Poseidon
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11 Bravo wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

I've got money on the Jets so lets hope they pull it off.
what in gods name would provoke you to put money on the jets?  they are fools gold.  srsly stop watching espn or listening to pussydon.


inb4pussydonclevelandsucksblahblah
i just think it's funny you rag on the jets when your city is probably one of the worst cities for sports ever

those in glass houses...

Last edited by Poseidon (2010-12-07 09:27:12)

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Poseidon wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

I've got money on the Jets so lets hope they pull it off.
what in gods name would provoke you to put money on the jets?  they are fools gold.  srsly stop watching espn or listening to pussydon.


inb4pussydonclevelandsucksblahblah
i just think it's funny you rag on the jets when your city is probably one of the worst cities for sports ever

those in glass houses...
once again that has nothing to do with the jets...

or nothing to do with you thinking sanchez is elite.....

and glass house? well by that logic your jets suck also (last superbowl?) so your opinion on anything is pointless?
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11 Bravo wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

what in gods name would provoke you to put money on the jets?  they are fools gold.  srsly stop watching espn or listening to pussydon.


inb4pussydonclevelandsucksblahblah
i just think it's funny you rag on the jets when your city is probably one of the worst cities for sports ever

those in glass houses...
once again that has nothing to do with the jets...

or nothing to do with you thinking sanchez is elite.....

and glass house? well by that logic your jets suck also (last superbowl?) so your opinion on anything is pointless?
at least there is a super bowl in our history...your city is the epitome of sports fail

what do you mean it has nothing to do with the jets? you, a fan of one of the worst teams in the history of the NFL, are ragging on the Jets for being 9-3 and having one terrible game. it's funny

anyone who's watched sanchez play this season knows he's been stellar/elite/solid (whatever word choice you wanna choose for "great"). i wouldn't expect a troll to know that though

Last edited by Poseidon (2010-12-07 15:12:27)

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His opinion of the Jets has nothing to do with him being a fan of Cleveland teams.  Wrap your mind around that.  Seems like most arguments you get in you try to get personal but it really just makes you come across as a whiny little douche. 

Sanchez hasn't been an elite qb all year.  He's had his moments for sure, but don't let your love of your team cloud objectively looking at the fact that he has a QB rating of below 80.  Not sure where exactly that puts him, but it's definitely not elite.  Or solid. Or stellar.
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

His opinion of the Jets has nothing to do with him being a fan of Cleveland teams.  Wrap your mind around that.  Seems like most arguments you get in you try to get personal but it really just makes you come across as a whiny little douche. 

Sanchez hasn't been an elite qb all year.  He's had his moments for sure, but don't let your love of your team cloud objectively looking at the fact that he has a QB rating of below 80.  Not sure where exactly that puts him, but it's definitely not elite.  Or solid. Or stellar.
lmfao, ken calling someone else a douche. My point was that he rags on the Jets while his own team is dismal. That's like me, as an Islanders fan, saying the Wings suck. it makes no sense because I have no ground to stand on.

Is he as good as brady? Absolutely not. Is he a good QB who's only going to get better? Absolutely. Only people who haven't watched him in action or only watched him last night would say he's not a good QB. Really ken, how many Jets games have you watched compared to me? it has absolutely nothing to do with my love of the Jets, I can admit when a player sucks and when they don't. Braylon Edwards? Has his moments, but overall is a pass dropping behemoth. Cromartie? Fucking awful. Eric Smith? Don't get me started. But yeah, not saying "sanchez sucks looool" means my judgment of Sanchez is wrong.

thanks for the laugh m80, your logic is fucking astounding once again

Last edited by Poseidon (2010-12-07 16:22:04)

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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

His opinion of the Jets has nothing to do with him being a fan of Cleveland teams.  Wrap your mind around that.  Seems like most arguments you get in you try to get personal but it really just makes you come across as a whiny little douche. 

Sanchez hasn't been an elite qb all year.  He's had his moments for sure, but don't let your love of your team cloud objectively looking at the fact that he has a QB rating of below 80.  Not sure where exactly that puts him, but it's definitely not elite.  Or solid. Or stellar.
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Poseidon wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

His opinion of the Jets has nothing to do with him being a fan of Cleveland teams.  Wrap your mind around that.  Seems like most arguments you get in you try to get personal but it really just makes you come across as a whiny little douche. 

