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Looks much better to have big cap netween green and red line than see them on top of each other.FloppY_ wrote:
That chart Nvidia uses to compare to its competitor is of a HD5870, not a HD5970.. suggesting they will market this as a competitor to the former...GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
HD 5970 sells for 600€ here, so they aren't exactly going for cheap either. We are talking about a card that is top of the line from NV afterall...FloppY_ wrote:
Knowing Nvidia.. It's a premium...
FAIL, yours is 101st...CammRobb wrote:
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Not if the green line is twice as expensiveGC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Looks much better to have big cap netween green and red line than see them on top of each other.FloppY_ wrote:
That chart Nvidia uses to compare to its competitor is of a HD5870, not a HD5970.. suggesting they will market this as a competitor to the former...GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
HD 5970 sells for 600€ here, so they aren't exactly going for cheap either. We are talking about a card that is top of the line from NV afterall...
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Mines is 101st postGC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Looks much better to have big cap netween green and red line than see them on top of each other.FloppY_ wrote:
That chart Nvidia uses to compare to its competitor is of a HD5870, not a HD5970.. suggesting they will market this as a competitor to the former...GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
HD 5970 sells for 600€ here, so they aren't exactly going for cheap either. We are talking about a card that is top of the line from NV afterall...FAIL, yours is 101st...CammRobb wrote:
100th reply
but 100th reply.
Anyway, on topic, is it looking likely that nVidia's DX11 cards are going to trump ATI's DX11 cards or should I just get a 58xx
58xx imoCammRobb wrote:
Mines is 101st postGC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Looks much better to have big cap netween green and red line than see them on top of each other.FloppY_ wrote:
That chart Nvidia uses to compare to its competitor is of a HD5870, not a HD5970.. suggesting they will market this as a competitor to the former...FAIL, yours is 101st...CammRobb wrote:
100th reply
but 100th reply.
Anyway, on topic, is it looking likely that nVidia's DX11 cards are going to trump ATI's DX11 cards or should I just get a 58xx
But if you can, you should wait... shortly after Nvidia releases theirs, ATi should drop their prices!
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
They probably will perform better, but at a large premium, the question is, are you willing to pay that premium for the boost in performance? Right now 2x5770 seems like a good option to me.CammRobb wrote:
Mines is 101st postGC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Looks much better to have big cap netween green and red line than see them on top of each other.FloppY_ wrote:
That chart Nvidia uses to compare to its competitor is of a HD5870, not a HD5970.. suggesting they will market this as a competitor to the former...FAIL, yours is 101st...CammRobb wrote:
100th reply
but 100th reply.
Anyway, on topic, is it looking likely that nVidia's DX11 cards are going to trump ATI's DX11 cards or should I just get a 58xx
Not sure how accurate Fudzilla is, but it's a guess anyway. Seem they think around €600 for the 480. But that can't be right(can it) if the 5970 is the same price but a better GPU =/
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17952/1/
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17952/1/
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Several places have pre-order for that price and yes it does seem odd. But if you read all the press around the fermi chips you will find out that their chip yields are extremely low and run extremely hot. This makes them extremely expensive.
Im not sure if they will actually sell at this ridiculous price point but that is something the Nvidia marketing team has to pull off. Maybe make physx seem more important than it actually is and brag about non-game number crunching speeds.
Im not sure if they will actually sell at this ridiculous price point but that is something the Nvidia marketing team has to pull off. Maybe make physx seem more important than it actually is and brag about non-game number crunching speeds.
They could come down in price a few days after release, I bet if the price was €800 people would buy it just for the fact it's Nvidia's new card.
Would love a 470 myself, even sli. But price has to be fair first.
Would love a 470 myself, even sli. But price has to be fair first.
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Practically everyone is expecting them to sell out on launch day, they simply wont be able to meet the demand. You are looking at late april before you get a sniff of them at reasonable prices.IrishGrimReaper wrote:
They could come down in price a few days after release, I bet if the price was €800 people would buy it just for the fact it's Nvidia's new card.
Would love a 470 myself, even sli. But price has to be fair first.
