pace51
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Real world facts about the Sukhoi Su-37 Super Flanker

Maiden Flight: June 28, 1988
Power: Dual Lyulka AL-31M Turbofans
Armament: 1 30mm cannon and 14 hardpoints that can accommodate various weapon combinations and drop tanks up to 6000 Kg’s.
Maximum Speed: 2500 Kph
Range: 4000 Km
Country of Origin: USSR Commisioned, Russian Operated
Manufacturer: Sukhoi

     The Sukhoi SU-37 is a brilliant but hard hitting Russian dogfighter. Don’t let its massive size fool you, it has the dogfighting capabilities of a Mig-21 with better agility and a powerful 30mm cannon. In fact, the Russian designer challenged any American aircraft to a mock-up dogfight, literally saying “Any time, any place”. He wasn’t kidding either. Those two bizarre looking fins on either side of the cokpit are canards. They give an aircraft absolutely incredible agility, meaning the SU-37 Super Flanker can literally Super Flank you. It can out maneuver enemy aircraft, flank them, get beside them and down them with the 30mm.

     It was an improvement upon Sukhoi’s also potent SU-27 Flanker. However, the SU-35/37 is basically a giant Flanker. It has increased thrust, better fuel consumption, better thrust vectoring, and although the canards are the same, there was a brilliant computerized fly-by-wire system. It allowed the aircraft to analyze and respond to outside conditions. Sukhoi got bad publicity after a tragic accident when on of their SU-27’s or perhaps Su-37’s lost control at a public airshow. The aircraft was performing a standard barrel roll, but the pilot’s controls jammed. The pilot swerved to a low altitude, and was barely able to control his aircraft. He finally hit telephone wires and the aircraft rammed right into the middle of the crowd, killing hundreds.

     It carries a beautiful Phazotron radar which gives it even better radar capabilities than it’s cousin, the SU-27 flanker. At another airshow, Sukhoi’s brilliant test pilot Frolov put the SU-37 through totally lethal(Dangerous=Fun) maneuvers. I don’t think that you quite understand what I mean by lethal. Google the 1996 Farnbourough airshow. The pilot literally flipped the jet upside down on its back, so that it was facing the opposite direction it was flying in. Upside down. He did this for two seconds, which is a huge accomplishment. He then successfully did a 360 and righted the aircraft while ground crew supplied toilet paper to the fans who were busy soiling their pants and muttering “Comrade, Holy crap” to each other.
Flecco
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Just a quick question...


What other kind of fact is there other than a real world fact? Can you get say, a false world fact? Or an unreal world fact? A false fact?
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
RAIMIUS
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Ok, you pulled a couple facts from the manufacturer or fas.org, then did a commentary that seems like it was written for a middle school crowd.  Should we be impressed?

"Flanker" is the NATO designation.  Much like the MiG-15 was the "Fagot."  The name has nothing to do with its capabilities.  The SU-27 has no canards.  The MiG-21 is a terrible dogfighter, since it was designed to be a Mach 2 interceptor with limited maneuverability.  If you are going to present analysis of capabilities, do some fact checking.
-Sh1fty-
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+510|5881|Ventura, California
So it can dogfight an American CAS plane. Woop dee doo, that's not what it's made for.

Stupid Russians

A10 does the job it's designed for perfectly. I dare any Russian plane to match that thing.

Last edited by -Sh1fty- (2010-03-31 09:16:56)

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13/f/taiwan
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dude do you actually know anything about aircrafts? because it seems that you are just copy+pasting from wikipedia then changing some of the words around.
Surgeons
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

So it can dogfight an American play. Woop dee doo, that's not what it's made for.

Stupid Russians

A10 does the job it's designed for perfectly. I dare any Russian plane to match that thing.
Umm, the mig on bf2 was much better than the f35 so there goes your theory lol..
13/f/taiwan
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The Sheriff wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

So it can dogfight an American play. Woop dee doo, that's not what it's made for.

Stupid Russians

A10 does the job it's designed for perfectly. I dare any Russian plane to match that thing.
Umm, the mig on bf2 was much better than the f35 so there goes your theory lol..
can't beat that point^^^
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5881|Ventura, California

The Sheriff wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

So it can dogfight an American play. Woop dee doo, that's not what it's made for.

