sorry, I am in the middle f doing my laundry....anyway13/f/taiwan wrote:
can't get it. ah i see how it is.13/f/taiwan wrote:
link to islamic gov't human shield policy pls.
http://www.google.com/search?client=saf … p;oe=UTF-8
http://www.google.com/search?client=saf … p;oe=UTF-8
I'll one up you. Hamasholes use Red Cross ambulances.13/f/taiwan wrote:
link to islamic gov't human shield policy pls.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
See? kinda typical when Islamic nations fight other nations ( or each other) human shields or blowing up civilians in markets and shit for no apparent strategic value whatsoever.
Then the CIA did some research on Saddam's use of human shields.
https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/gen … index.html
https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/gen … index.html
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Didn't happen during the Iran/Iraq war.lowing wrote:
See? kinda typical when Islamic nations fight other nations ( or each other) human shields or blowing up civilians in markets and shit for no apparent strategic value whatsoever.
Didn't happen during the conflicts with Israel.
In fact, it's considered despicable behaviour anywhere on the planet whether you're christian, muslim, buddhist or non religious.
I wonder how you're going to explain someone like Salladin, given that Islam is so incredibly vile and all.
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Annnnnnyyyyyyyway...now that we have established that. Lets get back to Bin Laden and why Muslims are concerned about how we treated his body.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/05/0 … 9020110502
http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/05/0 … 9020110502
For once I kinda agree with lowing, human shields seems to be an entirely middle eastern thing in any recent wars. I just don't think it's got anything to do with Islam, just that the people employing it are backwards ass nutters.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
nope. my videos/links defeat your arguments. looks like i win this round.
muslim people using human shields =/= all muslims use human shields
just like
i eat a cheezburger =/= everyone eats a cheezburger
so now we're set that this is a portion of the sample size, not the whole, lets break down your HAMAS bit
estimated muslim population of the world = 1.57billion
estimated population/members of hamas = about 11k active fighters
so some maths, 11k is (a very small number)% of the total muslim population.
so the portion of muslims (represented in your post by hamas) who use human shields is less than 1% of the total, i.e. a radical minority
Even if you throw in the numbers for any islamic related terror/bad people group i think you'd struggle to come to 1% of the total amount of muslims worldwide. so saying this is a typical islamic thing is...silly
just like
i eat a cheezburger =/= everyone eats a cheezburger
so now we're set that this is a portion of the sample size, not the whole, lets break down your HAMAS bit
estimated muslim population of the world = 1.57billion
estimated population/members of hamas = about 11k active fighters
so some maths, 11k is (a very small number)% of the total muslim population.
so the portion of muslims (represented in your post by hamas) who use human shields is less than 1% of the total, i.e. a radical minority
Even if you throw in the numbers for any islamic related terror/bad people group i think you'd struggle to come to 1% of the total amount of muslims worldwide. so saying this is a typical islamic thing is...silly
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I would have preferred a Mossad-style extraction like they did with Adolf Eichmann, followed by a televised trial and execution.
But hey, Bin Laden saw it coming. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
And using human shields when you're obviously overpowered, is more than cowardly.
The US should now focus on more top-ranking Al Qaeda personnel in similar fashion.
Apparently it's now possible to respond to terrorist attacks with asymmetrical tactics.
Also, Pakistani intelligence as a partner should be reevaluated...
But hey, Bin Laden saw it coming. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
And using human shields when you're obviously overpowered, is more than cowardly.
The US should now focus on more top-ranking Al Qaeda personnel in similar fashion.
Apparently it's now possible to respond to terrorist attacks with asymmetrical tactics.
Also, Pakistani intelligence as a partner should be reevaluated...
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysi … -Iran.aspx <-----IranShocking wrote:
Didn't happen during the Iran/Iraq war.lowing wrote:
See? kinda typical when Islamic nations fight other nations ( or each other) human shields or blowing up civilians in markets and shit for no apparent strategic value whatsoever.
Didn't happen during the conflicts with Israel.
In fact, it's considered despicable behaviour anywhere on the planet whether you're christian, muslim, buddhist or non religious.
I wonder how you're going to explain someone like Salladin, given that Islam is so incredibly vile and all.
https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/gen … ex.html#01 <-----Iraq
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/04/0 … 05<---- Libya
we already are well aware of hamas and its tactics against Israel, so I see no need to go there.
what else ya got?
what video/links? One or 2 criminals vs, entire nations and their actions during war? I don't think so.13/f/taiwan wrote:
nope. my videos/links defeat your arguments. looks like i win this round.
lol here we go again with the few argument...what I said and showed is true... Islamic govts. have employed such tactics... Nowhere did I say shit about "ALL MUSLIMS"... Please find something better than to make up shit I never said to argue against.FatherTed wrote:
muslim people using human shields =/= all muslims use human shields
just like
i eat a cheezburger =/= everyone eats a cheezburger
so now we're set that this is a portion of the sample size, not the whole, lets break down your HAMAS bit
estimated muslim population of the world = 1.57billion
estimated population/members of hamas = about 11k active fighters
so some maths, 11k is (a very small number)% of the total muslim population.
