CammRobb
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Computerworld - After two years of inflated prices, NAND flash memory prices are expected to dip down to a key $1 per gigabyte level, according to a new report by research firm iSuppli.

The precipitous drop marks the first time NAND flash pricing has fallen to the $1 per GB threshold since the fourth quarter of 2008, when consumer-class NAND pricing averaged 90 cents per GB.

Skyrocketing NAND flash prices last year subdued what had been a booming solid state drive (SSD) market. The price of flash memory chips rose to $4.10 per GB in the second quarter of last year.

Pricing for NAND flash memory had been expected to flat-line until next year, when NAND flash chip fabricators will be able to reinvest their profits to ramp up production and begin selling higher-density products, industry experts say.

But in a report released today, iSuppli forecasts that NAND flash pricing for 3-bit-per-cell NAND will average $1.20 per GB for the entire fourth quarter and will then drop to $1 by the end of this year. The $1 per GB level is considered a threshold that will drive adoption of solid state drives, iSuppli stated.

The recent price drop is reflected in the first quarter of 2010, when pricing for 3-bit-per-cell (or triple-level cell) NAND averaged $1.80 per GB and 2-bit per cell flash was at $2.05, iSuppli stated.

"When NAND pricing first fell below the $1 level at the end of 2008, many observers opined that it would sound the starting gun for solid state storage, allowing the technology to be cost competitive with hard disk drives in PCs for the first time," Michael Yang, iSuppli senior analyst for memory and storage, said in a statement. "However, during the following quarters, pricing rose because of strong demand and constrained production capacity, limiting the appeal of SSDs to low-volume servers in data centers and preventing widespread adoption in high-volume business and consumer PCs."

Objective Analysis research analyst Jim Handy disagreed with iSuppli's forecast, saying NAND flash memory is still suffering from a shortage and that prices are going to stay pretty flat till the second half of next year.

"Then they will drop ... darn fast. The cost of the just-announced Intel/Micron 25nm, three-bit NAND should be 40 cents per gigabyte once volume is reached," he said. "In other words, I disagree greatly with iSuppli. So does history."

Objective Analysis came out with a report earlier this week that also stated SSDs are poised for rapid growth in certain niche markets.

The report, Solid State Disk Market Outlook 2010, states that while SSDs havent found widespread acceptance in general-purpose PCs, those applications that benefit from this technology will drive the server SSD market to grow at an impressive 60% year over year rate.
I can see SSDs being included in consumer-level desktops in 2-4 years. Hopefully this drop in price will drive more people to buying them, in turn making them drop further in price. Or maybe people will realise that they're getting cheaper, and continue waiting, thus having a negative effect.
.Sup
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I still think the cheapest "work" PCs will have HDDs (even in 4 years) because people want lots of storage for a low price and if the PC costs 300€ no one will pay extra 100€ to get a smaller disk. Besides for office work there won't be much noticeable difference in speed. I still think 1$ peg gig is too much but its defo a step in the right direction. SSDs are one of those components that you just gotta expect to shell a lot of money but it will last and you will love it.
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RDMC
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It is still incredibly expensive compared to the €0.05 per GB I payed for my Samsung Spinpoint, but I guess it is a step forward. Maybe in 5 years we'll finally be able to buy SSD's for €0.05 per GB.
.Sup
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RDMC wrote:

It is still incredibly expensive compared to the €0.05 per GB I payed for my Samsung Spinpoint, but I guess it is a step forward. Maybe in 5 years we'll finally be able to buy SSD's for €0.05 per GB.
I don't think so. I think in 5 years we will be putting SD cards in our PCs instead of disks and even if it uses the same Nand flash tech it will become pricey again as its new tech (large capacity cards 100gb+). Imo
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Freezer7Pro
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.Sup wrote:

RDMC wrote:

It is still incredibly expensive compared to the €0.05 per GB I payed for my Samsung Spinpoint, but I guess it is a step forward. Maybe in 5 years we'll finally be able to buy SSD's for €0.05 per GB.
I don't think so. I think in 5 years we will be putting SD cards in our PCs instead of disks and even if it uses the same Nand flash tech it will become pricey again as its new tech (large capacity cards 100gb+). Imo
How, exactly, do you mean that a smaller-format storage medium will in any way be more cost efficient, and/or faster than a larger one based upon the same technology?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
.Sup
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

RDMC wrote:

