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tazz. wrote:

Zimmer wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

I'm pretty stoked that they stole the Opera interface. That was why I switched to Opera - it sounds dumb but FF3 was really ugly in comparison. However, Opera fails to work with websites every so often, so I might switch back. Not sure what to do now. I love Opera but it's not without its problems.

It's really quite sad that Mozilla have resorted to "borrowing" all the new ideas from other browsers because they have no imagination of their own.

Mozilla has reached it's peak with development. The stuff they've come up with over the last year has been pretty poor.

Actually - if you go into the betas of both opera and FF - FF did it first - Opera simply have a quicker release cycle - they're up to 11 now i think. There was a major shitstorm on g.

Did some more research - the firefox button was conceived in Sep 09

Posts
http://blog.stephenhorlander.com/2009/1 … ui-update/
http://design-noir.de/log/2009/12/opera-firefox-ui/
http://limi.net/articles/firefox-4

Wasn't really referring to that. Was referring to tab stacking, speed dial, password manager. Even tabs were used properly in Opera (I understand there were earlier browser versions like iBrowse and NetCaptor were first, but Opera was a major contender at that point).

Also, fact is that Opera 11 that was released back in December and STILL rapes FF4 in ALL speed tests really shows are Mozilla are struggling to find their footing now.

I cannot understand how 4 months down the line of development and seeing the competition, FF4 fails to impress in absolutely every way.

Don't get me wrong, I will still use it as a browser and it works pretty well, but it's disappointing to see such a "hyped" release to fail big time when it comes to facts and figures (and usability!!!).

For reference:
http://lifehacker.com/#!5784396/browser … 1-and-more

ghettoperson wrote:

I've decided to keep using Opera, but I'll just find it less painful when using FF on sites Opera doesn't like.

Out of pure curiosity, which sites don't work for you in Opera?

ghettoperson wrote:

Off the top of my head I can't think of any. But usually it's little things that don't load properly, like videos, or my banks card payment approval system.

Usually I've found that some banks don't work in any browser but IE because of what they use to code the system. I believe FF also bends the browsing standards to allow the shitty sites to work properly. Not really a browser fault but a website fault.

Annoying, nonetheless.

Zimmer wrote:

tazz. wrote:

Zimmer wrote:

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Thought i'd give opera a wirl - see what it's really got going for it.

Few notes:
- It opens quickly
- I like the sidebar, i'd find it very useful



- I like the insta-go to page like chrome has - where you type in a site you've been to - for example fa then enter will go to facebook.
- I like how like chrome again - it searches straight away for things it doesn't know.


I think i'll play around with it just a tad more. I'm liking it so far.

Last edited by tazz. (2011-03-26 19:10:40)

I thought they stopped developing google wave?

ah.. sorta like google vid.

Kmar wrote:

Does chrome have tab groups?

nope

Kmar wrote:

thanks, I couldn't be bothered to open the app and check myself..lol

Fireshot is a good screenshot addon for both chrome and FF.

It let's you scroll capture and has a descent editor built in.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefo … /fireshot/
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta … mijnjoehne

Zimmer wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Off the top of my head I can't think of any. But usually it's little things that don't load properly, like videos, or my banks card payment approval system.

Usually I've found that some banks don't work in any browser but IE because of what they use to code the system. I believe FF also bends the browsing standards to allow the shitty sites to work properly. Not really a browser fault but a website fault.

Annoying, nonetheless.

Kind of related: The "full" version of Microsoft Outlook Exchange is disabled in anything other than IE. Pretty annoying, I don't know if there's a valid reason for it.

I'm seriously considering switching back to FF from Chrome, but my CR-48 is keeping me from switching.  Being able to sync bookmarks and other stuff is a great service.

Miggle wrote:

I really hate the thing with the URLs in the bottom left.

Any way to get rid of it?

Do you mean when you hover over a link?

just installed chrome to have a look ... i didn't realise that most of the "new" features and stuff in ff4 are already in Chrome. they look pretty much identical, haha