joker8baller
Member
+68|7138
Well much to my surprise that the last patch or the one before it removed one of the fields of the shotgun. It now does less damage in a wider cone.
What does this mean?
It means that the shotgun has a low chance of killing but a high chance of doing damage, from even farther away. The shotgun animations are unchanged, but the cone on the shotgun was widened about 12 degrees. The problem with the widening is that they never spread the damage scores. In other words u will have to be under a meter pointing exactly at a persons head to kill them. So all of you who use the Dao-12, better find a new strategy.


uhhh.. shirosam, that was kind of my point. It has a new feel. IT can damage from farther away, but deals just as much damage (maybe a little more) from close up.

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What I'm basically saying in response is that these files ARE NOT USED by BF 2 ANYMORE because of the /unlocks folder, and that you could use the weapons in single player unlocks, without even having them unloccked. This ENTIRE  folder is no longer used because of this. Anyone can elaborate.

Last edited by joker8baller (2006-04-26 19:38:12)

FesterTheMolester
BF2s US Server Admin, IRC>Forums
+157|7111|The Mind Of A Cereal Killer
wtf?

i do not understand what you are saying at all, who or waht is shirosham??

please condense and summarize in a response
joker8baller
Member
+68|7138
Basically he's saying It means that the shotgun has a low chance of killing but a high chance of doing damage, from even farther away. The shotgun animations are unchanged, but the cone on the shotgun was widened about 12 degrees. The problem with the widening is that they never spread the damage scores. In other words u will have to be under a meter pointing exactly at a persons head to kill them.

He  believes the shotgun now has the acuracy of the pistol and the range of the rifle. The change means bad things for those who rely on high damage in close quaters.

They are straight, have decent range, and still make a large hole. Im trying to say they toned down the close combat damage of the shotgun, unless you have a good shot (we all have them) and hit them sqaure in the head or chest, you will not kill them in one hit.

He thinks the shotgun is like a rifle that shoots  something like Stoner bullets. And that it doesn't have a close combat range to be able to kill UNLESS you hit the chest or head...

I believe that this is ACCURATE and this is the WAY IT SHOULD BE ><

Also, he found this in a DATA File... That was discontinued, and is no longer in use by EA. Remember how we used to be able to use Multiplayer unlocks in single player? Remember how those files are no longer used by EA, because it is easy to exploit/change stuff?  THis was part of it...

but deals just as much damage (maybe a little more) from close up.
Not true right?

Anyways, the SHOTGUN should NOT be able to kill if you don't hit a major body part aka Chest or Head. And it never did have more damage, it was based on the "bullets" it shot, the more it hit ya the more it hurts ya... But you should only be able to kill with shottie with HEAD OR CHEST. NOTHING ELSE CORRECT? It deals more damage close up... than rather far away.
beerface702
Member
+65|7164|las vegas
people who talk to themsleves are funny
joker8baller
Member
+68|7138
Basically what's he's trying to say is that He thinks EA changed the shotgun so it doesn't spread out. AKA it hurts just as much from long distance than from close range... Through a DATA file, that isn't used anymore because of exploits via the 1.12 patches.
Cyberwolf
Banned
+14|7163
Some people like to hear themselves talk.

1) I doubt many people care
2) You could have easily explained that in about 4-6 lines rather than 4-6 paragraphs. Most people stop reading after the first few lines anyways!
kessel!
Peruvian Cocaine
+261|7236|Toronto Canada
does it really matter? not trying to be a bitch, but does anyone actually care?
joker8baller
Member
+68|7138
Eh.... I was kinda pissed off >< But yea... If EA did change the shotgun, dontcha think yall should know? + I need response from people who actually know, because he doesn't believe what I'm saying..
deject
Got His War On
+37|7245|Golden, CO

joker8baller wrote:

Eh.... I was kinda pissed off >< But yea... If EA did change the shotgun, dontcha think yall should know? + I need response from people who actually know, because he doesn't believe what I'm saying..
How about using the internet standard of calling him a dumbass?  Even using rifled slugs a shotgun's effective range is only about 75-100m.  Using shot can have varying effectiveness, with 00 buckshot being the most effective at range.  Now shot patterns can be quite small, depending on the shell and the shotgun itself so you can't say that it spreads everywhere, but it sure as hell isn't like a rifle.  Anyone who says that has no concept of firearms.

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