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Just did some math for the assault rifles. (yes, this will be messy looking)
Weapon Dmg/20yrd Rds/K RPS TDD
aek-971    13.6    7.353    13.333    0.551
xm8    15.8    6.329    12.500    0.506
f2000    12.5    8.000    14.167    0.565
aug    15.8    6.329    11.667    0.542
an-94    19    5.263    10.000    0.526
m416    15.8    6.329    11.667    0.542
m16a2    13.9    7.194    13.333    0.540

To read this: weapon name, damage at 20 yards (avg distance of fight), hits required to kill at 20 yards, rounds per second fired by the weapon, and finally, the time it would take from pulling the trigger until death of opponent assuming all rounds hit.

So, there isn't a whole lot of difference between the weapons (4 hundredths of a second just isn't a big deal) but the XM8 does have the quickest kill time on paper. The weapon does have the highest recoil as well so that offsets it to a point. The M-16A2 has the lowest recoil but only middling kill speed. Personal preference is all that separates the weapons imo.

Looking at the same for LMGs...

pkm    14.3    6.993    10.833    0.646
m249    12.5    8.000    13.333    0.600
t88    12.5    8.000    10.833    0.738
m60    20    5.000    9.167    0.545
xm8 lmg    12.5    8.000    12.500    0.640
mg36    12.5    8.000    12.500    0.640
mg3    10    10.000    16.667    0.600

The M-60 is hands down the quickest by .055 seconds per kill. This is followed by the MG3 and M249 in quickness with the T88 being awful. This was done at ranges of 60 yards instead of 20 yards like I used with assault rifles.


And finally, the sub-machine guns.

09A-91    17.5    5.714    10.000    0.571
SCAR-L    17.5    5.714    10    0.571
XM8 C    15    6.667    12.5    0.533
AKS-74U    15    6.667    11.66666667    0.571
UZI    12.1    8.264    15    0.551
PP2000    12.1    8.264    16.66666667    0.496
UMP    17.5    5.714    10    0.571

The PP2000 blows everything else on all lists away with a stunning kill time of .496. This is followed by the XM8 C at .533. This list done at 20 yards.

Adjusting the LMGs down to 20 yards so that all numbers are even across the board...

pkm    16.5    6.061    10.833    0.559
m249    14.1    7.092    13.333    0.532
t88    14.1    7.092    10.833    0.655
m60    24.5    4.082    9.167    0.445
xm8 lmg    16.3    6.135    12.500    0.491
mg36    14.2    7.042    12.500    0.563
mg3    10    10.000    16.667    0.600

The M60 comes in as the king of the battlefield at a blistering .445 kill time. Even the XM8 LMG comes in at .491, beating out the PP2000's .496.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Just did some math for the assault rifles. (yes, this will be messy looking)
Weapon Dmg/20yrd Rds/K RPS TDD
aek-971    13.6    7.353    13.333    0.551
xm8    15.8    6.329    12.500    0.506
f2000    12.5    8.000    14.167    0.565
aug    15.8    6.329    11.667    0.542
an-94    19    5.263    10.000    0.526
m416    15.8    6.329    11.667    0.542
m16a2    13.9    7.194    13.333    0.540

To read this: weapon name, damage at 20 yards (avg distance of fight), hits required to kill at 20 yards, rounds per second fired by the weapon, and finally, the time it would take from pulling the trigger until death of opponent assuming all rounds hit.

So, there isn't a whole lot of difference between the weapons (4 hundredths of a second just isn't a big deal) but the XM8 does have the quickest kill time on paper. The weapon does have the highest recoil as well so that offsets it to a point. The M-16A2 has the lowest recoil but only middling kill speed. Personal preference is all that separates the weapons imo.

Looking at the same for LMGs...

pkm    14.3    6.993    10.833    0.646
m249    12.5    8.000    13.333    0.600
t88    12.5    8.000    10.833    0.738
m60    20    5.000    9.167    0.545
xm8 lmg    12.5    8.000    12.500    0.640
mg36    12.5    8.000    12.500    0.640
mg3    10    10.000    16.667    0.600

The M-60 is hands down the quickest by .055 seconds per kill. This is followed by the MG3 and M249 in quickness with the T88 being awful. This was done at ranges of 60 yards instead of 20 yards like I used with assault rifles.


And finally, the sub-machine guns.

