ownedDauntless wrote:
wait no it's not i just double checked
how's this for a sentence, fucking french philosophers and sociologists with their crazy fucking theories of society:
"Agents entrusted with acts of classification can fulfil their social function as social classifiers only because it is carried out in the guise of acts of academic classification. They only do well what they have to do (objectively) because they think they are doing something other than what they are doing, because they are doing something other than what they think they are doing, and because they believe in what they think they are doing. As fools fooled, they are the primary victims of their own actions."
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BOURDIEU
"Agents entrusted with acts of classification can fulfil their social function as social classifiers only because it is carried out in the guise of acts of academic classification. They only do well what they have to do (objectively) because they think they are doing something other than what they are doing, because they are doing something other than what they think they are doing, and because they believe in what they think they are doing. As fools fooled, they are the primary victims of their own actions."
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BOURDIEU
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yay for everyone folding when you have Aces in the BB
kill the phonies?Uzique wrote:
how's this for a sentence, fucking french philosophers and sociologists with their crazy fucking theories of society:
"Agents entrusted with acts of classification can fulfil their social function as social classifiers only because it is carried out in the guise of acts of academic classification. They only do well what they have to do (objectively) because they think they are doing something other than what they are doing, because they are doing something other than what they think they are doing, and because they believe in what they think they are doing. As fools fooled, they are the primary victims of their own actions."
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BOURDIEU
For Lukács it was the division of labour and the increasing sophistication of production under capitalism which gave rise to an ever greater specialisation of skills. In this way 'artificially isolated partial functions' were performed 'in the most rational manner by "specialists" who are specially adapted mentally and physically for the purpose'. As a consequence these partial, autonomous functions develop 'through their own momentum and in accordance with their own special laws independently of the other partial functions of society (or of that part of society to which they belong)'. This process of specialisation makes it progressively harder to conceive of an 'an image of the whole'.58 Lukács's primary concern was to demonstrate how workers could conceive of society in its totality as a result of the conflicts engendered by class exploitation, thus opening up a path to liberation. Despite the common ground between such concerns and Bourdieu's insistence on the role of agency in his own, infinitely more detailed, explorations of the development of autonomous fields, the 'image of the whole' nevertheless remains an elusive one in Bourdieu's work.
i fucking hate this essay
i fucking hate this essay
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bitch I'll cut you down to 1/11th your size11 Bravo wrote:
he said half, not eighthFlaming_Maniac wrote:
that half better not be me, or else
Then you'll just be Bravo.
.09 Bravo
When did he write?Uzique wrote:
For Lukács it was the division of labour and the increasing sophistication of production under capitalism which gave rise to an ever greater specialisation of skills. In this way 'artificially isolated partial functions' were performed 'in the most rational manner by "specialists" who are specially adapted mentally and physically for the purpose'. As a consequence these partial, autonomous functions develop 'through their own momentum and in accordance with their own special laws independently of the other partial functions of society (or of that part of society to which they belong)'. This process of specialisation makes it progressively harder to conceive of an 'an image of the whole'.58 Lukács's primary concern was to demonstrate how workers could conceive of society in its totality as a result of the conflicts engendered by class exploitation, thus opening up a path to liberation. Despite the common ground between such concerns and Bourdieu's insistence on the role of agency in his own, infinitely more detailed, explorations of the development of autonomous fields, the 'image of the whole' nevertheless remains an elusive one in Bourdieu's work.
i fucking hate this essay
.09(11Bravo) = ~1Bravo DUMMY11 Bravo wrote:
.09 Bravo
naggerFlaming_Maniac wrote:
.09(11Bravo) = ~1Bravo DUMMY11 Bravo wrote:
.09 Bravo
Newest Registered Member: ~1Bravo DUMMY
you should recognize lukacs as one of the biggest marxist scholars of the 20th century.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
When did he write?Uzique wrote:
For Lukács it was the division of labour and the increasing sophistication of production under capitalism which gave rise to an ever greater specialisation of skills. In this way 'artificially isolated partial functions' were performed 'in the most rational manner by "specialists" who are specially adapted mentally and physically for the purpose'. As a consequence these partial, autonomous functions develop 'through their own momentum and in accordance with their own special laws independently of the other partial functions of society (or of that part of society to which they belong)'. This process of specialisation makes it progressively harder to conceive of an 'an image of the whole'.58 Lukács's primary concern was to demonstrate how workers could conceive of society in its totality as a result of the conflicts engendered by class exploitation, thus opening up a path to liberation. Despite the common ground between such concerns and Bourdieu's insistence on the role of agency in his own, infinitely more detailed, explorations of the development of autonomous fields, the 'image of the whole' nevertheless remains an elusive one in Bourdieu's work.
i fucking hate this essay
they're both 20th century, relating to marxism, structuralism, post-structuralism, existentialism etc. bourdieu himself was quite a big proponent in the marxist anti-liberal movements of the french 1990's (i.e. lots of strikes and social upheaval).
