DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|7078|Finland

Dilbert_X wrote:

DonFck wrote:

19% would free up a lot of cash for the public sector and get things rolling. It would generate jobs like a motherf...
Why do that when you can blow it on kerosene and diesel for military vehicles?
Because as marine said, wars do create a load jobs. However, I strongly believe that it's hardly a long-term solution, and that the amount money spent to create these jobs is definitely more than needed to create the same amount of jobs in the public sector, and sustaining them.

See, sustainable growth is a good thing. Rapid growth in the oil and arms industry for the duration of a war generates funds in short term for just these industries, while all things domestic take a blow to the gut.

Take infrastructure, for instance. I'd rather have my tax money spent on smooth tarmac roads, an electric grid that's maintained with minimal to no blackouts (minimal come from E.g. storm damage and such), and stutter-free high speed internet to my house at a low cost, than blow it all on a war.

After a military campaign, the roads still suck, the grid is older and less reliable than it was, and your Internet connection is still doing 512 kbps on DSL. Only the country has less money to do something about it.

Wars do create jobs. Peace creates sustainable growth. War is inevitable at times, I know that. And military equipment advances need war to go forward. But what about increasing quality of life for as many as possible? In my eyes, it looks better on paper at least.
I need around tree fiddy.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5684|Cleveland, Ohio

Dilbert_X wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

well its not your money so dont you worry your pretty face
Your country is in recession, mine isn't, suck it.
not rly
Cybargs
Moderated
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DonFck wrote:

Because as marine said, wars do create a load jobs. However, I strongly believe that it's hardly a long-term solution, and that the amount money spent to create these jobs is definitely more than needed to create the same amount of jobs in the public sector, and sustaining them.

See, sustainable growth is a good thing. Rapid growth in the oil and arms industry for the duration of a war generates funds in short term for just these industries, while all things domestic take a blow to the gut.

Take infrastructure, for instance. I'd rather have my tax money spent on smooth tarmac roads, an electric grid that's maintained with minimal to no blackouts (minimal come from E.g. storm damage and such), and stutter-free high speed internet to my house at a low cost, than blow it all on a war.

After a military campaign, the roads still suck, the grid is older and less reliable than it was, and your Internet connection is still doing 512 kbps on DSL. Only the country has less money to do something about it.
One thing that is good about the MIC is keeping an active military... Gov spends ton of money providing job training and shit.

Don: local and state govs do spend tons of money on infrastructure... not the feds job. Feds job is primarily national defence.
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DonFck
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Cybargs, you mean offense, right? Also, if fed has less money, states have less money. A tax payer can only give so much until his/her wallet is too thin.
I need around tree fiddy.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5684|Cleveland, Ohio

DonFck wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

DonFck wrote:

19% would free up a lot of cash for the public sector and get things rolling. It would generate jobs like a motherf...
Why do that when you can blow it on kerosene and diesel for military vehicles?
Because as marine said, wars do create a load jobs. However, I strongly believe that it's hardly a long-term solution, and that the amount money spent to create these jobs is definitely more than needed to create the same amount of jobs in the public sector, and sustaining them.

See, sustainable growth is a good thing. Rapid growth in the oil and arms industry for the duration of a war generates funds in short term for just these industries, while all things domestic take a blow to the gut.

Take infrastructure, for instance. I'd rather have my tax money spent on smooth tarmac roads, an electric grid that's maintained with minimal to no blackouts (minimal come from E.g. storm damage and such), and stutter-free high speed internet to my house at a low cost, than blow it all on a war.

After a military campaign, the roads still suck, the grid is older and less reliable than it was, and your Internet connection is still doing 512 kbps on DSL. Only the country has less money to do something about it.

Wars do create jobs. Peace creates sustainable growth. War is inevitable at times, I know that. And military equipment advances need war to go forward. But what about increasing quality of life for as many as possible? In my eyes, it looks better on paper at least.
dsl?  lol
DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|7078|Finland

Nice comeback, I see you had all the answers there.
I need around tree fiddy.
Cybargs
Moderated
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DonFck wrote:

Cybargs, you mean offense, right?
i see what you did thar. theres a reason for afghanistan: taliban harboring obl. theres a reason for iraq: didn't follow UNSC resolution 1441 and got ass whooped.
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DonFck
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+3,227|7078|Finland

Cybargs wrote:

DonFck wrote:

Cybargs, you mean offense, right?
i see what you did thar. theres a reason for afghanistan: taliban harboring obl. theres a reason for iraq: didn't follow UNSC resolution 1441 and got ass whooped.
When is the US gonna whoop Israel's ass?

That's right.
I need around tree fiddy.
Cybargs
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DonFck wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

DonFck wrote:

Cybargs, you mean offense, right?
i see what you did thar. theres a reason for afghanistan: taliban harboring obl. theres a reason for iraq: didn't follow UNSC resolution 1441 and got ass whooped.
When is the US gonna whoop Israel's ass?

That's right.
None of the UN resos against israel has article 7 in them... so bl. US would veto any reso that israel would not like anyway.

donny you get my point about national defence.
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11 Bravo
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DonFck wrote:

Nice comeback, I see you had all the answers there.
well you have all the answers so i dont want to rain on your parade.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5684|Cleveland, Ohio

DonFck wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

DonFck wrote:

Cybargs, you mean offense, right?
i see what you did thar. theres a reason for afghanistan: taliban harboring obl. theres a reason for iraq: didn't follow UNSC resolution 1441 and got ass whooped.
When is the US gonna whoop Israel's ass?

That's right.
when is finland going to stop the evil jews?

thats right

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Cybargs
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11 Bravo wrote:

DonFck wrote:

Cybargs wrote:


i see what you did thar. theres a reason for afghanistan: taliban harboring obl. theres a reason for iraq: didn't follow UNSC resolution 1441 and got ass whooped.
When is the US gonna whoop Israel's ass?

That's right.
when is finland going to stop the evil jews?

thats right
finland gonna squeal.
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DonFck
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+3,227|7078|Finland

11 Bravo wrote:

DonFck wrote:

Cybargs wrote:


i see what you did thar. theres a reason for afghanistan: taliban harboring obl. theres a reason for iraq: didn't follow UNSC resolution 1441 and got ass whooped.
When is the US gonna whoop Israel's ass?

That's right.
when is finland going to stop the evil jews?

thats right
Our defense forces are exactly as the name implies. Defense. If the U.S. really is world police (which we do every now and then need, and I'm grateful for ending WWII and all), then it should function as such also. Now it looks like a dirty cop and the IAD (U.N.) can't do anything about it.

The U.N. needs to harden the fuck up. Either that, or scrap it altogether and make NATO:s Partnership for Peace programme a fully functional world police.

I'm off topic.
I need around tree fiddy.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7163

DonFck wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

DonFck wrote:


When is the US gonna whoop Israel's ass?

That's right.
when is finland going to stop the evil jews?

thats right
Our defense forces are exactly as the name implies. Defense. If the U.S. really is world police (which we do every now and then need, and I'm grateful for ending WWII and all), then it should function as such also. Now it looks like a dirty cop and the IAD (U.N.) can't do anything about it.

The U.N. needs to harden the fuck up. Either that, or scrap it altogether and make NATO:s Partnership for Peace programme a fully functional world police.

I'm off topic.
damned if you do damned if you don't.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

Dilbert_X wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:


Why do that when you can blow it on kerosene and diesel for military vehicles?
trolltastic
Oops, forgot munitions.

The point is, its just pissed away in the wind.
Pretty much
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5684|Cleveland, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


trolltastic
Oops, forgot munitions.

The point is, its just pissed away in the wind.
Pretty much
please leave then
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5684|Cleveland, Ohio

DonFck wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

DonFck wrote:


When is the US gonna whoop Israel's ass?

That's right.
when is finland going to stop the evil jews?

thats right
Our defense forces are exactly as the name implies. Defense. If the U.S. really is world police (which we do every now and then need, and I'm grateful for ending WWII and all), then it should function as such also. Now it looks like a dirty cop and the IAD (U.N.) can't do anything about it.

The U.N. needs to harden the fuck up. Either that, or scrap it altogether and make NATO:s Partnership for Peace programme a fully functional world police.

I'm off topic.
right so you just want to sit back and QQ

how noble
Varegg
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Wait behind the line ..............................................................
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

11 Bravo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:


Oops, forgot munitions.

The point is, its just pissed away in the wind.
Pretty much
please leave then
Why would I want to leave a country where I can help fund the education of people like you?  Admittedly, it doesn't seem to have worked out for you that well.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5684|Cleveland, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


Pretty much
please leave then
Why would I want to leave a country where I can help fund the education of people like you?  Admittedly, it doesn't seem to have worked out for you that well.
erm what do you think you have to do in euro land?

why would you leave?  cuz you have been saying you want to for 5 years now...so do it you wimp
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5684|Cleveland, Ohio
??

i dont want us to attack anyone anywhere tbh.  i am all aboot defense.  but to just sit back and cry...is...well pussy
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7256|Nårvei

11 Bravo wrote:

??

i dont want us to attack anyone anywhere tbh.  i am all aboot defense.
Could have fooled me ...

11 bravo wrote:

but to just sit back and cry...is...well pussy
Who's crying?
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

11 Bravo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


please leave then
Why would I want to leave a country where I can help fund the education of people like you?  Admittedly, it doesn't seem to have worked out for you that well.
erm what do you think you have to do in euro land?
True, funding the education of others is somewhat of a universal thing, although the taxes are lower here on average.

11 Bravo wrote:

why would you leave?  cuz you have been saying you want to for 5 years now...so do it you wimp
I changed my mind.  Just knowing how much you appreciate my company is enough to keep me here. 
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5684|Cleveland, Ohio

Varegg wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

??

i dont want us to attack anyone anywhere tbh.  i am all aboot defense.
Could have fooled me ...

11 bravo wrote:

but to just sit back and cry...is...well pussy
Who's crying?
dude you really are the mod troll of dst...

donfuck was talking about them there dirty jews ya here
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7163

11 Bravo wrote:

Varegg wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


??

i dont want us to attack anyone anywhere tbh.  i am all aboot defense.
Could have fooled me ...

11 bravo wrote:

but to just sit back and cry...is...well pussy
Who's crying?
dude you really are the mod troll of dst...

donfuck was talking about them there dirty jews ya here
jews did wtc and iraq false flag
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