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I guess you have to know what you're talking about if you want to criticize religion...
I guess you have to know what you're talking about if you want to criticize religion...
This is true. I can't tell you how many believers I've had to correct over the years. The most common mistake is believing that Catholics are somehow a religion apart. If you ain't Catholic and you ain't Orthodox, you're Protestant. You all worship the same god and read out of the same book. This is most common among people who define themselves as Christian without a denomination attached. Southern style.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
yup...JohnG@lt wrote:
This is true. I can't tell you how many believers I've had to correct over the years. The most common mistake is believing that Catholics are somehow a religion apart. If you ain't Catholic and you ain't Orthodox, you're Protestant. You all worship the same god and read out of the same book. This is most common among people who define themselves as Christian without a denomination attached. Southern style.
I guess people just don't want to be seen as questioning their faith...
More likely they just don't bother, since they've had it from childhood.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Laziness plays a role too, predictably.Spark wrote:
More likely they just don't bother, since they've had it from childhood.
I'm trying to take the quiz but the site is predictably bogged down right now
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
lol @ this post
Bacteria resisting antibiotics anyone?But I also find it ironic that atheists and agnostics score the highest in their knowledge of religion because their supposed education and thoughtful reflection, yet their beliefs are actually the most illogical of them all. At least the religions acknowledge the obvious that some kind God or Supreme Being had to place them and everything else here. That is they can't get here by themselves.
Atheists and agnostics however consider themselves enlightened and love to label their beliefs as scientific, when nothing could be further from the truth.
To consider briefly:
Something comes from nothing?
Order springs from chaos without an intelligent force to give it order?
Intelligence comes from unintelligence?
Random forces can do useful work without intelligent control?
Matter spontaneously improves upon itself?
Life comes from non-life?
Genetic mutation is the alleged primary engine which drives the evolutionary process in living beings when scientific evidence shows that virtually all mutations are harmful and dangerous?
The list of absurdities are endless.
So sorry, but atheists and agnostics have simply jumped from one circus into an even worst one, in spite of all their education and supposedly "careful reflection" on matters.
I'm surprised he didn't add "Being unable to describe what salt tastes like" to his list.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Whenever I read something like that it genuinely sounds silly to me. As if the author were doing it for shits and giggles.Trotskygrad wrote:
lol @ this postBacteria resisting antibiotics anyone?But I also find it ironic that atheists and agnostics score the highest in their knowledge of religion because their supposed education and thoughtful reflection, yet their beliefs are actually the most illogical of them all. At least the religions acknowledge the obvious that some kind God or Supreme Being had to place them and everything else here. That is they can't get here by themselves.
Atheists and agnostics however consider themselves enlightened and love to label their beliefs as scientific, when nothing could be further from the truth.
To consider briefly:
Something comes from nothing?
Order springs from chaos without an intelligent force to give it order?
Intelligence comes from unintelligence?
Random forces can do useful work without intelligent control?
Matter spontaneously improves upon itself?
Life comes from non-life?
Genetic mutation is the alleged primary engine which drives the evolutionary process in living beings when scientific evidence shows that virtually all mutations are harmful and dangerous?
The list of absurdities are endless.
So sorry, but atheists and agnostics have simply jumped from one circus into an even worst one, in spite of all their education and supposedly "careful reflection" on matters.
that's almost as bad as one guy who was talking about how "games in which crouching makes you more accurate is retarded.. How does bending your knee magically make your gun more accurate?"JohnG@lt wrote:
I'm surprised he didn't add "Being unable to describe what salt tastes like" to his list.
or something like that. But I digress.