so the portion of muslims (represented in your post by hamas) who use human shields is less than 1% of the total, i.e. a radical minority
Even if you throw in the numbers for any islamic related terror/bad people group i think you'd struggle to come to 1% of the total amount of muslims worldwide. so saying this is a typical islamic thing is...silly
Last edited by lowing (2011-05-02 12:39:56)
How would you construct a defence for him?globefish23 wrote:
I would have preferred a Mossad-style extraction like they did with Adolf Eichmann, followed by a televised trial and execution.
But hey, Bin Laden saw it coming. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
And using human shields when you're obviously overpowered, is more than cowardly.
The US should now focus on more top-ranking Al Qaeda personnel in similar fashion.
Apparently it's now possible to respond to terrorist attacks with asymmetrical tactics.
Also, Pakistani intelligence as a partner should be reevaluated...
Just to play devils advocate here (lul) anything he would be accused of would be true and seen as a crime. You might as well put him on trial for having a beard, it would all be biased in favour of the prosecution.
I think it's much better he was killed outright, even if they did capture him and somehow construct a balanced trial there would still be the reprisals of hostages being taken on the other side to try to exchange for him, and I don't really want to watch innocent western workers having their heads cut off with blunt knives just because the US cant release him.
This same tactic needs to be employed for all leading Al Qaeda personnel, and it's the rare time i'll agree with its use. Kill them quickly and quietly with as little notice as possible.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
lowing wrote:
lol here we go again with the few argument...what I said and showed is true... Islamic govts. have employed such tactics... Nowhere did I say shit about "ALL MUSLIMS"... Please find something better than to make up shit I never said to argue against.FatherTed wrote:
muslim people using human shields =/= all muslims use human shields
just like
i eat a cheezburger =/= everyone eats a cheezburger
so now we're set that this is a portion of the sample size, not the whole, lets break down your HAMAS bit
estimated muslim population of the world = 1.57billion
estimated population/members of hamas = about 11k active fighters
so some maths, 11k is (a very small number)% of the total muslim population.
so the portion of muslims (represented in your post by hamas) who use human shields is less than 1% of the total, i.e. a radical minority
Even if you throw in the numbers for any islamic related terror/bad people group i think you'd struggle to come to 1% of the total amount of muslims worldwide. so saying this is a typical islamic thing is...silly
myself wrote:
Didn't happen during the Iran/Iraq war.
Didn't happen during the conflicts with Israel.
In fact, it's considered despicable behaviour anywhere on the planet whether you're christian, muslim, buddhist or non religious.
I wonder how you're going to explain someone like Salladin, given that Islam is so incredibly vile and all.
inane little opines
Hell just froze over because I agree with nukchebi0.nukchebi0 wrote:
The trial would honestly be a formality because the guilt is obvious. Having a trial would enable the US people to have a more satisfying conclusion (which, as stated earlier isn't necessarily healthy), and would allow the US itself to promote its own image as a bastion of liberty - if we give a trial to our most hated fugitive, one who we could easily have killed (as the raid shows), what dos that say about our commitment to our ideals? It's not entirely sincere, obviously, but nothing intended to improve a nation's perception ever is (as I'm sure a cursory glance at history will indicate.)13rin wrote:
He's wasted enough of American's time and $$.Jaekus wrote:
Kinda allows for more martyrism to come about that way.
This way it was so quick it's kinda like "fuck, did it really happen?"
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
lowing wrote:
lol here we go again with the few argument...what I said and showed is true... Islamic govts. have employed such tactics... Nowhere did I say shit about "ALL MUSLIMS"... Please find something better than to make up shit I never said to argue against.FatherTed wrote:
muslim people using human shields =/= all muslims use human shields
just like
i eat a cheezburger =/= everyone eats a cheezburger
so now we're set that this is a portion of the sample size, not the whole, lets break down your HAMAS bit
estimated muslim population of the world = 1.57billion
estimated population/members of hamas = about 11k active fighters
so some maths, 11k is (a very small number)% of the total muslim population.
so the portion of muslims (represented in your post by hamas) who use human shields is less than 1% of the total, i.e. a radical minority
Even if you throw in the numbers for any islamic related terror/bad people group i think you'd struggle to come to 1% of the total amount of muslims worldwide. so saying this is a typical islamic thing is...silly
?lowing wrote:
he used a woman as a human shield, who apparently was also killed.. How very Islamic of him
guess osama should put on a parka OLOLOJay wrote:
Hell just froze over because I agree with nukchebi0.nukchebi0 wrote:
The trial would honestly be a formality because the guilt is obvious. Having a trial would enable the US people to have a more satisfying conclusion (which, as stated earlier isn't necessarily healthy), and would allow the US itself to promote its own image as a bastion of liberty - if we give a trial to our most hated fugitive, one who we could easily have killed (as the raid shows), what dos that say about our commitment to our ideals? It's not entirely sincere, obviously, but nothing intended to improve a nation's perception ever is (as I'm sure a cursory glance at history will indicate.)13rin wrote:
He's wasted enough of American's time and $$.
