can anyone tell me what the best and cheapist gameing computer out is, before anyone says anything yes i know building one is cheaper but i dont like it to much os a hassel for me im kinda a noob when it come to bulidng computers. so help best and cheapiest gameing rig
not alienware , to expensive. And i heard ibuy has some problems.
Ok for a vga. I say the 7900GT , best bang for your buck.
you can also wait for the conroe which is gonna be cheap and good.
Ram, go for 2 gigs.
Sound: Xfi or Audigy 2
HD: IF your a gaming fanatic, get a raptor or a raided 0 hd setup.
Speakers: hmm ill get back to this.
If you want a better list wait for sixshot or unknownnewbie to reply, im at work and i got to finish stuff sorry.
Ok for a vga. I say the 7900GT , best bang for your buck.
you can also wait for the conroe which is gonna be cheap and good.
Ram, go for 2 gigs.
Sound: Xfi or Audigy 2
HD: IF your a gaming fanatic, get a raptor or a raided 0 hd setup.
Speakers: hmm ill get back to this.
If you want a better list wait for sixshot or unknownnewbie to reply, im at work and i got to finish stuff sorry.
Dude, most of the time when people say build one yourself, they mean get a whitebox or unbranded pc. you dont actually build it, just choose the components (and so still have warranties). Most places have packages aswell, good if your not savvy about the parts you want. In my experience this will save you a good deal of cash. I would never buy a branded computer, but some people like to buy from BIG companies.
They pay for it.
They pay for it.
You can get a great gaming comp if you build it yourself, and you don't need to be experienced. There are many tutorials, and I can personally help you with alot of the building aspect.
My made-in-2-mins-list.
CPU: AMD Athlon 3500+ Good performance, not bad price.
Mobo: Can't do alot now, but an ASUS nForce chipset mobo will do well. PCI-E will also do well.
RAM: I got 2 gigs of Corsair XMS for $180. Very good price for performance.
Hard Drives: Atleast 80GB. WD Raptor is good, and RAID 0 helps alot less then most people think, if at all, especially in gaming. I also recomend an atleast 20gb backup drive.
Videocard: nVidia 6800GS. Comparable to top-of-the-line videocards, and even better in some respects.
Soundcard: I'm thinking an Audigy ZS, or x-Fi Xtreme Music.
PSU: Thermaltake 550W ATX2.0. Quiet, AND SHINY!
Case: Up to you're likes in looks. I've got a Thermaltake Tsunami and love it. Good looks, very quiet.
If you're still determined to buy prebuilt, I can't help you. The only good gaming companies are Falcon Northwest and VooDoo (alienware is overpriced, and got bought out by Dell), and those are insanely expensive.
My made-in-2-mins-list.
CPU: AMD Athlon 3500+ Good performance, not bad price.
Mobo: Can't do alot now, but an ASUS nForce chipset mobo will do well. PCI-E will also do well.
RAM: I got 2 gigs of Corsair XMS for $180. Very good price for performance.
Hard Drives: Atleast 80GB. WD Raptor is good, and RAID 0 helps alot less then most people think, if at all, especially in gaming. I also recomend an atleast 20gb backup drive.
Videocard: nVidia 6800GS. Comparable to top-of-the-line videocards, and even better in some respects.
Soundcard: I'm thinking an Audigy ZS, or x-Fi Xtreme Music.
PSU: Thermaltake 550W ATX2.0. Quiet, AND SHINY!
Case: Up to you're likes in looks. I've got a Thermaltake Tsunami and love it. Good looks, very quiet.
If you're still determined to buy prebuilt, I can't help you. The only good gaming companies are Falcon Northwest and VooDoo (alienware is overpriced, and got bought out by Dell), and those are insanely expensive.
Precisely what I did, built my own. Fearful at first, but far easier than one would assume, and undoubtedly the best bang for the buck.Defiance wrote:
You can get a great gaming comp if you build it yourself, and you don't need to be experienced. There are many tutorials, and I can personally help you with alot of the building aspect.
My made-in-2-mins-list.
CPU: AMD Athlon 3500+ Good performance, not bad price.
Mobo: Can't do alot now, but an ASUS nForce chipset mobo will do well. PCI-E will also do well.
RAM: I got 2 gigs of Corsair XMS for $180. Very good price for performance.
Hard Drives: Atleast 80GB. WD Raptor is good, and RAID 0 helps alot less then most people think, if at all, especially in gaming. I also recomend an atleast 20gb backup drive.
Videocard: nVidia 6800GS. Comparable to top-of-the-line videocards, and even better in some respects.
Soundcard: I'm thinking an Audigy ZS, or x-Fi Xtreme Music.
PSU: Thermaltake 550W ATX2.0. Quiet, AND SHINY!
Case: Up to you're likes in looks. I've got a Thermaltake Tsunami and love it. Good looks, very quiet.
If you're still determined to buy prebuilt, I can't help you. The only good gaming companies are Falcon Northwest and VooDoo (alienware is overpriced, and got bought out by Dell), and those are insanely expensive.
Last edited by mp30 (2006-04-27 19:52:57)
fine fine, to original poster, but the parts together on the Mb and ur done. If you need help just leave a post and a ton of people will be glad to help you with ....well the stuffdavblos wrote:
Dude, most of the time when people say build one yourself, they mean get a whitebox or unbranded pc. you dont actually build it, just choose the components (and so still have warranties). Most places have packages aswell, good if your not savvy about the parts you want. In my experience this will save you a good deal of cash. I would never buy a branded computer, but some people like to buy from BIG companies.
They pay for it.
Nitpicking... "best and cheapest gaming computer" is bordering oxymoron.FubarJonny wrote:
can anyone tell me what the best and cheapist gameing computer out is, before anyone says anything yes i know building one is cheaper but i dont like it to much os a hassel for me im kinda a noob when it come to bulidng computers. so help best and cheapiest gameing rig
If you desire something that'll suit your needs, the first thing we need is a budget estimate. From there we can try to give you a rough guess given the scenerio. A custom built system is a good option to take since you're not going to be building the system yourself. Check for any local computer shops and determine whether or not they can assemble a custom system for you. Weigh in the price that goes with it and then compare them with the parts available online. Weigh in the price difference and see if it's worth the extra cash since the local shops get their stuff from different distributors or warehouses. The price they use on a per-component basis will give you a rough idea how much they're making off of the item as well as labor costs.
For any gaming rig, you'll need to gauge on what you need from a system. Low-end, mid-range, high-end, or in between any of the two, they all fall within a pricerage. The more you want out of a gaming rig, the more you'll end up spending.
Believe it or not, working with computer hardware is worlds easier than tinkering with car radios and tape decks. Every now and then, I buy a new edition of this book to keep myself updated on stuff I might have missed over the years:
Scott Mueller's Upgrading and Repairing PCs (17th Edition)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/078973 … oding=UTF8
The book is uncannily simple, straightforward and easy to understand. It covers an insane amount of material without being too verbose. Not much else to say other than buy it.
Scott Mueller's Upgrading and Repairing PCs (17th Edition)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/078973 … oding=UTF8
The book is uncannily simple, straightforward and easy to understand. It covers an insane amount of material without being too verbose. Not much else to say other than buy it.
Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-04-28 00:41:59)
no, not really. when people say build it yourself, they refer to buying each component by themselves and then putting together the pc.davblos wrote:
Dude, most of the time when people say build one yourself, they mean get a whitebox or unbranded pc. you dont actually build it, just choose the components (and so still have warranties). Most places have packages aswell, good if your not savvy about the parts you want. In my experience this will save you a good deal of cash. I would never buy a branded computer, but some people like to buy from BIG companies.
They pay for it.
janus67 is right, when ppl refer to build a pc, they do mean choosing components and put it together. building a pc is easy, if a 12yr old kid next door can do it, so can u. there are lots of guides on the internet. if i was going bang for the buck in july... thenJanus67 wrote:
no, not really. when people say build it yourself, they refer to buying each component by themselves and then putting together the pc.davblos wrote:
Dude, most of the time when people say build one yourself, they mean get a whitebox or unbranded pc. you dont actually build it, just choose the components (and so still have warranties). Most places have packages aswell, good if your not savvy about the parts you want. In my experience this will save you a good deal of cash. I would never buy a branded computer, but some people like to buy from BIG companies.
They pay for it.
intel 965g chipset
conroe 1.8ghz
2gb of ram
7900gt
tuniq heatsink for overclocking
vf900cu for overclocking
160gb hdd
GATEWAY BLOWS!
GATEWAY BLOWS!
