Dr.PhiL
Danmark
+30|6928|Up North
Hello to whoever that can help me with this.

I just bought a new computer (or most of the parts, I kept my old HD)

And I had the guy in the store assemble it for me, but I forgot to format the HD which had vista 32bit on it.

Since I bought win7 64bit, the guy just installed it on top of vista.

So my question is: will there be anyway to remove vista (and everything thats installed under it) without formating the whole hd, and removing win7???


Thanks in advance for any kind of reply.
13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6756

no, not if both installations have finished. i'm surprised that it did - normally, win 7 would want to install into a separate directory from any previous OS install . . .
Dr.PhiL
Danmark
+30|6928|Up North
So just format the whole damn thing totally, and then install win7 again?
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6258|The Mitten
...Use partition software to 'delete' the old drive, then extend 7 onto it?
EE (hats
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6879|Mhz

Win7 wont ask you to format, it'll put your current installation of windows in a folder named windows.old on C: and carry on doing it's thing with a fresh install, you then just delete the windows.old folder when you've finished retrieving anything you need from it.
13urnzz
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+5,830|6756

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Win7 wont ask you to format,
ah, that's right - i did a dual boot with XP, and installed on a seperate drive. thanks
Dr.PhiL
Danmark
+30|6928|Up North
@TheEternalPessimist

Will that also delete the games/programs installed under it (from steam, and such?)

edit: to say it a little better, will it remove everything i had installed on vista?

Last edited by Dr.PhiL (2010-03-19 14:14:43)

TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6879|Mhz

It depends what option is chosen during setup, if you do an upgrade install it'll try to retain as many installed programs as it can (no idea how successful this is with Win7, I always do clean installs). 

If you do a fresh install it just bundles your current OS into a folder (just in case you forget to back something up) and continues to install from scratch, obviously this method removes all old programs and even though the files for these programs are in the windows.old folder they wont work, it's purpose is just for rescuing files from your previous installs.

EDIT: I would say upgrade installs from past experience (not with Win7 I'll admit) usually end up being messy to say the least, you get a lot of broken programs you then need to manually remove and basically the whole thing is a waste of space, I always got for a clean install and just reinstall what I use regularly, adds a couple of hours of work but, it's always worth it.

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2010-03-19 14:17:48)

CammRobb
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Surely it would just partition the drive to install W7, so just

Morpheus wrote:

...Use partition software to 'delete' the old drive, then extend 7 onto it?
Dr.PhiL
Danmark
+30|6928|Up North

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

It depends what option is chosen during setup, if you do an upgrade install it'll try to retain as many installed programs as it can (no idea how successful this is with Win7, I always do clean installs). 

If you do a fresh install it just bundles your current OS into a folder (just in case you forget to back something up) and continues to install from scratch, obviously this method removes all old programs and even though the files for these programs are in the windows.old folder they wont work, it's purpose is just for rescuing files from your previous installs.

EDIT: I would say upgrade installs from past experience (not with Win7 I'll admit) usually end up being messy to say the least, you get a lot of broken programs you then need to manually remove and basically the whole thing is a waste of space, I always got for a clean install and just reinstall what I use regularly, adds a couple of hours of work but, it's always worth it.
Yeah but from what I can see at space remaing on the HD, it seems like everything installed under vista is still there
(unless win7 takes up a 150gb of space).

But anyways il just format the whole thing, then Im sure its all gone.


Thanks for all the replies, much appreciated.
(as always quality help)

Last edited by Dr.PhiL (2010-03-19 14:27:47)

TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6879|Mhz

Like I said you'll probably find your old Vista install still packed in there in the windows.old folder on the root of C:  If you don't need anything from it, just delete the folder, it's probably 90GB+ if you've got 150GB taken up with a new Win7 install, that should sort you out. 

Win7 installs can be hefty (nothing close to what yours is) mainly due to the winsxs folder but, that's useful so don't get rid of that one lol.

EDIT: Don't just reinstall Win7, then you'll have vista AND win7 packed in your windows.old folder and even more space taken up lol.

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2010-03-19 14:30:19)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6840|SE London

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Like I said you'll probably find your old Vista install still packed in there in the windows.old folder on the root of C:  If you don't need anything from it, just delete the folder, it's probably 90GB+ if you've got 150GB taken up with a new Win7 install, that should sort you out. 

Win7 installs can be hefty (nothing close to what yours is) mainly due to the winsxs folder but, that's useful so don't get rid of that one lol.

EDIT: Don't just reinstall Win7, then you'll have vista AND win7 packed in your windows.old folder and even more space taken up lol.
90GB+?

My install of Win7 Ultimate isn't even approaching that. In fact, my system disk hasn't got 90GB used on it and that's with OS, applications and several hefty games (Dragon Age, Empire TW, Crysis etc) on it.

Win7 installs are ~15GB.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6879|Mhz

Read again mate, I said his old Vista install (ie the windows.old folder i have repeatedly mentioned) is about 90gig (and to be honest thats being conservative as as you said, Win7 isn't that big), as in Vista and his god knows how many years worth of programs and turd in there.

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2010-03-19 17:23:33)

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