Where have you been? USA Edition

2011-06-14 04:55:15

#126

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6989|132 and Bush

nukchebi0 wrote:
Kmar wrote:
I think you're missing the point. .. again, the city of LA is what most people think of. So if we are talking about what constitutes the idea of "a different state", nothing about the sprawling metropolitan of LA says Yosemite Valley. .. for example.
All I am trying to say is that New York city does not feel like it is in New York state, because the city itself is so geographically pinched off from the rest of the state. It reasonable to say that in the industrialized US "one" state is comprised of cities, farms, rivers, mountains, and so on, all the geographical features that combined to create a mosaic of the landscape. Despite the vast diversity in California's terrain, from sprawling cities to pristine national parks, it feels like one state because these elements are all arranged within a territorial contained that makes them seems continuous, even if not similar. In New York, this is not the case. The entire New York city metropolitan area is dangling from the rest of the state by the string that is the Hudson River. It's sole connection is by that lifeline; it is not a healthy piece of the fabric.

When you say you are in LA, people think "Oh, he's in California" just as much as "Oh, he's in LA." When you say you are in New York, people think "Oh, he's in the city." What does that indicate?

Cool photo you posted though. A rare find when it comes to illustrating the perception of LA air quality. I would say the name Los Angeles more likely conjures up the following image though.
http://i.imgur.com/YN8Dh.jpg
Yeah, that photograph is beautiful, though I posted it to illustrate how close mountains were to LA, not to show that the air quality is sometimes liveable. I didn't even consider air quality when I selected it, haha.

The predominant idea of NY is the Big Apple. Just as the predominant idea of CA is LA. That is simply what I am saying.

Despite the vast diversity in California's terrain, from sprawling cities to pristine national parks, it feels like one state because these elements are all arranged within a territorial contained that makes them seems continuous, even if not similar.

Yes, to those who know better.

Also, NYC is hardly alone. I've traveled the state many times, and there is definitely large cities spread throughout it. .. such as Syracuse, Buffalo, Albany. Not nearly as big as NYC, but you're not exactly camped out in the Adirondack's when you're in them neither.

nukchebi0 wrote:
Yeah, that photograph is beautiful. I posted it to illustrate how close mountains were to LA, not to illustrate that the air quality is sometimes liveable. I didn't even consider it while posting.

That's part of what I am trying to explain. Californian clean air is in direct opposition to the stereotypical LA/CA environment.

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2011-06-14 05:04:35

#127

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6712|New Haven, CT

Kmar wrote:
nukchebi0 wrote:
Kmar wrote:
I think you're missing the point. .. again, the city of LA is what most people think of. So if we are talking about what constitutes the idea of "a different state", nothing about the sprawling metropolitan of LA says Yosemite Valley. .. for example.
All I am trying to say is that New York city does not feel like it is in New York state, because the city itself is so geographically pinched off from the rest of the state. It reasonable to say that in the industrialized US "one" state is comprised of cities, farms, rivers, mountains, and so on, all the geographical features that combined to create a mosaic of the landscape. Despite the vast diversity in California's terrain, from sprawling cities to pristine national parks, it feels like one state because these elements are all arranged within a territorial contained that makes them seems continuous, even if not similar. In New York, this is not the case. The entire New York city metropolitan area is dangling from the rest of the state by the string that is the Hudson River. It's sole connection is by that lifeline; it is not a healthy piece of the fabric.

When you say you are in LA, people think "Oh, he's in California" just as much as "Oh, he's in LA." When you say you are in New York, people think "Oh, he's in the city." What does that indicate?

Cool photo you posted though. A rare find when it comes to illustrating the perception of LA air quality. I would say the name Los Angeles more likely conjures up the following image though.
http://i.imgur.com/YN8Dh.jpg
Yeah, that photograph is beautiful, though I posted it to illustrate how close mountains were to LA, not to show that the air quality is sometimes liveable. I didn't even consider air quality when I selected it, haha.
The predominant idea of NY is the Big Apple. Just as the predominant idea of CA is LA. That is simply what I am saying.
Despite the vast diversity in California's terrain, from sprawling cities to pristine national parks, it feels like one state because these elements are all arranged within a territorial contained that makes them seems continuous, even if not similar.
Yes, to those who know better.

Also, NYC is hardly alone. I've traveled the state many times, and there is definitely large cities spread throughout it. .. such as Syracuse, Buffalo, Albany. Not nearly as big as NYC, but you're not exactly camped out in the Adirondack's when you're in them neither.

nukchebi0 wrote:
Yeah, that photograph is beautiful. I posted it to illustrate how close mountains were to LA, not to illustrate that the air quality is sometimes liveable. I didn't even consider it while posting.
That's part of what I am trying to explain. Californian clean air is in direct opposition to the stereotypical LA/CA environment.

Haha, we are clearly not speaking the same language here. I have class in a bit, and I'll be back with a clear head after that to try to clarify this.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2011-06-14 05:05:06)

2011-06-14 05:08:48