GATEWAY BLOWS!
I can't stress it enough that a Macintosh would run BF2 better then any Gateway. And Macintosh doesn't run BF2!!!!
GATEWAY BLOWS!
GATEWAY BLOWS!
I can't stress it enough that a Macintosh would run BF2 better then any Gateway. And Macintosh doesn't run BF2!!!!
rofl +1 for you tnt
you too unnamednewbie13, i've been loking for a book liek that for so long! thanks
you too unnamednewbie13, i've been loking for a book liek that for so long! thanks
Best and cheapest do not belong in the same sentance. If your going to get for a pre built rig you will have to shell out a few thousand min.
Some guy got a alienware computer on here and paid 4k for it. I have pretty much the exact same setup for half the price (Yes I built it myself).
Another option is buying the parts yourself and having a local computer shop put it together for you. Call around and get qoutes, prices per hour,etc. You will still save a lot doing it that way.
Just have them put it together, then you can put your OS, windows updates, etc on it.
You will get more for your buck.
If I absoulutly had to buy a pre built computer, I wouldn't go with anything but alienware. When you buy a gateway, dell, etc. They load the comps up with tons of bs software that you will never need, cannot uninstall, and will slow your comp down.
Good luck.
Some guy got a alienware computer on here and paid 4k for it. I have pretty much the exact same setup for half the price (Yes I built it myself).
Another option is buying the parts yourself and having a local computer shop put it together for you. Call around and get qoutes, prices per hour,etc. You will still save a lot doing it that way.
Just have them put it together, then you can put your OS, windows updates, etc on it.
You will get more for your buck.
If I absoulutly had to buy a pre built computer, I wouldn't go with anything but alienware. When you buy a gateway, dell, etc. They load the comps up with tons of bs software that you will never need, cannot uninstall, and will slow your comp down.
Good luck.
Fubar,
(sorry, i'll try to keep it short)
I spent 2 years working in a mom and pop retail computer store. So I know building, repairing, upgrading, troubleshooting. After that I went off to do desktop support, LAN admin, etc for corporate america (last 12 years, man I'm getting old). (history lesson over)
#1 I do recommend you buy the parts and put them together yourself. I'm a super price shopper at this point and I can tell you that if you watch for deals you can assemble a SCREAMER for very little money. If you're worried about never having done it before, don't. It's about as complicated as playing with legos. That said if you want to start "price shopping" head over to fatwallet (or your favorite deal king website) and start looking for the parts you want.
#2 If you are still determined to buy an assembled PC, then pick up a couple PC mags and see what's offered. Prices change month to month. Out of all the "big boys" I can tell you that Dell makes a nice machine, so does IBM. IBM = too expensive though and you can get SUPER Deals on Dells, they seem to be running new specials every other day.
(sorry, i'll try to keep it short)
I spent 2 years working in a mom and pop retail computer store. So I know building, repairing, upgrading, troubleshooting. After that I went off to do desktop support, LAN admin, etc for corporate america (last 12 years, man I'm getting old). (history lesson over)
#1 I do recommend you buy the parts and put them together yourself. I'm a super price shopper at this point and I can tell you that if you watch for deals you can assemble a SCREAMER for very little money. If you're worried about never having done it before, don't. It's about as complicated as playing with legos. That said if you want to start "price shopping" head over to fatwallet (or your favorite deal king website) and start looking for the parts you want.
#2 If you are still determined to buy an assembled PC, then pick up a couple PC mags and see what's offered. Prices change month to month. Out of all the "big boys" I can tell you that Dell makes a nice machine, so does IBM. IBM = too expensive though and you can get SUPER Deals on Dells, they seem to be running new specials every other day.
Just stick with Dell, in your case. Cheaper than Alienware, and believe it or not, some of their systems can pack a punch.
Last edited by jnick (2006-04-29 11:05:49)
I'm on a E-Machine right now and it plays BF2 perfectly. Just get a really good Media Center E-Machine, and stick a good graphics card in it. Boom you got an awesome computer (and it isn't expensive).
Last edited by Fuzzball_the_Shooter (2006-04-29 10:51:41)
You know, I was going to say e-Machines, as my friend has one and it's a ROCK solid desktop. However, I never used, nor seen people use them for gaming.
I would say, if they have PCI-e boards, e-Machines is a great choice.
I would say, if they have PCI-e boards, e-Machines is a great choice.