It is still incredibly expensive compared to the €0.05 per GB I payed for my Samsung Spinpoint, but I guess it is a step forward. Maybe in 5 years we'll finally be able to buy SSD's for €0.05 per GB.
I don't think so. I think in 5 years we will be putting SD cards in our PCs instead of disks and even if it uses the same Nand flash tech it will become pricey again as its new tech (large capacity cards 100gb+). Imo
How, exactly, do you mean that a smaller-format storage medium will in any way be more cost efficient, and/or faster than a larger one based upon the same technology?
I didn't say any of that.
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Freezer7Pro
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.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:


I don't think so. I think in 5 years we will be putting SD cards in our PCs instead of disks and even if it uses the same Nand flash tech it will become pricey again as its new tech (large capacity cards 100gb+). Imo
How, exactly, do you mean that a smaller-format storage medium will in any way be more cost efficient, and/or faster than a larger one based upon the same technology?
I didn't say any of that.
By saying "I think in 5 years we will be putting SD cards in our PCs instead of disks", it's implied that SD cards will be superior to "full-format" SSDs.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
.Sup
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


How, exactly, do you mean that a smaller-format storage medium will in any way be more cost efficient, and/or faster than a larger one based upon the same technology?
I didn't say any of that.
By saying "I think in 5 years we will be putting SD cards in our PCs instead of disks", it's implied that SD cards will be superior to "full-format" SSDs.
I believe in 5 years we will be moving to smaller formats, that's all. You know to reduce size and weight of a laptop for example.
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Freezer7Pro
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.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:


I didn't say any of that.
By saying "I think in 5 years we will be putting SD cards in our PCs instead of disks", it's implied that SD cards will be superior to "full-format" SSDs.
I believe in 5 years we will be moving to smaller formats, that's all. You know to reduce size and weight of a laptop for example.
Oh, I see. Should've been a bit more clear.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
CammRobb
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Heh, looks like .Soup was right on the mark

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20014032-264.html
RDMC
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CammRobb wrote:

Heh, looks like .Soup was right on the mark

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20014032-264.html
Fuck. He can read the future
TheEternalPessimist
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.Sup wrote:

I still think the cheapest "work" PCs will have HDDs (even in 4 years) because people want lots of storage for a low price and if the PC costs 300€ no one will pay extra 100€ to get a smaller disk. Besides for office work there won't be much noticeable difference in speed. I still think 1$ peg gig is too much but its defo a step in the right direction. SSDs are one of those components that you just gotta expect to shell a lot of money but it will last and you will love it.
Depends on the environment, we're already considering basic SSDs at the school I work at as all file storage is entirely network based.
mikkel
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RDMC wrote:

CammRobb wrote:

Heh, looks like .Soup was right on the mark

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20014032-264.html
Fuck. He can read the future
More like read the past. This article is two days old, and it was on the front page of Slashdot. I agree, though, that predicting smaller components in laptops is something that requires a keen understanding of the form-factor.

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RDMC
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mikkel wrote:

RDMC wrote:

CammRobb wrote:

Heh, looks like .Soup was right on the mark

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20014032-264.html
Fuck. He can read the future
More like read the past. This article is two days old, and it was on the front page of Slashdot. I agree, though, that predicting smaller components in laptops is something that requires a keen understanding of the form-factor.
/facepalm.
.Sup
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mikkel wrote:

RDMC wrote:

CammRobb wrote:

Heh, looks like .Soup was right on the mark

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20014032-264.html
Fuck. He can read the future
More like read the past. This article is two days old, and it was on the front page of Slashdot. I agree, though, that predicting smaller components in laptops is something that requires a keen understanding of the form-factor.
Envy? I haven't read the article or any article regarding flash drives in fact its been months since I ready any PC hardware related article. But no, its not hard at all to predict we will be moving to smaller sized storage components. So? That all u got to say?
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Small SSDs will have their place in mobile stuff. But PCs will heavily favor the 2.5 inch format to allow more capacity and performance. There is room for them, no reason to do it harder than necessary.
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mikkel
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.Sup wrote:

mikkel wrote:

RDMC wrote:


Fuck. He can read the future
More like read the past. This article is two days old, and it was on the front page of Slashdot. I agree, though, that predicting smaller components in laptops is something that requires a keen understanding of the form-factor.
Envy? I haven't read the article or any article regarding flash drives in fact its been months since I ready any PC hardware related article. But no, its not hard at all to predict we will be moving to smaller sized storage components. So? That all u got to say?
Yes, I'm terribly envious.

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