blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7053
Inspired by popular video games like World of Warcraft, an Indiana University professor is applying game design principles such as clear, well-defined goals and gradual, incremental rewards to his college classes. A hit with students, the approach has some employers showing interest, too.

Students at several of Indiana University's game design courses begin their class with zero "experience points," which corresponds to an F grade. Instead of completing presentations, they'll perform "quests;" sitting exams becomes "fighting monsters;" and handing in assignments becomes "crafting." Students even team up into "guilds" to tackle group projects.

Setting assessments in the context of video game achievements helps students get motivated, according to the courses' coordinator, Indiana University's Lee Sheldon.

"The elements of the class are couched in terms they understand, terms that are associated with fun rather than education," he told iTnews. "We are teaching the gamer, social networking generation."

Sheldon reports his students are showing far greater enthusiasm than with old-style assessment methods. He's convinced employers can improve staff performance with similar tactics -- and his message is hitting home with at least one CEO, according to iTnews.

Distribution firm Express Data, one of Australia and New Zealand's top employers, and renowned for its highly engaged employees, finds staff perform better once they're given clear expectations and plenty of feedback -- not so very different from the way many games organize their quests and update players on their progress.

"If you had a game of ten pin bowling and you put the pins behind a curtain and told people to bowl," Express Data's Ross Cochrane told iTnews, "then it doesn't become much of a game, and...they tend not to get the best outcomes. You need to provide very clear feedback."

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Anyways would be cool if they tested out this type of system with other games.... for other classes.... for example ebug is a networking major..  they should develop a game kind of like bf2 or bfbc2 where you can play online but ebug would play as a shooter/network IT guy so he would virtually fix stuff up for guys within the game while others cover him....he would occasionally shoot 2... that way he would learn stuff about security but also have fun with it....
Marlo Stanfield
online poker tax cheating
+122|5570
Wow talk about lowering standards and expectations.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7057

That's the gayest thing I've ever heard.
Metal-Eater-GR
I can haz titanium paancakez?
+490|6680
Do you get to choose class at the beggining?
Benzin
Member
+576|6406
Pretty lame. There are much simpler ways of providing progress reports and feedback to employees...
whaaaaaaaaaat
><>
+215|5658

Marlo Stanfield wrote:

Wow talk about lowering standards and expectations.
pun intended?
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|7099|Devon, England
I like it, but...

blademaster wrote:

...

Sheldon reports his students are showing far greater enthusiasm than with old-style assessment methods. He's convinced employers can improve staff performance with similar tactics -- and his message is hitting home with at least one CEO, according to iTnews.

...
.. Sheldon XD
Commie Killer
Member
+192|6795

ghettoperson wrote:

That's the gayest thing I've ever heard.
I can't QTF this enough.
SEREVENT
MASSIVE G STAR
+605|6515|Birmingham, UK

whaaaaaaaaaat wrote:

Marlo Stanfield wrote:

Wow talk about lowering standards and expectations.
pun intended?
lol thats what i thought
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5766|London, England

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

Do you get to choose class at the beggining?
I call Druid class!!!!!





"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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eleven bravo
Member
+1,399|5667|foggy bottom
its not like these fuckers are going to medical school
Tu Stultus Es
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,055|7030|Little Bentcock

blademaster wrote:

Anyways would be cool if they tested out this type of system with other games.... for other classes.... for example ebug is a networking major..  they should develop a game kind of like bf2 or bfbc2 where you can play online but ebug would play as a shooter/network IT guy so he would virtually fix stuff up for guys within the game while others cover him....he would occasionally shoot 2... that way he would learn stuff about security but also have fun with it....
wut
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6933|South Florida
High five to the teacher. This is the next level of teaching, appealing to the interests of your class is the way you succeed as a teacher
15 more years! 15 more years!
jord
Member
+2,382|7086|The North, beyond the wall.
Do they get to do repetitive tasks for hours upon hours for the sake of it...
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7092|United States of America

eleven bravo wrote:

its not like these fuckers are going to medical school
IU does have a medical school, but as you astutely observed, this is just for the nerds studying video game design.

I honestly don't see how this is different though, they're just changing the names of exams to quests and it's supposed to motivate these kids? Unless they're hopelessly addicted and out of touch with reality, I don't see it having a very big impact.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5766|London, England

jord wrote:

Do they get to do repetitive tasks for hours upon hours for the sake of it...
Farming for epicz!
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
rdx-fx
...
+955|6999

DesertFox- wrote:

Unless they're hopelessly addicted and out of touch with reality, I don't see it having a very big impact.
They're going to college for video game design.

Of course they're out of touch with reality.

Video Game Design - a degree that exists just to make Philosophy, Acting, and Liberal Arts majors feel better about themselves.
El Beardo
steel woolly mammoth
+150|6128|Gulf Coast

JohnG@lt wrote:

jord wrote:

Do they get to do repetitive tasks for hours upon hours for the sake of it...
Farming for epicz!
Live to win!
Shadow893
lel
+75|7100|England

Adams_BJ wrote:

blademaster wrote:

Anyways would be cool if they tested out this type of system with other games.... for other classes.... for example ebug is a networking major..  they should develop a game kind of like bf2 or bfbc2 where you can play online but ebug would play as a shooter/network IT guy so he would virtually fix stuff up for guys within the game while others cover him....he would occasionally shoot 2... that way he would learn stuff about security but also have fun with it....
wut
yeah... wut?
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|7073|NT, like Mick Dundee

rdx-fx wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

Unless they're hopelessly addicted and out of touch with reality, I don't see it having a very big impact.
They're going to college for video game design.

Of course they're out of touch with reality.

Video Game Design - a degree that exists just to make Philosophy, Acting, and Liberal Arts majors feel better about themselves.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|7062

Exp for grades doesn't make sense. However, if you substituted exp for units, and substituted freshman/soph/junior/senior for levels, and degrees for powerups...



It would still be fucking stupid.
Benzin
Member
+576|6406

rdx-fx wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

Unless they're hopelessly addicted and out of touch with reality, I don't see it having a very big impact.
They're going to college for video game design.

Of course they're out of touch with reality.

Video Game Design - a degree that exists just to make Philosophy, Acting, and Liberal Arts majors feel better about themselves.
+1
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6975|NYC / Hamburg

I'm a Level 80 Physicist.
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
rdx-fx
...
+955|6999

max wrote:

I'm a Level 80 Physicist.
Which spec though? Theoretical, Experimental, or Engineering/Applied?
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6975|NYC / Hamburg

Experimental
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.

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