You're doing it wrong. You're supposed to fit Jafar Panahi into your response somehow.eleven bravo wrote:
what a shockerTurquoise wrote:
No argument here...
Do you disagree with me?eleven bravo wrote:
what a shockerTurquoise wrote:
No argument here...
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
surprised... you... could... read... it... you... don't... realize... that... most... of... them... work... of... the... books...JohnG@lt wrote:
Hey Turquoise? I can't make this any plainer. I'll talk slowly...Turquoise wrote:
That sends the wrong message though. By accounting for illegals in budgets, you make it easier for states to ignore this problem rather than encouraging them to solve it.OrangeHound wrote:
The census is used for more than just voting districts and representation. It is also used to determine Federal distribution of resources: where to spend money for schools, housing, health care, job training, economic development and more – more than $400 billion a year by the federal government alone.
Illegal immigrants use schools, health care, highways, libraries, etc. So, counting illegals immigrants can account for the proportional share of how resources are actually used.
Until states truly feel the pain of having a large group of people within them that doesn't properly pay for services rendered, the costs just get passed to taxpaying citizens. The people of states without many illegals shouldn't have to shoulder the burden of states that don't attempt to remove their illegals.
Illegals... pay... more... in... taxes... than... legal...citizens...since...they...can't...ask...for...a...tax...return...
Ever calculate what the Refund is on someone make approx. Minimum wage you self important J@rk ?
Not that having some Illegal steal your identity and ruin your Credit / Life is a big win.
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Perhaps not income tax (which does directly relate to a return), but they do pay taxes in virtually every other way. In fact, at least half the legal population doesn't pay anything in the way of income taxes.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
At least 50% don't work... what's your point?Kmar wrote:
Perhaps not income tax (which does directly relate to a return), but they do pay taxes in virtually every other way. In fact, at least half the legal population doesn't pay anything in the way of income taxes.
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Income Taxes are paid for mostly by the upper class. My point is that the people I usually see complaining about what illegals do or don't pay in taxes generally aren't paying much in taxes themselves. I thought that was obvious.DrunkFace wrote:
At least 50% don't work... what's your point?Kmar wrote:
Perhaps not income tax (which does directly relate to a return), but they do pay taxes in virtually every other way. In fact, at least half the legal population doesn't pay anything in the way of income taxes.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
it is ! but they strain the system in every way imaginable and their illegal. What do we tell the people we want who enter correctly. Also coddling them sends a clear message to the next wave. We are importing poverty in a clear effort to stack the elections. For the record I all ways had the Government take something even when I was working and in school. Its my country and I have a say in how its run... or at least I have a say. It doesn't matter if you poor your voice should be heard as a Citizen. Who are you one of the Hunt brothers lol ? Go islam !Kmar wrote:
Income Taxes are paid for mostly by the upper class. My point is that the people I usually see complaining about what illegals do or don't pay in taxes generally aren't paying much in taxes themselves. I thought that was obvious.DrunkFace wrote:
At least 50% don't work... what's your point?Kmar wrote:
Perhaps not income tax (which does directly relate to a return), but they do pay taxes in virtually every other way. In fact, at least half the legal population doesn't pay anything in the way of income taxes.
Can we trash Christians now ?
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Jesus man, you're all over the place. I think you made an assumption that is far from the truth. I do not support illegal immigration. You're such an antagonist that you rant on against people that don't necessarily disagree with you. To be perfectly honest, you're coming off a little unstable. I had a simple observation.. there is a bit of hypocrisy that is inescapable.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
its atg. atg is unstable.Kmar wrote:
Jesus man, you're all over the place. I think you made an assumption that is far from the truth. I do not support illegal immigration. You're such an antagonist that you rant on against people that don't necessarily disagree with you. To be perfectly honest, you're coming off a little unstable. I had a simple observation.. there is a bit of hypocrisy that is inescapable.
They are poor, but they do not "strain" the welfare systems of the United States. Illegal immigrants don't get food stamps, TANF, welfare from the IRS, or welfare from HHS or local governments.Hunter/Jumper wrote:
... but they strain the system in every way imaginable and their illegal ... also coddling them sends a clear message to the next wave. We are importing poverty ...
If they are unable to support themselves, you know what they do? They go back to their country.
just where were you antagonized ? ( cut n paste please) I meant no insult. Maybe reread the post with a pleasant voice and no inflections, ExampleKmar wrote:
Jesus man, you're all over the place. I think you made an assumption that is far from the truth. I do not support illegal immigration. You're such an antagonist that you rant on against people that don't necessarily disagree with you. To be perfectly honest, you're coming off a little unstable. I had a simple observation.. there is a bit of hypocrisy that is inescapable.