I guess this accounts for a VERY large portion of extremism, misinformation, or manipulation of information by groups to provoke reactions... (I'm thinking about false reports that the Koran (too lazy to type it properly, correct me mods) was actually burned being disseminated to rile up US hatred)
8 questions in and it seems pretty easy to me. One question about Jews, one about Muslims and one about Hindus so far, 2 about Catholics and one about Christianity in general.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Why the guy has grouped atheists and agnostics together is beyond me. What a tool.h
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because they're both non-believers?jord wrote:
Why the guy has grouped atheists and agnostics together is beyond me. What a tool.h
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EDIT: yeah the quiz is laggy as shit
Last edited by Trotskygrad (2010-09-28 06:39:20)
It's because it's on Fox News' frontpage. All the religious are trying to prove they are better than atheistsTrotskygrad wrote:
because they're both non-believers?jord wrote:
Why the guy has grouped atheists and agnostics together is beyond me. What a tool.h
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EDIT: yeah the quiz is laggy as shit
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Not necessarily, those examples he's given don't apply for many agnostics. Meh.Trotskygrad wrote:
because they're both non-believers?jord wrote:
Why the guy has grouped atheists and agnostics together is beyond me. What a tool.h
Sss
EDIT: yeah the quiz is laggy as shit
I can just imagine such people jamming chloroquine down a dying guy's throat yelling "DAMNIT WHY WON'T IT WORK"Trotskygrad wrote:
lol @ this postBacteria resisting antibiotics anyone?But I also find it ironic that atheists and agnostics score the highest in their knowledge of religion because their supposed education and thoughtful reflection, yet their beliefs are actually the most illogical of them all. At least the religions acknowledge the obvious that some kind God or Supreme Being had to place them and everything else here. That is they can't get here by themselves.
Atheists and agnostics however consider themselves enlightened and love to label their beliefs as scientific, when nothing could be further from the truth.
To consider briefly:
Something comes from nothing?
Order springs from chaos without an intelligent force to give it order?
Intelligence comes from unintelligence?
Random forces can do useful work without intelligent control?
Matter spontaneously improves upon itself?
Life comes from non-life?
Genetic mutation is the alleged primary engine which drives the evolutionary process in living beings when scientific evidence shows that virtually all mutations are harmful and dangerous?
The list of absurdities are endless.
So sorry, but atheists and agnostics have simply jumped from one circus into an even worst one, in spite of all their education and supposedly "careful reflection" on matters.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
You answered 15 out of 15 questions correctly
for a score of 100%.
for a score of 100%.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Here is the quiz for anyone that can't load the pages due to lagginess.
1. Which Bible figure is most closely associated with leading the exodus from Egypt?
* Job
* Elijah
* Moses
* Abraham
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Moses
2. What was Mother Teresa's religion?
* Catholic
* Jewish
* Buddhist
* Mormon
* Hindu
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Catholic
3. Which of the following is NOT one of the Ten Commandments?
* Do not commit adultery
* Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
* Do not steal
* Keep the Sabbath holy
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
4. When does the Jewish Sabbath begin?
* Friday
* Saturday
* Sunday
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Friday
5. Is Ramadan…?
* The Hindu festival of lights
* A Jewish day of atonement
* The Islamic holy month
Spoiler (highlight to read):
The Islamic holy month
6. Which of the following best describes the Catholic teaching about the bread and wine used for Communion?
* The bread and wine actually become the body and blood of Jesus Christ.
* The bread and wine are symbols of the body and blood of Jesus Christ.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
The bread and wine actually become the body and blood of Jesus Christ.
7. In which religion are Vishnu and Shiva central figures?
* Islam
* Hinduism
* Taoism
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Hinduism
8. Which Bible figure is most closely associated with remaining obedient to God despite suffering?
* Job
* Elijah
* Moses
* Abraham
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Job
9. What was Joseph Smith's religion?
* Catholic
* Jewish
* Buddhist
* Mormon
* Hindu
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Mormon
10. According to rulings by the U.S. Supreme Court, is a public school teacher permitted to lead a class in prayer, or not?
* Yes, permitted
* No, not permitted
Spoiler (highlight to read):
No, not permitted
11. According to rulings by the U.S. Supreme Court, is a public school teacher permitted to read from the Bible as an example of literature, or not?