If you get a dell, i will cry. I work with those god awful machines all day. Trying to get replacement parts is the biggest pain in my ass.
I say, build it yourself. As said before, it is not that hard.
And why are people recomending conroes? Unless you want to wait tull q3 of this year, that aint gonna happen.
I say, build it yourself. As said before, it is not that hard.
And why are people recomending conroes? Unless you want to wait tull q3 of this year, that aint gonna happen.
Stay away from GATEWAY, DELL and TIME. I used to fix pc's for a livin and the big companies on paper say the pc has a great spec. The reality is, you get the good CPU as advertised but the 1gb of ram is rubish, HD is noisy and takes longer to access the older it gets and the MOBO is allways a bunch of crap with onboard sound, modem,coffe maker etc.. GATEWAY DELL ETC usually work really well for the first year of so, but the components are usually so cheap they tend to degrade over time and the pc will slowdown.
This website has everything you need to build your own www.buildyourown.org.uk just think, when you are finished you can put on tour CV. "Experence in building and repairing computers." Thats what I did and ended up getting a job in the field and getting shit loads of training.....then left. Even though I used to be one, after a few months I wanted to put a bullet in "The typical end user"
This website has everything you need to build your own www.buildyourown.org.uk just think, when you are finished you can put on tour CV. "Experence in building and repairing computers." Thats what I did and ended up getting a job in the field and getting shit loads of training.....then left. Even though I used to be one, after a few months I wanted to put a bullet in "The typical end user"
Last edited by JahManRed (2006-04-29 11:26:04)
conroe is coming out in july, and thats like what? 2 months?Snipedya14 wrote:
If you get a dell, i will cry. I work with those god awful machines all day. Trying to get replacement parts is the biggest pain in my ass.
I say, build it yourself. As said before, it is not that hard.
And why are people recomending conroes? Unless you want to wait tull q3 of this year, that aint gonna happen.
for ram i would get crucial, their ddr2 800mhz is only 10 bucks more expensive than their 667... 320 bucks for 800mhz ram w/ 4-4-4-12 timings
conroe would be good, it did 16secs in super pi 1m!!! an fx60 did it in 21 secs, 5 secs in super pi is a huge difference... 1 million calculations in 16 seconds. that is fucking fast
In all honesty, I have never heard of a PC that "degrade" over time...
But those with concerns over brand name computers like Dells or Gateway... well, it's to be expected. Brand name computers are just that... but in order to ensure that the buyer gets all the software needed in order to suit virtually any needs desired so, it has to be loaded up. And that means preloading the system with things like WMP10, RealPlayer, QuickTime, MS micro-Office apps, and so forth. It is to ensure that they get the softwares needed in order to do the little things that people want out of a computer. Sure enough, all of that can slow down the system if there are little apps that start up when Windows starts. Just remember that a lot of them can be disabled and things can be tweaked around it w/o going for a full-blown reformat/wipe of the OS.
My laptop is, much to anyone's surprise, is a Gateway. It's a Centrino certified type... and runs everything I can ever want... Startup time isn't long either and it's not a major issue to me.
There's absolutely nothing wrong going with a brand name. You get the customer support that goes with the system and you don't have to worry about the technical aspects of the computer. Let the buyer decide and don't coerce him into not buying a certain brand. Only describe the experience you have and keep it formal.
But those with concerns over brand name computers like Dells or Gateway... well, it's to be expected. Brand name computers are just that... but in order to ensure that the buyer gets all the software needed in order to suit virtually any needs desired so, it has to be loaded up. And that means preloading the system with things like WMP10, RealPlayer, QuickTime, MS micro-Office apps, and so forth. It is to ensure that they get the softwares needed in order to do the little things that people want out of a computer. Sure enough, all of that can slow down the system if there are little apps that start up when Windows starts. Just remember that a lot of them can be disabled and things can be tweaked around it w/o going for a full-blown reformat/wipe of the OS.
My laptop is, much to anyone's surprise, is a Gateway. It's a Centrino certified type... and runs everything I can ever want... Startup time isn't long either and it's not a major issue to me.
There's absolutely nothing wrong going with a brand name. You get the customer support that goes with the system and you don't have to worry about the technical aspects of the computer. Let the buyer decide and don't coerce him into not buying a certain brand. Only describe the experience you have and keep it formal.