Sanchez hasn't been an elite qb all year.  He's had his moments for sure, but don't let your love of your team cloud objectively looking at the fact that he has a QB rating of below 80.  Not sure where exactly that puts him, but it's definitely not elite.  Or solid. Or stellar.
lmfao, ken calling someone else a douche. My point was that he rags on the Jets while his own team is dismal. That's like me, as an Islanders fan, saying the Wings suck. it makes no sense because I have no ground to stand on.

Is he as good as brady? Absolutely not. Is he a good QB who's only going to get better? Absolutely. Only people who haven't watched him in action or only watched him last night would say he's not a good QB. Really ken, how many Jets games have you watched compared to me? it has absolutely nothing to do with my love of the Jets, I can admit when a player sucks and when they don't. Braylon Edwards? Has his moments, but overall is a pass dropping behemoth. Cromartie? Fucking awful. Eric Smith? Don't get me started. But yeah, not saying "sanchez sucks looool" means my judgment of Sanchez is wrong.

thanks for the laugh m80, your logic is fucking astounding once again
So what that he rags on the Jets?  So what that his team is dismal?  He's not allowed to rag on another team because the team he roots for sucks?  That's just retarded logic dude.

Poseidon wrote:

That's like me, as an Islanders fan, saying the Wings suck. it makes no sense because I have no ground to stand on.
It makes no sense because THE REDWINGS DON'T SUCK.  It has nothing whatsoever to do with what team you root for, unless you were to say, "Compared to the Islanders the Redwings suck."

As far as a "solid", elite", or "stellar" qb, unfortunately upside (ie. "he's only going to get better") means absolutely nothing.  I think I've seen maybe 4 or 5 Jets games this season for what it's worth.  I never said Sanchez sucks. I'm simply refuting your statement that he is a stellar, elite, or solid QB - because he isn't.  His QB rating is far lower than the league average.  Sure, stats can only record so much but it's a fairly good barometer (and one most analysts use) on how good a player is vs. his peers.

One of us is coming across as a whiny little brat in this discussion.  Guess who?
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11 Bravo?
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burnzz wrote:

11 Bravo?
utah doesnt have a football team go away
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He's a Raiders fan, his word is gold around here.  See three posts up for confirmation.
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ill bet you 5 bucks the raiders get albert haynsworth
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

His opinion of the Jets has nothing to do with him being a fan of Cleveland teams.  Wrap your mind around that.  Seems like most arguments you get in you try to get personal but it really just makes you come across as a whiny little douche. 

Sanchez hasn't been an elite qb all year.  He's had his moments for sure, but don't let your love of your team cloud objectively looking at the fact that he has a QB rating of below 80.  Not sure where exactly that puts him, but it's definitely not elite.  Or solid. Or stellar.
lmfao, ken calling someone else a douche. My point was that he rags on the Jets while his own team is dismal. That's like me, as an Islanders fan, saying the Wings suck. it makes no sense because I have no ground to stand on.

Is he as good as brady? Absolutely not. Is he a good QB who's only going to get better? Absolutely. Only people who haven't watched him in action or only watched him last night would say he's not a good QB. Really ken, how many Jets games have you watched compared to me? it has absolutely nothing to do with my love of the Jets, I can admit when a player sucks and when they don't. Braylon Edwards? Has his moments, but overall is a pass dropping behemoth. Cromartie? Fucking awful. Eric Smith? Don't get me started. But yeah, not saying "sanchez sucks looool" means my judgment of Sanchez is wrong.

thanks for the laugh m80, your logic is fucking astounding once again
So what that he rags on the Jets?  So what that his team is dismal?  He's not allowed to rag on another team because the team he roots for sucks?  That's just retarded logic dude.

Poseidon wrote:

That's like me, as an Islanders fan, saying the Wings suck. it makes no sense because I have no ground to stand on.
It makes no sense because THE REDWINGS DON'T SUCK.  It has nothing whatsoever to do with what team you root for, unless you were to say, "Compared to the Islanders the Redwings suck."

