BF2S Forums Tuition Fees - Standardised? Privatised?

DesertFox- wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Ilocano wrote:

Except not everyone pays the same amount.  Like Mello Roos.  Same benefits, amenities, school, etc.  But the guy with the more expensive property pays more.

But that just makes sense. He clearly uses the roads and schools more because he's wealthy. He clearly uses the police and firefighters services more often. Punish the successful guy and bring him down to our level. That'll show him not to try to be better than anyone else.

If he's so much better than all the other people, he should welcome a handicap. That will make it feel even better when he makes money in the future.

Make him wear a mask, carry around heavy weights and have his brain disrupted every so often with loud noises. That'll show him. Make him more normal. Turquoise, Shahter and uzique can take turns being Handicapper in Chief.

JohnG@lt wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

But that just makes sense. He clearly uses the roads and schools more because he's wealthy. He clearly uses the police and firefighters services more often. Punish the successful guy and bring him down to our level. That'll show him not to try to be better than anyone else.

If he's so much better than all the other people, he should welcome a handicap. That will make it feel even better when he makes money in the future.

Make him wear a mask, carry around heavy weights and have his brain disrupted every so often with loud noises. That'll show him. Make him more normal. Turquoise, Shahter and uzique can take turns being Handicapper in Chief.

I remember reading that short story back in 8th grade. I remember the Handicapper in chief kills all the dancers in the end.

Macbeth wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

If he's so much better than all the other people, he should welcome a handicap. That will make it feel even better when he makes money in the future.

Make him wear a mask, carry around heavy weights and have his brain disrupted every so often with loud noises. That'll show him. Make him more normal. Turquoise, Shahter and uzique can take turns being Handicapper in Chief.

I remember reading that short story back in 8th grade. I remember the Handicapper in chief kills all the dancers in the end.

It's a sad ending for sure. But hey, everyone ends up equal.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

So the guy with average grades and rich parents should have more right to tertiary education than someone from a broken home who's struggled all their life and is an A grade student? Doesn't seem fair to me.

Fair? If they have an A average they get a scholarship do they not?

no

Ilocano wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

So the guy with average grades and rich parents should have more right to tertiary education than someone from a broken home who's struggled all their life and is an A grade student? Doesn't seem fair to me.

So, work your ass off and sacrifice for the next two generations.  That's how the Asians do it.  That Asian who used to work as a bus boy or maid has grand children who are doctors and lawyers.

Funny, my grandparents did the same thing for their kids and grandkids. It's not unique to Asians, it's called having your priorities in line. Life isn't me me me me me me and then leaving the leftovers for your accidental children.

DrunkFace wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

So the guy with average grades and rich parents should have more right to tertiary education than someone from a broken home who's struggled all their life and is an A grade student? Doesn't seem fair to me.

Fair? If they have an A average they get a scholarship do they not?

no

Like I said before, if you are poor and have awsm grades, in the U.S., you'll get scholarships thrown at you.

JohnG@lt wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Fair? If they have an A average they get a scholarship do they not?

no

So then change that system. As Macbeth said, our education might be expensive in the US as a whole, but merit based scholarships are handed out like water.

Here you just get the privilege of actually enrolling in a course you might want to do at the university of your choice.

11 Bravo wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

So then change that system. As Macbeth said, our education might be expensive in the US as a whole, but merit based scholarships are handed out like water.

Here you just get the privilege of actually enrolling in a course you might want to do at the university of your choice.

yes but you guys are racist and dont let people into your country

DrunkFace wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

no

So then change that system. As Macbeth said, our education might be expensive in the US as a whole, but merit based scholarships are handed out like water.

Here you just get the privilege of actually enrolling in a course you might want to do at the university of your choice.

And that's different how?

Seems that this is the way its going to be. The protests were completely pointless in the first place, they were never going to achieve anything and anyone believing otherwise is an idiot.
The thing that's worst about this is how it's going to affect the average student: those who try hard and do well at exams, with average earning parents. At the moment it costs around £7000 a year for a university to educate one student, of which the student pays £3200 and the rest is from university research and government funding.
With the cuts to the universities this cost is going to go up, and the student is going to be expected to pay more.
£9000 a year isn't going to be for exceptional universities, it's going to be the norm. This combined with accommodation and living fees is going to equal a lot of debt, for example, the accommodation for the university I want to go to is £6500 a year, stick travel (subsidiaries are also being cut) and other expenses on top of that and it adds up to a hell of a lot.

The thing about scholarships wont work. With the funding cuts, a lot of universities will have to cut scholarships.

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11 Bravo wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

And that's different how?

It doesn't matter what uni you go to or what course you take it costs the same.

once again so what?  one state here has more people than your country.

Actually 2 do.... which means 48 don't.

Uzique wrote:

Ilocano wrote:

I'm with G@lt here. 

Can't afford the fees?  Blame your parents for not providing enough, or get a fuck'in job to pay for it.

Visited one of the prep schools I'm considering for my son.  Paltry merit scholarships, and even then, significant sacrifices to maintain them.  But then, tons of needs scholarship.  Fuck that!!!

what does a shitty prep school have to do with anything? and isn't it ironic that you complain about costs straight after encouraging the parents to cough up? oooookay. i think the students are angry that the good principle of our education-accessibility is being sacrificed as part of austere financial measures that have NOTHING to do with the student population. why are we paying for the older generation's foolish mistakes and avarice?

Which is why California's tier system works.  Community college (trade), CSU (State University), UC (University - can't really say how to differentiate it from a CSU other than cost though.  ).  Albeit these days, there are some relatively excellent CSU's and so so UC's.

Want to do photography.  Go Community college that even a minimum wager can afford.  Hell, I know of at least one CC that has a reputation for an excellent photography program.

Edit: ok, it's been years, but I don't recall CSU offering doctorates.