So the new standard is out (Maybe not a standard yet, but will be soon) and I am wondering if any of you tech pro's know much about it. They are already manufacturing boards, HDD's etc that are SATA 3. But I've read, that a HDD that is only 7200 RPM isn't even fast enough to do the transfer capabilities of SATA 3 so there is no point to getting them, is this true? Is it basically a requirement to use SSD's to utilize the transfer capabilities of SATA 3?
Pretty much....
To be honest SSDs aren't really constrained by SATA 2 bandwidth at the moment.
Mine peak at around 250MB/s - which is below the 3Gb/s that SATA 2 provides.
To be honest SSDs aren't really constrained by SATA 2 bandwidth at the moment.
Mine peak at around 250MB/s - which is below the 3Gb/s that SATA 2 provides.
Last edited by Bertster7 (2011-02-17 12:13:35)
I'm pretty sure some of the new SSD's hitting the market and at least a few current ones are at or above the limits of SATA 3Gb bandwidth. As for mechanical drives that are SATA 6Gb it's all just marketing as they aren't near saturating SATA 3 Gb.
Wow, well that is a shame. I bought a ASUS board that has SATA 3 and USB 3. Luckily it was still a very reasonable price. So basically no SSD on the market currently (Within reasonable price ranges) can even come close to the peak transferring ability of SATA 3. But some, can utilize SATA 2 quite well I take it. Good to know.
I'm trying to decide on what type of HDD to get. I saw some WD 640gig drives with SATA 3 for $70 on Newegg. But talk about a marketing ploy if they can't even transfer that fast wtf WD o_O?
I would really like to set up a SSD with the OS installed, and have two other HDD's as storage, etc. I'm not very good with the whole RAID thing, but I'll research it a bit. I would really like to have two SSD in RAID 0 (Where they work together to perform operations twice as fast, right?) and than have two larger disc drives as storage/games/etc
I'm trying to decide on what type of HDD to get. I saw some WD 640gig drives with SATA 3 for $70 on Newegg. But talk about a marketing ploy if they can't even transfer that fast wtf WD o_O?
I would really like to set up a SSD with the OS installed, and have two other HDD's as storage, etc. I'm not very good with the whole RAID thing, but I'll research it a bit. I would really like to have two SSD in RAID 0 (Where they work together to perform operations twice as fast, right?) and than have two larger disc drives as storage/games/etc
Vertex 3 Pro is said to break the limits of SATA2...
Engadget wrote:
We're becoming somewhat repetitive in our writing about SSDs -- every next one is that extra little bit faster or better and the crown just keeps exchanging hands -- but we couldn't be happier for it. Solid state storage is still one of the most exciting and rapidly developing areas of modern technology, a fact evidenced perfectly by the recent introduction of OCZ's Vertex 3 Pro drive. It touts a mad 550MBps maximum read and 500MBps maximum write speeds, mostly thanks to the brand spanking new SandForce SF-2500 controller chip it has onboard. It's been put through the benchmarking wringer by a number of sites today and the resulting conclusion has been lucid and unequivocal: the Vertex 3 Pro is the new champion among standalone 2.5-inch SSDs. AnandTech goes so far as to say it's "the first drive that really needs a 6Gbps interface." The V3Pro isn't yet on sale and the hardware looked at it in these previews was not final, but the next generation of SSDs looks to be keeping the breakneck pace of development that's characterized the storage medium so far. Lovely!
Last edited by FloppY_ (2011-02-17 16:02:59)
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Sounds badass, wish i could buy it for $80 though
I'm looking forward to the day where 120GB SSD's reach reasonable prices tbhMagna-Mike wrote:
Sounds badass, wish i could buy it for $80 though
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
I read somewhere though, that they have a limited life cycle relative to the amount of read/writes, but then again I guess all drives do
afaik the average lifespan of a HDD is far shorter than the amount of time it would take to wear through the memory cycles of a SSD to a noticeable amount...Magna-Mike wrote:
I read somewhere though, that they have a limited life cycle relative to the amount of read/writes, but then again I guess all drives do
Not to mention SSDs can take more physical punishment than HDDs
Last edited by FloppY_ (2011-02-17 20:46:24)
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
It used to be quite noticeable, but with the introduction of TRIM the effect is greatly reduced.
