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2010-12-11 16:14:05
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6974|Riva, MD
Or does it have to be a wireless router?

Getting it for my friend who got Comcast installed in his new apartment but there's nothing hooked up to the modem and all he has is a PS3 in the living room but the modem is in his room.

It's also a single port modem if that matters.  I'm just wondering if there needs to be some sort of router in the line somewhere.
2010-12-11 16:28:15
alexb
<3
+590|6197|Kentucky, USA

_j5689_ wrote:

Or does it have to be a wireless router?

Getting it for my friend who got Comcast installed in his new apartment but there's nothing hooked up to the modem and all he has is a PS3 in the living room but the modem is in his room.

It's also a single port modem if that matters.  I'm just wondering if there needs to be some sort of router in the line somewhere.
Of course. Something like this will do the job. Just wire the modem into the connection on the router labeled "Internet", and set the WiFi up with a password.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6833127215

Last edited by alexb (2010-12-11 16:28:24)

2010-12-11 16:36:44
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6974|Riva, MD

alexb wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

Or does it have to be a wireless router?

Getting it for my friend who got Comcast installed in his new apartment but there's nothing hooked up to the modem and all he has is a PS3 in the living room but the modem is in his room.

It's also a single port modem if that matters.  I'm just wondering if there needs to be some sort of router in the line somewhere.
Of course. Something like this will do the job. Just wire the modem into the connection on the router labeled "Internet", and set the WiFi up with a password.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6833127215
Damn, that's a good price, but it's like right at his limit.  I'll run it by him though.

But when I googled this topic I also saw this:

http://www.wirelessforums.org/193963-post2.html

It looks like he's saying that if the modem doesn't have routing capability, which I am assuming it doesn't based on the single ethernet port, then the access point will only be able to handle one wireless connection at a time, and I'd like the ability for the AP to be able to support multiple wireless devices so I can use my iPod over there and stuff.

Perhaps I should just get a wireless router instead, they're about the same price I'd imagine.

Edit: Hurr durr, you linked me to one, lol

Last edited by _j5689_ (2010-12-11 16:41:53)

2010-12-11 16:48:19
TheDonkey
Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt
+163|5975|Vancouver, BC, Canada
TL;DR, Get a router.




If you have just a wireless AP, then you can plug it directly into the modem and connect one client for sure, the AP requests an IP from the Modem/ISP and your (wireless) device will connect just as if it were on a cable to the modem.

I'm not sure about Comcast, but here on Shaw, you can call and ask for a second IP to be added to your account for free. So if you were to call, you would get two IP's thus two clients at a time (Assuming Comcast allows this)

If you were to get a router, it gets around that issue by hosting its own IP (DHCP) server within your house/network with a large number of internal IP's, and the router just shows up as a single client to the modem/ISP.

Last edited by TheDonkey (2010-12-11 16:50:38)

2010-12-11 16:51:09
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6696|King Of The Islands

In Aus we are majority ADSL, and the routers typically don't work (the routers have PPPoE/ADSL settings in them, but the modems we use aren't "dumb units", so they're incompatible with the "Internet" plug).
Instead we turn off DHCP in the router and basically turn it into a glorified switch. Just remember the IP you set the router to if you need to config the Wifi.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
2010-12-11 16:54:21
TheDonkey
Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt
+163|5975|Vancouver, BC, Canada

Cheez wrote:

In Aus we are majority ADSL, and the routers typically don't work (the routers have PPPoE/ADSL settings in them, but the modems we use aren't "dumb units", so they're incompatible with the "Internet" plug).
Instead we turn off DHCP in the router and basically turn it into a glorified switch. Just remember the IP you set the router to if you need to config the Wifi.
Unrelated: Which routers do you use? Whenever I've tried to turn off DHCP on linksys routers, something about the firmware makes the WIFI crash. (It still shows up, but it's impossible to connect to, with anything from a timeout error to a wrong passcode to "I dunno, lol")
2010-12-11 17:01:18
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6974|Riva, MD

TheDonkey wrote:

TL;DR, Get a router.




If you have just a wireless AP, then you can plug it directly into the modem and connect one client for sure, the AP requests an IP from the Modem/ISP and your (wireless) device will connect just as if it were on a cable to the modem.

I'm not sure about Comcast, but here on Shaw, you can call and ask for a second IP to be added to your account for free. So if you were to call, you would get two IP's thus two clients at a time (Assuming Comcast allows this)

If you were to get a router, it gets around that issue by hosting its own IP (DHCP) server within your house/network with a large number of internal IP's, and the router just shows up as a single client to the modem/ISP.
Ah, that all makes sense.  I'm so used to having the modem/wireless router integrated because of having FiOS for so long so I never learned it the "modem-to-router" way.

If his budget were bigger, I'd get this for him, it's pretty much just like the FiOS ones, integrated everything including wireless N, and before anyone corrects me, the MI424WRs that Verizon uses do come with N in the later revisions, I have one of them

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6825122014

I've also heard that you have to call Comcast too to release the lease on the old modem which would be annoying, on FiOS you can just do it in the modem/router menu all by yourself, as it should be.
2010-12-11 17:23:00
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6696|King Of The Islands

TheDonkey wrote:

Cheez wrote:

In Aus we are majority ADSL, and the routers typically don't work (the routers have PPPoE/ADSL settings in them, but the modems we use aren't "dumb units", so they're incompatible with the "Internet" plug).
Instead we turn off DHCP in the router and basically turn it into a glorified switch. Just remember the IP you set the router to if you need to config the Wifi.
Unrelated: Which routers do you use? Whenever I've tried to turn off DHCP on linksys routers, something about the firmware makes the WIFI crash. (It still shows up, but it's impossible to connect to, with anything from a timeout error to a wrong passcode to "I dunno, lol")
I currently use Netgear WNR1000/WNR2000/whatever I get in. They all seem to work.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
2010-12-15 18:29:17
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6974|Riva, MD

alexb wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

Or does it have to be a wireless router?

Getting it for my friend who got Comcast installed in his new apartment but there's nothing hooked up to the modem and all he has is a PS3 in the living room but the modem is in his room.

It's also a single port modem if that matters.  I'm just wondering if there needs to be some sort of router in the line somewhere.
Of course. Something like this will do the job. Just wire the modem into the connection on the router labeled "Internet", and set the WiFi up with a password.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6833127215
I ordered this one on Monday and it came on Tuesday, lol.  Gotta love Newegg free shipping from New Jersey.

I pre-configured it a couple hours ago from my own network with WPA2 and AES encryption since I've read that the PS3 has trouble doing both AES and TKIP at the same time.

I'm sure performance will be fine anyway, but should I bother port-forwarding for the PS3 or just leave it?

 

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