As far as a "solid", elite", or "stellar" qb, unfortunately upside (ie. "he's only going to get better") means absolutely nothing.  I think I've seen maybe 4 or 5 Jets games this season for what it's worth.  I never said Sanchez sucks. I'm simply refuting your statement that he is a stellar, elite, or solid QB - because he isn't.  His QB rating is far lower than the league average.  Sure, stats can only record so much but it's a fairly good barometer (and one most analysts use) on how good a player is vs. his peers.

One of us is coming across as a whiny little brat in this discussion.  Guess who?
in the end you're just fucking stupid tbh...anyone who relies on stats and not watching the games or seeing how someone plays doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about

if you'd really watched even 4-5 jets games the whole way through, you wouldn't be saying anything.

you're an older version of blademaster

Last edited by Poseidon (2010-12-07 17:11:01)

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11 Bravo wrote:

ill bet you 5 bucks the raiders get albert haynsworth
why, did he win the Heisman?

i've been to more NFL games than you son, so GET OFF MY LAWN!
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burnzz wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

ill bet you 5 bucks the raiders get albert haynsworth
why, did he win the Heisman?

i've been to more NFL games than you son, so GET OFF MY LAWN!
hmmm.....

not sure aboot that. well maybe.  but, bet i have been kicked out of more stadiums than you.
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Opp.      Result         cmp   att    yds.  cmp%   lg    td  int    rating

1 BAL      L 10-9          10  21      74    47.6     13   0    0     56.4
2 NE       W 28-14        21  30     220   70.0     39   3    0   124.3 
3 @MIA   W 31-23        15  28     256   53.6     67   3    0   120.5
4 @BUF   W 38-14         14  24    161   58.3     41   2    0   106.4
5 MIN     W 29-20         21  44    191    47.7     31   0    0    59.9
6 @DEN  W 24-20         17  30    198    56.7     41   1    2    60.1
7 Bye     Week
8 GB       L 9-0             16  38    256    42.1     49   0   2     43.3
9 @DET   W 23-20 (OT) 22  39    336    56.4     74   1   1     82.9 
10 @CLE  W 26-20 (OT) 27  44   299     61.4     37   2   1    87.2
11 HOU   W 30-27         22  38   315     57.9     42   3   1   100.2
12 CIN    W 26-10         16  28   166     57.1     23   1   1    71.4 
13 @NE    L 45-3           17  33   164     51.5     24   0   3    27.8
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ok but really someone needs to explain why damn near every cleveland game is decided in the last few minutes
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Because they are on the cusp of becoming real good. Need a QB just like the Jets. What they have holds them back.
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whatever you say Poseidon.  Sanchez 4 MVP 2010!
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

whatever you say Poseidon.  Sanchez 4 MVP 2010!
nah man, rodgers
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I get it now.  Sanchez is an elite QB masquerading as an average QB.  It all makes sense now.  I guess I just needed to watch all the games to understand this stuff.
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I get it now.  Sanchez is an elite QB masquerading as an average QB.  It all makes sense now.  I guess I just needed to watch all the games to understand this stuff.
yeah man, 3 shitty games = horrible quarterback... it's such sound logic!

peyton manning is also fucking awful!

Last edited by Poseidon (2010-12-07 18:00:06)

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Poseidon wrote:

yeah man, 3 shitty games = horrible quarterback... it's such sound logic!
what a coincidence! the Raiders' QB had three games too!
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Poseidon wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I get it now.  Sanchez is an elite QB masquerading as an average QB.  It all makes sense now.  I guess I just needed to watch all the games to understand this stuff.
yeah man, 3 shitty games = horrible quarterback... it's such sound logic!

peyton manning is also fucking awful!
Peyton Manning is playing like crap this season.  He's an elite QB (because he's had a solid 10 years as a top 5 QB), but definitely not this year.
Poseidon
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So Sanchez plays incredible against Miami, New England, Texas, Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo and even arguably Minnesota (anyone who was watching would know it was fucking pouring and most throws he made were only not caught because of conditions) and because he has bad games against New England (2nd time) and Green Bay, he's "average". And the Baltimore game was lost solely because of Schottenheimer and his inability to know what the fuck he's doing.

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