09A-91    17.5    5.714    10.000    0.571
SCAR-L    17.5    5.714    10    0.571
XM8 C    15    6.667    12.5    0.533
AKS-74U    15    6.667    11.66666667    0.571
UZI    12.1    8.264    15    0.551
PP2000    12.1    8.264    16.66666667    0.496
UMP    17.5    5.714    10    0.571

The PP2000 blows everything else on all lists away with a stunning kill time of .496. This is followed by the XM8 C at .533. This list done at 20 yards.

Adjusting the LMGs down to 20 yards so that all numbers are even across the board...

pkm    16.5    6.061    10.833    0.559
m249    14.1    7.092    13.333    0.532
t88    14.1    7.092    10.833    0.655
m60    24.5    4.082    9.167    0.445
xm8 lmg    16.3    6.135    12.500    0.491
mg36    14.2    7.042    12.500    0.563
mg3    10    10.000    16.667    0.600

The M60 comes in as the king of the battlefield at a blistering .445 kill time. Even the XM8 LMG comes in at .491, beating out the PP2000's .496.

Those numbers are from the beta, all the guns do more damage now.

I thought the PP2000 was a rape gun. It has been serving me well, although the UMP is also not bad.

Assuming they were all increased the same amount.

SealXo wrote:

got my mg3

by the time youve seen me youve already been peppered with 30 rounds.

mwahah

my next quest will be assault for the m4 and then hopefully by then ive unlocked the m14

The M416 you mean? There's no m4

War Man wrote:

SealXo wrote:

got my mg3

by the time youve seen me youve already been peppered with 30 rounds.

mwahah

my next quest will be assault for the m4 and then hopefully by then ive unlocked the m14

The M416 you mean? There's no m4

This is weird and the crazier part of it is it looks like an M4 kinda, but it's German.

Rohirm wrote:

Lol I just realized I have more kills with my knife than with any one weapon

And Drill Kills=

So far I have unlocked everything except the Engineer stuff after the AT4. Anyone know if the UMP is any good?

UMP is pretty badass. Not sure it is better than the PP2000 though, which is the best engineer gun excluding the UMP by far. Worth trying it out, PP2000 is great at shorter ranges cause of the 40 round magazine.

As far as ROF goes, PP2000 wins hands down. It is also nice at long range. I feel it is superior overall to the AK-74U.

UMP I havent used a lot yet, because once I unlocked it I started on other classes :p

It is definitely a good gun. I would say it is quite similar to the AK-74U - less bullets, more damage per bullet, decent ROF. In situations against multiple opponents in say a house, PP2000 is best. But in general the UMP is probably stronger simply for the more damage per bullet and (I assume) higher accuracy as a result of not needing to spray as much.

War Man wrote:

SealXo wrote:

got my mg3

by the time youve seen me youve already been peppered with 30 rounds.

mwahah

my next quest will be assault for the m4 and then hopefully by then ive unlocked the m14

The M416 you mean? There's no m4

Stop being a pedantic faggot.

Wow.. check out this statement on Twitter

http://twitter.com/OfficialBFBC2/status/10170940186

Canin wrote:

globefish23 wrote:

Is it only me, or are those small windows on the static machine guns (the ones with a shield) almost completely opaque?
I can't see a thing through them, only slightly when firing and the muzzle flash makes it a bit transparent in the middle.
Is it some setting? Or maybe the fact that I'm on DX9 in Windows XP?

Also, when shooting those windows with bullets, there seems to be a shattered glass animation for a second, but the window instantly heals itself.

I know for sure that in the PC beta there were no windows at all, but just uncovered observation slits.

Yeah, I cant see through them either, not sure if its a dx9 thing or not though.

they're bugged at the moment afaik

hasnt been patched cause the server infrastructure is taking (rightful) no.1 priority.

it's a vehicle perk

Finray wrote:

War Man wrote:

SealXo wrote:

got my mg3

by the time youve seen me youve already been peppered with 30 rounds.

mwahah

my next quest will be assault for the m4 and then hopefully by then ive unlocked the m14

The M416 you mean? There's no m4

Stop being a pedantic faggot.

First off in real life it isn't called an M416.

Second off the M4 and M416 are 2 different guns that look similar but not quite the same. Unlike when I corrected someone who I corrected the name of the aek971 who only forgot the "e" in this case it is the mistake between 2 guns 1 of which isn't in the game so excuse me dickmouth.

Uzique wrote:

me and zeidmann just pwned a server

pr0

pwning in BC2?

i lawled irl