* Yes, permitted
* No, not permitted
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Yes, permitted
12. What religion do most people in Pakistan consider themselves?
* Buddhist
* Hindu
* Muslim
* Christian
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Muslim
13. What was the name of the person whose writings and actions inspired the Protestant Reformation?
* Martin Luther
* Thomas Aquinas
* John Wesley
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Martin Luther
14. Which of these religions aims at nirvana, the state of being free from suffering?
* Islam
* Buddhism
* Hinduism
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Buddhism
15. Which one of these preachers participated in the period of religious activity known as the First Great Awakening?
* Jonathan Edwards
* Charles Finney
* Billy Graham
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Jonathan Edwards
1. Which Bible figure is most closely associated with leading the exodus from Egypt?
* Job
* Elijah
* Moses
* Abraham
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Moses
2. What was Mother Teresa's religion?
* Catholic
* Jewish
* Buddhist
* Mormon
* Hindu
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Catholic
3. Which of the following is NOT one of the Ten Commandments?
* Do not commit adultery
* Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
* Do not steal
* Keep the Sabbath holy
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
4. When does the Jewish Sabbath begin?
* Friday
* Saturday
* Sunday
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Friday
5. Is Ramadan…?
* The Hindu festival of lights
* A Jewish day of atonement
* The Islamic holy month
Spoiler (highlight to read):
The Islamic holy month
6. Which of the following best describes the Catholic teaching about the bread and wine used for Communion?
* The bread and wine actually become the body and blood of Jesus Christ.
* The bread and wine are symbols of the body and blood of Jesus Christ.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
The bread and wine actually become the body and blood of Jesus Christ.
7. In which religion are Vishnu and Shiva central figures?
* Islam
* Hinduism
* Taoism
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Hinduism
8. Which Bible figure is most closely associated with remaining obedient to God despite suffering?
* Job
* Elijah
* Moses
* Abraham
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Job
9. What was Joseph Smith's religion?
* Catholic
* Jewish
* Buddhist
* Mormon
* Hindu
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Mormon
10. According to rulings by the U.S. Supreme Court, is a public school teacher permitted to lead a class in prayer, or not?
* Yes, permitted
* No, not permitted
Spoiler (highlight to read):
No, not permitted
11. According to rulings by the U.S. Supreme Court, is a public school teacher permitted to read from the Bible as an example of literature, or not?
* Yes, permitted
* No, not permitted
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Yes, permitted
12. What religion do most people in Pakistan consider themselves?
* Buddhist
* Hindu
* Muslim
* Christian
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Muslim
13. What was the name of the person whose writings and actions inspired the Protestant Reformation?
* Martin Luther
* Thomas Aquinas
* John Wesley
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Martin Luther
14. Which of these religions aims at nirvana, the state of being free from suffering?
* Islam
* Buddhism
* Hinduism
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Buddhism
15. Which one of these preachers participated in the period of religious activity known as the First Great Awakening?
* Jonathan Edwards
* Charles Finney
* Billy Graham
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Jonathan Edwards
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Missed the last one. Otherwise - a fair amount of it is actually just obvious intuitive guesswork and not that much to do with "knowing religion" at all (3 lol)
Last edited by Spark (2010-09-28 07:08:10)
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
I know few of them, I put that down to some of the questions being aimed at Americans and never really reading up on religion anyway.
It's definitely American-centric, yeah.jord wrote:
I know few of them, I put that down to some of the questions being aimed at Americans and never really reading up on religion anyway.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
I got 12 out of 15.
I missed the Jewish Sabbath one, the blood and flesh one, and the last one.
I'm not sure if that makes me better or worse than believers on average.
I missed the Jewish Sabbath one, the blood and flesh one, and the last one.
I'm not sure if that makes me better or worse than believers on average.
Turquoise wrote:
I got 12 out of 15.
I missed the Jewish Sabbath one, the blood and flesh one, and the last one.
I'm not sure if that makes me better or worse than believers on average.
Here's the breakdown.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
looks like a fairly standard bell/gaussian curve tbh.JohnG@lt wrote:
http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-re … ram-15.gifTurquoise wrote:
I got 12 out of 15.
I missed the Jewish Sabbath one, the blood and flesh one, and the last one.
I'm not sure if that makes me better or worse than believers on average.
Here's the breakdown.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Filter blocked it.. what's the rub?JohnG@lt wrote:
http://features.pewforum.org/quiz/us-re … ram-15.gifTurquoise wrote:
I got 12 out of 15.
I missed the Jewish Sabbath one, the blood and flesh one, and the last one.
I'm not sure if that makes me better or worse than believers on average.
Here's the breakdown.