Poll

Since joining BF2S's D&ST, have your political views strayed to the...

Far Left9%9% - 6
Left7%7% - 5
Moderate Left19%19% - 12
Center (more or less)26%26% - 17
Moderate Right9%9% - 6
Right19%19% - 12
Far Right7%7% - 5
Total: 63
ATG
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Uzique wrote:

Uzique wrote:

face it: it's more confusing to keep using the 'old' terms without any prefixes, because their common-conception changes and public understanding shifts around so much, that in fact the word itself and terminology would lose all currency and semantic meaning. to use 'liberal' to describe an economic theory nowadays in the american political landscape connotes the usage from 1950-> onwards, and not the classical liberalism propounded by european philosophers, politicians and statesmen centuries before.

there, now ive debunked your whine... go away and leave out the next 3 pages of pointless quote-dialogue. thanks.
shut up. fuck off. thanks.
lol, did you just tell yourself off, er what?

eleven bravo wrote:

lowing is a liberal lol
One sentence romper room jabs.
Is that all you are capable of ffs?

Last edited by ATG (2010-05-01 14:28:59)

Uzique
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atg, posts follow posts consecutively. i requoted myself because i wasn't going to simply retype the exact same information for the same ignorant dumbass.
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ATG
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I prefer to take it as it read. Please, take your own words literally.
lowing
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Uzique wrote:

hahaha lowing thinks that the use of the prefix 'neo' somehow implies some avoid-responsibility-European-hippie thing.

it's just a SEMANTIC way to SIGNIFY the (re)using of an OLD OR OUTMODED term, bringing it back into MODERN nomenclature

it doesn't represent or stand for ANY 'x' or 'y' or 'z' set of ideals; NEO is not an IDEOLOGY. it's part of a SYSTEM OF CATEGORISATION.
THere is no such thing as a new fuckin liberal, since I see no signs of the world all of sudden embracing personal freedom, personal responsibilty, and doing away with PC and entitlement. These things are growing, they are not receding. If there is anything fuckin "NEO" about liberalism it is to the new extent that they have pushed the bounderies of social entitlement and the shrug of individual responsibilty.
Uzique
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see this is where your dumbassery knows no bounds

an ORIGINAL liberal has nothing to do with the AMERICAN LIBERAL

CLASSICAL LIBERALISM =/= AMERICAN LIBERALISM

hence the need to attach the prefix of 'neo' to signify a NEW usage of the term LIBERAL.

ergo: NEO-LIBERAL =/= 'LIBERAL' (in the american sense of the word) VALUES
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lowing
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Uzique wrote:

see this is where your dumbassery knows no bounds

an ORIGINAL liberal has nothing to do with the AMERICAN LIBERAL

CLASSICAL LIBERALISM =/= AMERICAN LIBERALISM

hence the need to attach the prefix of 'neo' to signify a NEW usage of the term LIBERAL.

ergo: NEO-LIBERAL =/= 'LIBERAL' (in the american sense of the word) VALUES
While the rest of the world just calls us conservative.

Do not get pissed at me because you are ashamed of being called a liberal and are desperately seeking a new term for your bullshit. If you do not want to be associated with liberalism, then call yourself a conservative if you are all of a sudden pro-personal responsibility, pro-getting off your ass and getting a fuckin job, pro-working for your own gains instead of working for everyone elses gains. pro-kicking illeagal aliens out of the fuckin country, pro-cutting entitlement. If you are not for these things, then stick with what you are, a fuckin liberal, and live with it.

Last edited by lowing (2010-05-01 15:03:30)

Uzique
dasein.
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ohmygod

i thought you were just mentally retarded when it comes to islam... narrowminded on the topic of religion... entrenched in your political views...

it seems your brain is incapable of taking on any new thought what-so-ever.

and how the FUCK am i "ashamed of being called a liberal?" i said THE ECONOMIST is a neo-liberal publication. this isn't even about me you crazy fuck!
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Kmar
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Kmarion wrote:

Shouldn't they be called the Neo Tea Party? It's hard to take anyone wearing a three cornered hat seriously
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Uzique
dasein.
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i dont even know who we're talking about anymore

the thread is engulfed in a mist of confounding dumb haze
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Kmar
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My guess is that before George Bush most people only knew neo as some queer in a movie.
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Kmarion wrote:

My guess is that before George Bush most people only knew neo as some queer in a movie.
The Matrix is far from queer asshole.
Kmar
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jord wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

My guess is that before George Bush most people only knew neo as some queer in a movie.
The Matrix is far from queer asshole.
Whatever, homo.

Spoiler (highlight to read):
lolomg Keanu Reeves .. btw I own the trilogy
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jord
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Kmarion wrote:

jord wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

My guess is that before George Bush most people only knew neo as some queer in a movie.
The Matrix is far from queer asshole.
Whatever, homo.

