Golden Homeless Voice

2011-01-07 22:21:58

#101

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6992|132 and Bush

You have to submit to defeat .. which is very tough for us humans to do. Until you submit you can not acknowledge the power it has over you. Until you acknowledge it you can not begin to take your life back.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-01-07 22:25:32

#102

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6888

Insanity is doing things over, and over, expecting different results.

this thread has been quite the barometer, for me. not just of the forum members, but of myself too.

2011-01-07 22:31:02

#103

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6929|Long Island, New York

Uzique wrote:
do past drug addicts consider themselves as being in a state of 'recovery' all their lives? never really thought about that

seeing as drug-abuse is a potential risk and a temptation for everybody, in the right situation

i guess you'll never 'recover'

I dunno if it's a self title, but as far as I'm aware, AA always considers people "recovering". My mom has a good friend up near Albany who's been clean for 8 years, but he still titles himself as a "recovering alcoholic".

2011-01-07 22:31:34

#104

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6992|132 and Bush

True, unfortunately rationale-sanity is severely affected by alcohol and drugs.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-01-07 22:59:40

#105

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6929|Long Island, New York

2011-01-07 23:02:00

#106

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6544|what

Poseidon wrote:
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2011-01-07 23:02:58

#107

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6992|132 and Bush

Do you know what a pukey radio voice is?

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-01-08 01:30:28

#108

lowing: Banned; +1,662|7042|USA

Kmar wrote:
You really can't compare cigarettes to drug and alcohol abuse. Every substance has a purpose. Cigarettes aren't going to give a thirty minute feel good high. The reasons people get addicted varies. We are biochemically unique, as are our life circumstances. That is why I hate it when people instantly judge others. Truthfully they have no idea. It's a sickening arrogance.

Whats arrogant about being prejudiced against a crack head? The crack head was not addicted to crack BEFORE he starting doing it. It should have been very easy to say no and walk away from drugs before you take them and get addicted. Some people don't. I have no problem judging these idiots. I also have no problem letting them swirl down the toilet that they conscientiously, purposefully and deliberately flushed.

Regarding the guy in the OP, I wouldn't give 2 shits if he stayed homeless the rest of his life, however, he owned up to his shit head decisions and took steps to correct them, so I say good for him and welcome him back into society. I hope it works out well for him. Will never change the fact that at one point in his life, he was a dumb fuck.

Make your decision and live with the rewards or consequences, don't force the rest of us to live with them with you. You would not want me sharing in YOUR lottery winnings, why am I supposed to want to share in YOUR misery by your own hand? I am not an interventionist, I am a personal responsibility-ist and yes, you will be judged on the obvious and blatant, dumb fuck decisions that you make.

2011-01-08 01:37:47

#109

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6992|132 and Bush

Arrogant is pretending to know the physiology of something you have never experienced. I'm not talking about the free choices they made prior to addiction.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-01-08 01:41:47

#110

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6992|132 and Bush

Btw welcome back lowing. We knew you wouldn't be gone long. Maybe you DO understand the powers or addiction..

Lol

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-01-08 01:52:58

#111

lowing: Banned; +1,662|7042|USA

Kmar wrote:
Arrogant is pretending to know the physiology of something you have never experienced. I'm not talking about the free choices they made prior to addiction.

got it. Then I shall step off the soap box

2011-01-08 01:56:56

#112

lowing: Banned; +1,662|7042|USA

Kmar wrote:
Btw welcome back lowing. We knew you wouldn't be gone long. Maybe you DO understand the powers or addiction..

Lol

Now come on, if I stayed gone for 2 years and then posted, you would still be saying, " we knew you wouldn't be gone long".

Kinda like Christians spouting off about how the worlds going to end, and the one day when the world ends, they will be the first to say, see I told you so, proof we were right!!!

2011-01-08 03:33:31

#113

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6862

i can't understand addiction to cigarettes or alcohol, really... i mean the buzz isn't even that great. alcoholism to me has always seemed like a grim form of masochism, an addiction involving overt self-harm as much as a dependency on a chemical... everytime you drink to excess you get so so so sick! at least with things like cocaine addiction, the ratio of high:downside is a bit more in favour of the 'buzz'. i imagine you feel like the fucking bomb on crack, so the allure is there... but with booze? you just feel like shit.

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2011-01-08 08:30:06

#114

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|6093|College Park, MD

Uzique wrote:
i can't understand addiction to cigarettes or alcohol, really... i mean the buzz isn't even that great. alcoholism to me has always seemed like a grim form of masochism, an addiction involving overt self-harm as much as a dependency on a chemical... everytime you drink to excess you get so so so sick! at least with things like cocaine addiction, the ratio of high:downside is a bit more in favour of the 'buzz'. i imagine you feel like the fucking bomb on crack, so the allure is there... but with booze? you just feel like shit.

the way someone explained it to me, the addiction to cigarettes occurs because the nicotine starts to 'hijack' dopamine receptors (I think it was dopamine). Normally when you have, say, a nice meal you feel satisfied afterwards because of the neurotransmitter release. But if you've started a habit of smoking after a meal, or even just smoking in general, then you're not gonna feel that satisfaction until you get nicotine in your system. Becomes a vicious cycle basically. Now, I could be totally wrong, I just heard that from someone. But it certainly makes sense.

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2011-01-08 08:52:27

#115

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6862

yeah i understand that cigarette addiction is chemical/dependent rather than psychological/perceived

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2011-01-08 09:00:33

#116

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7040

Uzique wrote:
i can't understand addiction to cigarettes or alcohol, really... i mean the buzz isn't even that great. alcoholism to me has always seemed like a grim form of masochism, an addiction involving overt self-harm as much as a dependency on a chemical... everytime you drink to excess you get so so so sick! at least with things like cocaine addiction, the ratio of high:downside is a bit more in favour of the 'buzz'. i imagine you feel like the fucking bomb on crack, so the allure is there... but with booze? you just feel like shit.

Agreed. I mean, I drink a fair bit, but I can never get drunk multiple nights in a row because it just beats the shit out of you. I really can't see how you could wake up, get drunk and then stay like that until you go to bed, and then repeat that over and over. It just sounds like hell.

2011-01-08 09:15:03

#117

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6862

i used to be able to get utterly skullfucked on wine every night in my second year... it was just making it past the first 2 glasses or so

nowadays though i'm just sick

dunno what has changed

probably for the best

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2011-01-08 09:17:39