That OCZ still doesnt beat my 3x 120gb Intel SSDs in RAID0 with trim. Except 700mb/s read is a bit overkill.
Last edited by Computer_Guy (2011-02-17 22:34:16)
Over one and half years later, my HDDs are in far worse condition than my SSD.
Wear level 98% good (100% means new) and can't really see its got any slower even in benchmarks.
Wear level 98% good (100% means new) and can't really see its got any slower even in benchmarks.
3930K | H100i | RIVF | 16GB DDR3 | GTX 480 | AX750 | 800D | 512GB SSD | 3TB HDD | Xonar DX | W8
Got TRIM?GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Over one and half years later, my HDDs are in far worse condition than my SSD.
Wear level 98% good (100% means new) and can't really see its got any slower even in benchmarks.
Of course TRIM enabled, Intel drives were first to get it with firmware patch.
3930K | H100i | RIVF | 16GB DDR3 | GTX 480 | AX750 | 800D | 512GB SSD | 3TB HDD | Xonar DX | W8
I got a question kind of off topic. I have components for a new computer build, and I am wondering if I can put it all together, and then use my current HDD with my OS on it. Will it function? Or is it best to have a new build with a new OS freshly formatted with all the new hardware?
Of course I do have to install the board drivers, and the GPU drivers, hmm...Is there some way to make it work? Just uninstall all the old hardware drivers and install the new ones in Windows?
Of course I do have to install the board drivers, and the GPU drivers, hmm...Is there some way to make it work? Just uninstall all the old hardware drivers and install the new ones in Windows?
Last edited by Magna-Mike (2011-02-18 16:53:16)
Basically, but Windows may ask you to reactive because of changing motherboards (if you are changing MoBos).
do you have anything other than your OS on your harddrive? I'd just do a clean re-install if you can
Ya, I think I probably will. I do have another HDD and I'm just copying files off it onto my main drive, and changing the target address for all the shortcuts. Then I will reformat that second one. Here is a good question:
Is DirectX 11 specific to Windows 7/ Vista? Because I only have Windows XP...But all new hardware with Direct X 11 capabilities, (HD5770 GPU) Should I just get with the f@#$in times and buy Windows 7? Or will games like BC2 with all its fancy special effects work with all the new gear but old O.S?
Is DirectX 11 specific to Windows 7/ Vista? Because I only have Windows XP...But all new hardware with Direct X 11 capabilities, (HD5770 GPU) Should I just get with the f@#$in times and buy Windows 7? Or will games like BC2 with all its fancy special effects work with all the new gear but old O.S?
In theory it should work
but it never does.
but it never does.
omg.. win7 alreadyMagna-Mike wrote:
Ya, I think I probably will. I do have another HDD and I'm just copying files off it onto my main drive, and changing the target address for all the shortcuts. Then I will reformat that second one. Here is a good question:
Is DirectX 11 specific to Windows 7/ Vista? Because I only have Windows XP...But all new hardware with Direct X 11 capabilities, (HD5770 GPU) Should I just get with the f@#$in times and buy Windows 7? Or will games like BC2 with all its fancy special effects work with all the new gear but old O.S?
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
The hardware will work fine, in DX9, DX 10 and 11 are Vista/7 only.Magna-Mike wrote:
Is DirectX 11 specific to Windows 7/ Vista? Because I only have Windows XP...But all new hardware with Direct X 11 capabilities, (HD5770 GPU) Should I just get with the f@#$in times and buy Windows 7? Or will games like BC2 with all its fancy special effects work with all the new gear but old O.S?
fixed for less confusionjaymz9350 wrote:
The hardware will work fine in DX9. DX10/11 are Vista/7 only.Magna-Mike wrote:
Is DirectX 11 specific to Windows 7/ Vista? Because I only have Windows XP...But all new hardware with Direct X 11 capabilities, (HD5770 GPU) Should I just get with the f@#$in times and buy Windows 7? Or will games like BC2 with all its fancy special effects work with all the new gear but old O.S?
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Also BF3 is going to be DX 10/11 only. It won't work in XP.