I' thought you would drive to Chicago.
I thought' you would drive to Chicago.
I thought you' would drive to Chicago
I thought you would' drive to Chicago.
I thought you would drive' to Chicago.
I thought you would drive to' Chicago.
I thought you would drive to Chicago'.
same sentence, 7 different meanings. you get it. ignore 5.5 bozo - Joe J@rk has stopped taking him for walks.
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no basis in the facts ~ they get all of the above. just not legally, not on the record. They are infused in the system more than we can keep track of.OrangeHound wrote:
They are poor, but they do not "strain" the welfare systems of the United States. Illegal immigrants don't get food stamps, TANF, welfare from the IRS, or welfare from HHS or local governments.Hunter/Jumper wrote:
... but they strain the system in every way imaginable and their illegal ... also coddling them sends a clear message to the next wave. We are importing poverty ...
If they are unable to support themselves, you know what they do? They go back to their country.
keep calling me a bozo you fucking twat
oh yea - Oh Yea !11 Bravo wrote:
keep calling me a bozo you fucking twat
keep cool jus funnin son jus funnin sorry !
now it's time for your walk...
i like walking
Merry Christmas dude and Have a good one !
Well, on the other hand, the upper class has the vast majority of wealth. Of course, they're going to pay the majority of taxes. That's true of most industrialized nations.Kmar wrote:
Income Taxes are paid for mostly by the upper class. My point is that the people I usually see complaining about what illegals do or don't pay in taxes generally aren't paying much in taxes themselves. I thought that was obvious.DrunkFace wrote:
At least 50% don't work... what's your point?Kmar wrote:
Perhaps not income tax (which does directly relate to a return), but they do pay taxes in virtually every other way. In fact, at least half the legal population doesn't pay anything in the way of income taxes.
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...or work for cartels...OrangeHound wrote:
If they are unable to support themselves, you know what they do? They go back to their country.
Bold statement, better be able to back it up.Turquoise wrote:
...or work for cartels...OrangeHound wrote:
If they are unable to support themselves, you know what they do? They go back to their country.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
I'm not saying all of them do. It's just one of those things that happens. Sometimes, a guy in the ghetto turns to selling drugs because he's down on his luck and can't get a legit job. The same happens with illegals.UnkleRukus wrote:
Bold statement, better be able to back it up.Turquoise wrote:
...or work for cartels...OrangeHound wrote:
If they are unable to support themselves, you know what they do? They go back to their country.
Situations dictate behavior, that's all.
You still don't have any proof to backup your statement. so I'm inclined to think you have no idea what you are talking about, as usual.Turquoise wrote:
I'm not saying all of them do. It's just one of those things that happens. Sometimes, a guy in the ghetto turns to selling drugs because he's down on his luck and can't get a legit job. The same happens with illegals.UnkleRukus wrote:
Bold statement, better be able to back it up.Turquoise wrote:
...or work for cartels...
Situations dictate behavior, that's all.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
You have such a pleasant demeanor.UnkleRukus wrote:
You still don't have any proof to backup your statement. so I'm inclined to think you have no idea what you are talking about, as usual.Turquoise wrote:
I'm not saying all of them do. It's just one of those things that happens. Sometimes, a guy in the ghetto turns to selling drugs because he's down on his luck and can't get a legit job. The same happens with illegals.UnkleRukus wrote:
Bold statement, better be able to back it up.
Situations dictate behavior, that's all.
Look dude, In these couple of threads I've experienced you in, not once have you posted anything to back up your claims.Turquoise wrote:
You have such a pleasant demeanor.UnkleRukus wrote:
You still don't have any proof to backup your statement. so I'm inclined to think you have no idea what you are talking about, as usual.Turquoise wrote:
I'm not saying all of them do. It's just one of those things that happens. Sometimes, a guy in the ghetto turns to selling drugs because he's down on his luck and can't get a legit job. The same happens with illegals.
Situations dictate behavior, that's all.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
Do you believe people turn to crime because they enjoy it, or do you think it's more out of desperation?UnkleRukus wrote:
Look dude, In these couple of threads I've experienced you in, not once have you posted anything to back up your claims.Turquoise wrote:
You have such a pleasant demeanor.UnkleRukus wrote:
You still don't have any proof to backup your statement. so I'm inclined to think you have no idea what you are talking about, as usual.