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yes you are someone who annoys me11 Bravo wrote:
naggerFlaming_Maniac wrote:
.09(11Bravo) = ~1Bravo DUMMY11 Bravo wrote:
.09 Bravo
meh I would have been impressed if he wrote in the 19th century or really beforeUzique wrote:
you should recognize lukacs as one of the biggest marxist scholars of the 20th century.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
When did he write?Uzique wrote:
For Lukács it was the division of labour and the increasing sophistication of production under capitalism which gave rise to an ever greater specialisation of skills. In this way 'artificially isolated partial functions' were performed 'in the most rational manner by "specialists" who are specially adapted mentally and physically for the purpose'. As a consequence these partial, autonomous functions develop 'through their own momentum and in accordance with their own special laws independently of the other partial functions of society (or of that part of society to which they belong)'. This process of specialisation makes it progressively harder to conceive of an 'an image of the whole'.58 Lukács's primary concern was to demonstrate how workers could conceive of society in its totality as a result of the conflicts engendered by class exploitation, thus opening up a path to liberation. Despite the common ground between such concerns and Bourdieu's insistence on the role of agency in his own, infinitely more detailed, explorations of the development of autonomous fields, the 'image of the whole' nevertheless remains an elusive one in Bourdieu's work.
i fucking hate this essay
they're both 20th century, relating to marxism, structuralism, post-structuralism, existentialism etc. bourdieu himself was quite a big proponent in the marxist anti-liberal movements of the french 1990's (i.e. lots of strikes and social upheaval).
Would have been quite impressive to see the level of specialization and its implications that early.
^ ban.
F_M thinks Machiavelli is profound. He gets a pass.
Flaming_Maniac wrote:
yes you are someone who annoys me11 Bravo wrote:
naggerFlaming_Maniac wrote:
.09(11Bravo) = ~1Bravo DUMMY
J.K. Rowling is pretty profound
you're ownedphishsux wrote:
ownedDauntless wrote:
wait no it's not i just double checked

hahaha 'meh'.
FM is essentially arguing that it would have been amazing to see career specialization, in terms of physical role and mental application, before the industrial revolution. that's like saying it would have been awesome to see a proletariat revolution back in the nascent stages of marx's historical materialism theory, i.e. YOU MAKE NO FUCKING SENSE. there can't be career specialization in the 19th century because, quelle surprise, the 1800's pre-empt the MODERNIST era of which industrial and bourgeoisie culture evolved. i love how you implicitly put yourself and your judgements above the guy that is possibly the second greatest french intellectual of the 1900's-> behind Sartre. those summer technical camps must really be breeding an INTELLECTUAL MONSTER.
FM is essentially arguing that it would have been amazing to see career specialization, in terms of physical role and mental application, before the industrial revolution. that's like saying it would have been awesome to see a proletariat revolution back in the nascent stages of marx's historical materialism theory, i.e. YOU MAKE NO FUCKING SENSE. there can't be career specialization in the 19th century because, quelle surprise, the 1800's pre-empt the MODERNIST era of which industrial and bourgeoisie culture evolved. i love how you implicitly put yourself and your judgements above the guy that is possibly the second greatest french intellectual of the 1900's-> behind Sartre. those summer technical camps must really be breeding an INTELLECTUAL MONSTER.
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Oi! Amerika! Why wasn't Lost on TV last night? Why was there a break this week? D:
it would be cool if people had tails.Uzique wrote:
hahaha 'meh'.
FM is essentially arguing that it would have been amazing to see career specialization, in terms of physical role and mental application, before the industrial revolution. that's like saying it would have been awesome to see a proletariat revolution back in the nascent stages of marx's historical materialism theory, i.e. YOU MAKE NO FUCKING SENSE. there can't be career specialization in the 19th century because, quelle surprise, the 1800's pre-empt the MODERNIST era of which industrial and bourgeoisie culture evolved. i love how you implicitly put yourself and your judgements above the guy that is possibly the second greatest french intellectual of the 1900's-> behind Sartre. those summer technical camps must really be breeding an INTELLECTUAL MONSTER.

As if specialization didn't exist before the industrial revolution. Specialization and its psychological implications started the moment we stopped being hunter gatherers. To realize how it would exponentially take off before it actually happened would have been prophetic. To identify what has already happened is useful but not shocking.