Stupid Russians

A10 does the job it's designed for perfectly. I dare any Russian plane to match that thing.
Umm, the mig on bf2 was much better than the f35 so there goes your theory lol..
Because you didn't know how to fly it like a real pilot.

Anybody who knows his deal in the F35B can beat a J10 or a gay MiG.

For the record, my favorite plane in BF2 was a close tie between the MiG 29 and the F18c.
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cl4u53w1t2
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bashing russia is just so the 80s
11 Bravo
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cl4u53w1t2 wrote:

bashing russia is just so the 80s
bash germany instead
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
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I could beat guys who were in the Migs whilst in the F35, but I could shoot down F35's whilst in the Mig easier.

That can only mean that the Mig > F35
cl4u53w1t2
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11 Bravo wrote:

cl4u53w1t2 wrote:

bashing russia is just so the 80s
bash germany instead
bashing germany is just so the 40s
Surgeons
U shud proabbly f off u fat prik
+3,097|6897|Gogledd Cymru

Shadow893 wrote:

lol and why isn't this getting closed?
Why would it, his guides are good, better than all the "bandrooz threads" which get closed instantly.
-Sh1fty-
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The Sheriff wrote:

I could beat guys who were in the Migs whilst in the F35, but I could shoot down F35's whilst in the Mig easier.

That can only mean that the Mig > F35
You could fly at 600-800m and avoid anything.

Just drop down when a plane was spotted and kick it's arse with MG fire.
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Ioan92
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Can someone post that simulation that showed that simple MiG-29's would rape the JSF in the ass?

Spoiler (highlight to read):
just so shitty can stfu
11 Bravo
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The Sheriff wrote:

Why would it, his guides are good
lolwut?  landing at mach 1.3?  umad
seymorebutts443
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Ioan92 wrote:

Can someone post that simulation that showed that simple MiG-29's would rape the JSF in the ass?

Spoiler (highlight to read):
just so shitty can stfu
you could have someone mod LOMAC or something.
Also, it depends on the pilot most of the time and not the plane. Therefore you both are arguing about hunks of metal that cannot do shit without a puppet master sitting in them and pulling their strings.
Ioan92
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seymorebutts443 wrote:

Ioan92 wrote:

Can someone post that simulation that showed that simple MiG-29's would rape the JSF in the ass?

Spoiler (highlight to read):
just so shitty can stfu
you could have someone mod LOMAC or something.
Also, it depends on the pilot most of the time and not the plane. Therefore you both are arguing about hunks of metal that cannot do shit without a puppet master sitting in them and pulling their strings.
Nah it was an actual study taking two equally skilled pilots, one in the JSF and one in the MiG. It said that the MiG had more maneuverability or something.

It was an American study btw.
seymorebutts443
Ready for combat
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Ioan92 wrote:

seymorebutts443 wrote:

Ioan92 wrote:

Can someone post that simulation that showed that simple MiG-29's would rape the JSF in the ass?

Spoiler (highlight to read):
just so shitty can stfu
you could have someone mod LOMAC or something.
Also, it depends on the pilot most of the time and not the plane. Therefore you both are arguing about hunks of metal that cannot do shit without a puppet master sitting in them and pulling their strings.
Nah it was an actual study taking two equally skilled pilots, one in the JSF and one in the MiG. It said that the MiG had more maneuverability or something.

It was an American study btw.
MiGs are crazy aircraft, i wouldn't doubt one being able to take down a JSF or two.
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
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Well, that would require the MiG being able to target the F-35, which might cause some problems for the MiG driver.  Basically, the MiG pilot would have to get the jump on the F-35 pilot.  The F-35 has a very small RCS from the front.

There have been multiple cases where F-15 pilots could visually see F-22s, but couldn't get a lock.  Expect similar things in this case.
13/f/taiwan
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cl4u53w1t2 wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

cl4u53w1t2 wrote:

bashing russia is just so the 80s
bash germany instead
bashing germany is just so the 40s
it's all about bashing muslims these days.
bennisboy
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Please just stop!

Go make a blog ffs.

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