I myself was waiting on them, and I might still go for a 480 sli to go with the new dell 27'' I have my eye on. However from what we are hearing on the reported performance, dont have much faith personally. Nor do I think AMD will really need to drop the prices of the 5800 series cards. Although that said from the benchies we have seen so far, it appears the 400 series does pull a better minimum fps which is very important to me (more so than average to be honest).
Price could go either way, but for launch I dont expect to see any under £400 (480s).
Sigh*
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GeForce GTX 480 : 480 SP, 700/1401/1848MHz core/shader/mem, 384-bit, 1536MB, 250W TDP, US$499
GeForce GTX 470 : 448 SP, 607/1215/1674MHz core/shader/mem, 320-bit, 1280MB, 225W TDP, US$349
They dropped Cuda Core number to 480 but compensate the loss with higher than expected clocks for the GTX 480. And same time managed to drop TDP by healthy 50W, to only 25W higher than GTX470.
Source: Posted all over the interwebs, NDA lifts in a week and so we should know very soon wheter these are 100% correct.
GeForce GTX 470 : 448 SP, 607/1215/1674MHz core/shader/mem, 320-bit, 1280MB, 225W TDP, US$349
They dropped Cuda Core number to 480 but compensate the loss with higher than expected clocks for the GTX 480. And same time managed to drop TDP by healthy 50W, to only 25W higher than GTX470.
Source: Posted all over the interwebs, NDA lifts in a week and so we should know very soon wheter these are 100% correct.
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So the top Nvidia is just a bit higher than the 5870 in terms of price and the 470 only ~$10 above the 5850... What are the current rumors around the performance of the Nvidia cards? Roundabout the same as the ATi cards, iirc?
> AMD counterparts for sure, but no one really knows. Drivers are beta as well. HD 5870 has gone up in performance by what, >25% ? since the launch.CapnNismo wrote:
So the top Nvidia is just a bit higher than the 5870 in terms of price and the 470 only ~$10 above the 5850... What are the current rumors around the performance of the Nvidia cards? Roundabout the same as the ATi cards, iirc?
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Interesting. Well I guess we won't be seeing very much in the way of price cuts from ATi then. Maybe on the 5850, though. Just have to wait and see how the market fleshes itself out. I wonder if Nvidia will be able to supply demand. Doubt it...
Looks epic.
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So have they finally decided to stop putting stupid RPG characters and elves and crazy jap shit all over the video cards and shit these days, about fucking time
pretty sure ATI did that
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Mekstizzle wrote:
So have they finally decided to stop putting stupid RPG characters and elves and crazy jap shit all over the video cards and shit these days, about fucking time
Nope... The manurfacturers did that (e.g. ASUS, Sapphire, XFX, etc.), not ATi / Nvidia themselves...Uzique wrote:
pretty sure ATI did that
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
For now at leastMekstizzle wrote:
So have they finally decided to stop putting stupid RPG characters and elves and crazy jap shit all over the video cards and shit these days, about fucking time
Looks like it's literally packed and ready to burst with shit n' shit.
Thats alot of power needed for only a 5-10% performance increase over the 58** cards.Tomshardware wrote:
GeForce GTX 480 : 480 SP, 700/1401/1848MHz core/shader/mem, 384-bit, 1536MB, 295W TDP, US$499
GeForce GTX 470 : 448 SP, 607/1215/1674MHz core/shader/mem, 320-bit, 1280MB, 225W TDP, US$349
Internal benchmarks reveal that GeForce GTX 470 is some 5-10% faster than Radeon HD 5850 and similiar for GeForce GTX 480 over the Radeon HD 5870. Interestingly, the TDP of GeForce GTX 480 is almost similar to Radeon HD 5970 which is a dual GPU card. Interestingly, our sources revealed that there are indeed plans for dual Fermi cards and the TDP of the card is probably gonna be mind blowing.
Tbh, even though the performance doesn't seem hugely better. I gotta praise Nvidia for going for a completely new architecture. Fermi probably has alot more potential for better performance in future cards than what ATI can do.
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