Spoiler (highlight to read):
lolomg Keanu Reeves .. btw I own the trilogy
That film was the basis of my childhood. I was doing bulletime until I was 17...

wat.

ever
lowing
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Uzique wrote:

ohmygod

i thought you were just mentally retarded when it comes to islam... narrowminded on the topic of religion... entrenched in your political views...

it seems your brain is incapable of taking on any new thought what-so-ever.

and how the FUCK am i "ashamed of being called a liberal?" i said THE ECONOMIST is a neo-liberal publication. this isn't even about me you crazy fuck!
no, there are no new ideas from the liberals, it is a continuation of the same bullshit that has endured since Carter. There is no change of thought regarding what liberals believe, there is only a new measure of extremity to it. It does not need a new fuckin word attached to it to try and break the stigma of what liberals truely believe. THey tried this same bullshit when they adopted "PROGRESSIVE". THat didn't work and neither will "NEO".. Accept what you all are and stop trying to disguise it with new and improved bullshit words.
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lowing this isn't a matter of opinion, it is just terminology. this might annoy you, but its not something you can change. your stance atm is akin to pointing at the OED and saying 'lololol ur rong'
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lowing needs to write his dictionary where he can attach whatever meaning to words that that he wants
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Uzique
dasein.
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lowing. YOU FUCKING MORON.

'liberal' DID NOT START WITH CARTER. IT STARTED ABOUT 300 YEARS EARLIER.

classical, european liberalism, the ORIGINAL and PROPER use of the term 'liberal', does not stand for ANYTHING that Carter stood for

hence why american political commentators insist on those pesky annoying 'neo' prefixes: so fucking idiots like you don't get CONFUSED

apparently the effort is wasted
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lowing
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eleven bravo wrote:

lowing needs to write his dictionary where he can attach whatever meaning to words that that he wants
Might as well, works for all of you.

See racist. to mean anyone who disagrees with Obama, or anyone who disagrees with a religion.
Kmar
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This all seems very familiar.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=68717

Or..

yerded wrote:

Liberals are the guys who are brushing up on their Arabic so that when Sharia law is thrust upon us they can be the first to bow down and worship at the alter of Osama.
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Flaming_Maniac
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Hahahaha that second link and its response are so cute together, the beginning of a relationship that would blossom.
lowing
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Uzique wrote:

lowing. YOU FUCKING MORON.

'liberal' DID NOT START WITH CARTER. IT STARTED ABOUT 300 YEARS EARLIER.

classical, european liberalism, the ORIGINAL and PROPER use of the term 'liberal', does not stand for ANYTHING that Carter stood for

hence why american political commentators insist on those pesky annoying 'neo' prefixes: so fucking idiots like you don't get CONFUSED

apparently the effort is wasted
I see, so you attach a NEW word meaning new, yet fix it to an old word in order to get back to the old meaning.....got it....Only a liberal would dream up some bullshit like that. Or is it a neo liberal that would? Oh well.
FatherTed
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lowing wrote:

Uzique wrote:

lowing. YOU FUCKING MORON.

'liberal' DID NOT START WITH CARTER. IT STARTED ABOUT 300 YEARS EARLIER.

classical, european liberalism, the ORIGINAL and PROPER use of the term 'liberal', does not stand for ANYTHING that Carter stood for

hence why american political commentators insist on those pesky annoying 'neo' prefixes: so fucking idiots like you don't get CONFUSED

apparently the effort is wasted
I see, so you attach a NEW word meaning new, yet fix it to an old word in order to get back to the old meaning.....got it....Only a liberal would dream up some bullshit like that. Or is it a neo liberal that would? Oh well.
arrrrggggh this isnt about political affiliation at all, stop trying to make it into a slapfight. this is about being able to differentiate between the original liberal (or any political swaying) meaning, and the current ones practised in america. in no shape or sort or form is this 'liberal bullshit' its just a way to tell the two apart. FOR FUCKS SAKE you're just wrong. it happens.
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ATG
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Kmarion wrote:

This all seems very familiar.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=68717

Or..

yerded wrote:

Liberals are the guys who are brushing up on their Arabic so that when Sharia law is thrust upon us they can be the first to bow down and worship at the alter of Osama.
You left out some key parts of that post sir.
Selective quoting ftl.


yerded wrote:

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, Republicans are almost as bad.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Hahahaha that second link and its response are so cute together, the beginning of a relationship that would blossom.
We used to game together tbh.

He became an intolerant douche nozzle.
I just became more charming.
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ATG wrote:

We used to game together tbh.
You guys need to get together, have a Pow-wow and smoke the peace pipe TBH.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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ATG wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

This all seems very familiar.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=68717

Or..

yerded wrote:

Liberals are the guys who are brushing up on their Arabic so that when Sharia law is thrust upon us they can be the first to bow down and worship at the alter of Osama.
You left out some key parts of that post sir.
Selective quoting ftl.
lol.. did I offend you or something? It was for shiz an jizz.

here, cause this clears everything up

Devoid of ideas they simply oppose every move by anyone with a Republican leaning.
     These are the guys who don't believe in borders. These are the gun banning secret selling people who think America doesn't deserve it's place in the food chain.
     Liberals are led by morons like Murtha and Al Gore who go around saying Americas Armies are broken, her soldiers torture innocents.
     Liberals are the types poisoning the minds of our students, indoctorinating them to hate America. They deserve no more than a few seconds against a cold brick wall and a couple of ounce of hot lead at about 2400 fps. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, Republicans are almost as bad.
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