and I wrote:Shocking wrote:
lowing wrote:
lol here we go again with the few argument...what I said and showed is true... Islamic govts. have employed such tactics... Nowhere did I say shit about "ALL MUSLIMS"... Please find something better than to make up shit I never said to argue against.FatherTed wrote:
muslim people using human shields =/= all muslims use human shields
just like
i eat a cheezburger =/= everyone eats a cheezburger
so now we're set that this is a portion of the sample size, not the whole, lets break down your HAMAS bit
estimated muslim population of the world = 1.57billion
estimated population/members of hamas = about 11k active fighters
so some maths, 11k is (a very small number)% of the total muslim population.
so the portion of muslims (represented in your post by hamas) who use human shields is less than 1% of the total, i.e. a radical minority
Even if you throw in the numbers for any islamic related terror/bad people group i think you'd struggle to come to 1% of the total amount of muslims worldwide. so saying this is a typical islamic thing is...sillymyself wrote:
Didn't happen during the Iran/Iraq war.
Didn't happen during the conflicts with Israel.
In fact, it's considered despicable behaviour anywhere on the planet whether you're christian, muslim, buddhist or non religious.
I wonder how you're going to explain someone like Salladin, given that Islam is so incredibly vile and all.
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysi … -Iran.aspx <-----Iran
https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/gen … ex.html#01 <-----Iraq
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/04/0 … 05<---- Libya
we already are well aware of hamas and its tactics against Israel, so I see no need to go there.
what else ya got? So ya see it does happen in Islamic nations, did I miss a point here? Or were really gunna have to go back 1000 years for your argument?
if ya got a question, by all means, ask.[-DER-]Omega wrote:
lowing wrote:
lol here we go again with the few argument...what I said and showed is true... Islamic govts. have employed such tactics... Nowhere did I say shit about "ALL MUSLIMS"... Please find something better than to make up shit I never said to argue against.FatherTed wrote:
muslim people using human shields =/= all muslims use human shields
just like
i eat a cheezburger =/= everyone eats a cheezburger
so now we're set that this is a portion of the sample size, not the whole, lets break down your HAMAS bit
estimated muslim population of the world = 1.57billion
estimated population/members of hamas = about 11k active fighters
so some maths, 11k is (a very small number)% of the total muslim population.
so the portion of muslims (represented in your post by hamas) who use human shields is less than 1% of the total, i.e. a radical minority
Even if you throw in the numbers for any islamic related terror/bad people group i think you'd struggle to come to 1% of the total amount of muslims worldwide. so saying this is a typical islamic thing is...silly?lowing wrote:
he used a woman as a human shield, who apparently was also killed.. How very Islamic of him
If you agree with him having a trial surely you agree there's a chance he was innocent then? If not, why bother?
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
Guilt is not to be decided by politicians, guilt is to be decided by trial by jury. It's the foundation of Anglo Law.presidentsheep wrote:
If you agree with him having a trial surely you agree there's a chance he was innocent then? If not, why bother?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Pray tell, how would this work? Trial in NYC? Didn't Holder conclude this was fail?Jay wrote:
Hell just froze over because I agree with nukchebi0.nukchebi0 wrote:
The trial would honestly be a formality because the guilt is obvious. Having a trial would enable the US people to have a more satisfying conclusion (which, as stated earlier isn't necessarily healthy), and would allow the US itself to promote its own image as a bastion of liberty - if we give a trial to our most hated fugitive, one who we could easily have killed (as the raid shows), what dos that say about our commitment to our ideals? It's not entirely sincere, obviously, but nothing intended to improve a nation's perception ever is (as I'm sure a cursory glance at history will indicate.)13rin wrote:
He's wasted enough of American's time and $$.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
I don't particularly care where the trial is held. Would make more sense to have it in front of the Supreme Court.13rin wrote:
Pray tell, how would this work? Trial in NYC? Didn't Holder conclude this was fail?Jay wrote:
Hell just froze over because I agree with nukchebi0.nukchebi0 wrote:
The trial would honestly be a formality because the guilt is obvious. Having a trial would enable the US people to have a more satisfying conclusion (which, as stated earlier isn't necessarily healthy), and would allow the US itself to promote its own image as a bastion of liberty - if we give a trial to our most hated fugitive, one who we could easily have killed (as the raid shows), what dos that say about our commitment to our ideals? It's not entirely sincere, obviously, but nothing intended to improve a nation's perception ever is (as I'm sure a cursory glance at history will indicate.)
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat