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2010-10-25 13:49:43

#6626

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6998|Cinncinatti

JohnG@lt wrote:
menzo wrote:
are the clever, the bit less clever and the stupid separated in the US or UK at high school level? here we have VWO, HAVO and VMBO

if you have done VWO you can go to uni
if you have done HAVO you can do HBO (collage kinda thing, way more practical and easier)
and after VMBO you can learn a profession
We have General, Regents and Honors/AP. Only Regents and Honors/AP grads have a shot at going to college.

This only applies to New York State. Every state is different.

they must be
in ohio it goes:
general
college prep
advanced college prep
honors
AP
even college prep go to college . .at my school anyway. which was private, but the cp/general people were still really stupid

2010-10-25 13:49:50

#6627

menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6707|Amsterdam‫

here it is 1-10 1= everything wrong 10= everything right you need a rounded 6 to pass

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2010-10-25 13:50:31

#6628

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6731

yeah we dont reward mediocrity and operate our education on an 'everyone wins and is special and great whee!' basis

i still kinda wtf at high-school 'graduations'

congrats you can do trigonometry, basketball and read of mice and men

not even worth the gown

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2010-10-25 13:51:37

#6629

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|6945|United States of America

Uzique wrote:
yeah we dont reward mediocrity and operate our education on an 'everyone wins and is special and great whee!' basis

i still kinda wtf at high-school 'graduations'

congrats you can do trigonometry, basketball and read of mice and men

not even worth the gown

You'd be surprised (actually, you wouldn't) at how many can't even do that.

2010-10-25 13:52:00

#6630

menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6707|Amsterdam‫

ppl call our it the sixes culture, why work harder when a 6 is enough.

2010-10-25 13:52:09

#6631

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6977

Uzique wrote:
yeah we dont reward mediocrity and operate our education on an 'everyone wins and is special and great whee!' basis

i still kinda wtf at high-school 'graduations'

congrats you can do trigonometry, basketball and read of mice and men

not even worth the gown

but but high school was so tough

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2010-10-25 13:52:10

#6632

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5619|London, England

Uzique wrote:
yeah we dont reward mediocrity and operate our education on an 'everyone wins and is special and great whee!' basis

i still kinda wtf at high-school 'graduations'

congrats you can do trigonometry, basketball and read of mice and men

not even worth the gown

Hey, trig was a pain in the ass. My teacher didn't let us use our calculators and made us memorize the proofs for everything

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-10-25 13:52:43

#6633

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5619|London, England

menzo wrote:
ppl call our it the sixes culture, why work harder when a 6 is enough.

That's pretty sad actually.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-10-25 13:53:35

#6634

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6977

JohnG@lt wrote:
menzo wrote:
ppl call our it the sixes culture, why work harder when a 6 is enough.
That's pretty sad actually.

in taiwan we got the strawberry generation aka kids who cant take pressure or criticism.

2010-10-25 13:53:53

#6635

menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6707|Amsterdam‫

but i almost feel uni is more of a privilege in the US with the absurd prices. What does a year of uni cost without rent for living on campus?

2010-10-25 13:55:30

#6636

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|6993|St. Andrews / Oslo

All my High School grades were achieved thanks to Wikipedia

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2010-10-25 13:55:58

#6637

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6977

menzo wrote:
but i almost feel uni is more of a privilege in the US with the absurd prices. What does a year of uni cost without rent for living on campus?

depends private or public and instate/outstate

UC(public) schools are like 11k a year for in state students while NYU (private) is 50k a year (blame cost of living in NYC) and most ivy leagues are around 40k.

2010-10-25 13:57:02

#6638

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|6945|United States of America

Like I said, we rely on memorizing --> regurgitating facts most of the time. In my Honors English and some other classes, our tests were often essays on novels/plays or other works we read, so if you didn't read and interpret it, you were screwed. Compare that to AP Biology (which to be fair, really helped in introductory bio courses in college) where you were memorizing types of amino acids and enzymatic mechanisms. At least my AP Chem teacher was excellent, and I still use stuff I learned 3 years ago so I can just cruise through sections of what we're learning.

2010-10-25 13:58:20

#6639

menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6707|Amsterdam‫

Cybargs wrote:
menzo wrote:
but i almost feel uni is more of a privilege in the US with the absurd prices. What does a year of uni cost without rent for living on campus?
depends private or public and instate/outstate

UC(public) schools are like 11k a year for in state students while NYU (private) is 50k a year (blame cost of living in NYC) and most ivy leagues are around 40k.

fucked up. every uni costs €1600 per year + ~400 for books
and you get 1200/year and free public transport from the govt the first 5 years of uni

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2010-10-25 13:58:42

#6640

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6731

Cybargs wrote:
menzo wrote:
but i almost feel uni is more of a privilege in the US with the absurd prices. What does a year of uni cost without rent for living on campus?
depends private or public and instate/outstate

UC(public) schools are like 11k a year for in state students while NYU (private) is 50k a year (blame cost of living in NYC) and most ivy leagues are around 40k.

it's sad that in britain there is an entire category of schools bigger than the ivy league that costs more than $40k a year

and that's for kids aged like 7-18

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2010-10-25 13:58:55

#6641

Morpheus: This shit still going?; +508|6260|The Mitten

JohnG@lt wrote:
menzo wrote:
ppl call our it the sixes culture, why work harder when a 6 is enough.
That's pretty sad actually.

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e: dammit.

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2010-10-25 13:59:17

#6642

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|6993|St. Andrews / Oslo

Do you have to pay 40k for the first year of university in the US?

If so, then that's ridiculous. It isn't even recognized as higher education in Norway, you're not even eligible for student-loans.

2010-10-25 13:59:22

#6643

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5619|London, England

menzo wrote:
but i almost feel uni is more of a privilege in the US with the absurd prices. What does a year of uni cost without rent for living on campus?

It depends on the state and the school. You have to stop thinking of the US as a giant monolith. The laws, the education systems, the taxes etc all change based on what state you are in.

In New York State, tuition at a state university or college is $2,485 per semester.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-10-25 13:59:25

#6644

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6798|Long Island, New York

Uzique wrote:
yeah we dont reward mediocrity and operate our education on an 'everyone wins and is special and great whee!' basis

i still kinda wtf at high-school 'graduations'

congrats you can do trigonometry, basketball and read of mice and men

not even worth the gown

Most people around here don't think High School is hard... it's just a relief to finally get out of the public education system after 12 years in it.

2010-10-25 13:59:50

#6645

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6977

Uzique wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
menzo wrote:
but i almost feel uni is more of a privilege in the US with the absurd prices. What does a year of uni cost without rent for living on campus?
depends private or public and instate/outstate

UC(public) schools are like 11k a year for in state students while NYU (private) is 50k a year (blame cost of living in NYC) and most ivy leagues are around 40k.
it's sad that in britain there is an entire category of schools bigger than the ivy league that costs more than $40k a year

and that's for kids aged like 7-18

those upper class "public" boarding schools right?

there are some private high schools in the states that costs just as much if not more than college.

2010-10-25 14:01:24

#6646

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6998|Cinncinatti

30000 where i go, private. 20000 for the nearby public uni.
but only ~5 people from my hs didnt go on to uni
community college are a lot cheaper

2010-10-25 14:03:07

#6647

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5619|London, England

Cybargs wrote:
Uzique wrote:
Cybargs wrote:

depends private or public and instate/outstate

UC(public) schools are like 11k a year for in state students while NYU (private) is 50k a year (blame cost of living in NYC) and most ivy leagues are around 40k.
it's sad that in britain there is an entire category of schools bigger than the ivy league that costs more than $40k a year

and that's for kids aged like 7-18
those upper class "public" boarding schools right?

there are some private high schools in the states that costs just as much if not more than college.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Academy

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-10-25 14:03:23

#6648

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6882|London, England

Poseidon wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Uzique wrote:
is law as a career path like it is in the uk where you have to go to the right schools, have the right prestige and visit a yacht club to get anywhere
No. To get into a top firm you do need to graduate near the top in a top law school. But in those firms you'll just end up slaving away for ten years working 80 hours a week as some partners lackey while praying you can make partner yourself one day. Outside of that, anything is possible.
You're not going to get the same opportunities going to Vermont Law School compared to going to American University Law School.

The problem is people want to graduate and then start at some top job. Nobody believes in career progression anymore. In this example, starting off at a small firm and just working your way up through the years will always be available to anyone. I guess it takes too much time and effort, people just accept that you have to have contacts and go to the top schools and get the top grades to get anywhere, top grades and top schools are are just shortcuts, not necessarily an absolute requirement.

It's like how in games you get people who buy DLC which unlocks everything from the beginning, then you have those which play the game and rank up and unlock everything that way.

2010-10-25 14:03:52

#6649

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5619|London, England

RTHKI wrote:
30000 where i go, private. 20000 for the nearby public uni.
but only ~5 people from my hs didnt go on to uni
community college are a lot cheaper

You're including room and board and stuff. Straight tuition I'm sure is a lot lower than $20k

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-10-25 14:04:39

#6650

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6731

Cybargs wrote:
Uzique wrote:
Cybargs wrote:

depends private or public and instate/outstate

UC(public) schools are like 11k a year for in state students while NYU (private) is 50k a year (blame cost of living in NYC) and most ivy leagues are around 40k.
it's sad that in britain there is an entire category of schools bigger than the ivy league that costs more than $40k a year

and that's for kids aged like 7-18
those upper class "public" boarding schools right?

there are some private high schools in the states that costs just as much if not more than college.

yeah they are called public schools because that was their original name... dunno why the quotation marks

and the point is that at public school you network and chum in little societies and groups that will later be all the public service and politicians

in america the prep school boys just go to the city and become patrick bateman

much bigger social and cultural importance in the UK. class doesn't really matter in america: everyone's cozy and middle

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