We've known the Earth was round for a very long actually. The whole ''they thought they would fall off the earth'' thing is actually a myth.
I would disagree, I would think Sarah Palin would be an example of an exceptional idiot and it concerns me that you think this level of idiocy is common. Of course you could be right and that concerns me even more.lowing wrote:
I see what you are getting at, and yes you have valid points. My only argument is, there plenty of stupidity to go around between our politicians, and fact is, what Obama has DONE concerns me to a greater extent than what Palin THINKS was the beginning of time.Ty wrote:
Believing in dinosaurs and man coexisting is not a religious belief is is a misconception thought up by religious people in answer to a question that their religion did not answer. Personally I like it more when religion says dinosaur boned are a test of faith from God, at least then they're being consistent. And do you know what I'm sick of the "it's part of their faith" defence. Do you know how idiotic that is? If I believed the moon was an alien spy satellite you'd say I'm crazy, if I said it was part of my religious belief you'd still say I was crazy and you'd be right. Yet Palin is excused from idiocy because "it's part of her faith"? Fuck that, I am not accepting that argument.lowing wrote:
It is part of her religious beliefs, nothing more, and so what? How does that threaten an economy or foreign policy over any other president with faith? Also, do you really think the "57 states" thing is the only thing Obama has said or done that was stupid? HTe man can not think without it being written on a teleprompter, and he still fucks up... DO you really call a guy that can not speak on issues honestly and from the heart and mind, without it being printed for him intelligent?
How does it threaten economic policy? You know what the belief alone doesn't. However the person that believes in that? Well that's another story. I explained lower down in that post why I think a belief that the rapture will happen in the next, say, fifty years is detrimental. To say that Palin is the type of person who wouldn't let her faith get in the way of her judgement is incredibly naive, especially when you look at the Bush administration and how much of that rhetoric Palin parrots.
And no the 57 states thing isn't the only thing Obama's said or done that is stupid it's just the one you've been focussing on so its the one I've been addressing. I've been talking about Palin not Obama after all. But since you bring it up I'll say this; nothing Obama has said or done has ever equalled the stupidity of beliving that humans and dinosaurs coexisted or trying to ban books for fear they would be offensive.
You may criticise him for his reliance on writers and teleprompters and to a degree I agree with you. But this doesn't suggest wanton stupidity to me. The fact that Obama mispronounced "corps" doesn't concern me. The fact that Bush and Palin both continue to mispronounce "nuclear" does concern me. See what I'm getting at here?
I see no reason to single out Palin as the end all and be all of "retardation" in American politics with so many politicians to cite, including Obama.
I simply do not think Palin is as dangerous for her beliefs on creation as I think Obama is for his action as the POTUS.
Now with Obama, your criticisms regarding him are down to his policy. In short, you don't believe it to be beneficial. That's cool, he's got his evidence you've got yours, it's political discourse not a question of intelligence or knowledge. Focusing on mispronounciation or number confusion does your argument no good because we're not talking about the same thing. I am saying that Sarah Palin is not only small-minded but closed-minded. I'm saying that she has demonstrated consistently that she has little common knowledge and poor general intelligence. We've already had someone like this in power, it didn't turn out very well. And yeah, despite bloopers and brainfarts being common among politicians I don't believe this same criticism can be levelled at any other politician or potential politician - at least I certainly hope it can't.
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For a supposed atheist you sure do care a lot about religion. So either you're not an atheist or you're an empty headed vessel that repeats the words of whoever it is he watches on tv. I vote the latter.lowing wrote:
I didn't know evolution was a fact either. I mean since every year they seem to come up with different evidence to support or discredit a previously "known" piece of information being taught.AussieReaper wrote:
The Republican Party of Alaska platform says, in its section on education: "We support giving Creation Science equal representation with other theories of the origin of life. If evolution is taught, it should be presented as only a theory."lowing wrote:
lol "teach both", I missed the part where she insists that it be taught as "scientific fact", as opposed to simply teaching the belief that creationism exists as what it is. A belief. I already know the woman believes in creationism. It is also a belief that she is not committed to pushing down the throats of anyone.
You can't teach them both as facts. Can you?
You can't teach one as a fact and then say, oh and there's also this theory you should know about.
Ya know, prayer used to be in school, one nation under god used to be in our pledge of allegiance, the 10 commandments used to be on the lawns of govt. buildings, Merry Christmas used to be said without offending anyone and there wasn't a problem until some asshole with nothing better to do decided he wanted those things to be the hill he wanted to die on. Personally, I think there are more important issues to tackle rather than combat "in god we trust" on money that has been there since they started printing the dollar.
Bill O'Reilly called, he wants his rant back.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Is being completely stupid a new debate tactic of yours? I called Varegg an idiot earlier this week (which earned me a three day ban), but man, you put him to shame. Dumb as a fucking fence post.lowing wrote:
Well lets see, it is only relatively recently that the theory of birds are what the dinosaurs evolved into. Also since we are talking about geology, and the origins of man, it is relatively recently that a "new world" was discovered and that the earth was round dispelling the "KNOWN FACT" that we were gunna fall off the damn planet if we sailed too far out into the ocean. Science and their KNOWN FACTS seem to change daily.AussieReaper wrote:
Oh geez, you really wanna go down this road?lowing wrote:
I didn't know evolution was a fact either.
You really believe that evolution is not a fact? You just went full retard, congrats you're just as retarded as she.
Any reason you don't think evolution is a fact, champ?Well that's true. Every year since CHarles Darwin wrote "On the Origin of Species" new evidence has been discovere in support of his work. Care to show us anything that has disproven it?lowing wrote:
I mean since every year they seem to come up with different evidence to support or discredit a previously "known" piece of information being taught.Not sure why you're going off on a tangent here. But good for you. "In God We Trust" is so cute. Did you know that on the Britishlowing wrote:
Ya know, prayer used to be in school, one nation under god used to be in our pledge of allegiance, the 10 commandments used to be on the lawns of govt. buildings, Merry Christmas used to be said without offending anyone and there wasn't a problem until some asshole with nothing better to do decided he wanted those things to be the hill he wanted to die on. Personally, I think there are more important issues to tackle rather than combat "in god we trust" on money that has been there since they started printing the dollar.
Where am I going with this? Well, the fact that people like you cannot find anything better to bitch about Palin except her opinion on mans origins, indicates to me you might have your priorities a little mixed up as to what is relevant and what is not.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
ITT: lowing defending creationism and trying to undermine evolution.
You saw it it here first folks.
You saw it it here first folks.
He doesn't mind her idiocy because he knows he's even less intelligent than she is. Most of us want to feel at least intellectually equal to those that lead us. In lowings case the bar isn't set very high. Understand that when conversing with him.Ty wrote:
I would disagree, I would think Sarah Palin would be an example of an exceptional idiot and it concerns me that you think this level of idiocy is common. Of course you could be right and that concerns me even more.lowing wrote:
I see what you are getting at, and yes you have valid points. My only argument is, there plenty of stupidity to go around between our politicians, and fact is, what Obama has DONE concerns me to a greater extent than what Palin THINKS was the beginning of time.Ty wrote:
Believing in dinosaurs and man coexisting is not a religious belief is is a misconception thought up by religious people in answer to a question that their religion did not answer. Personally I like it more when religion says dinosaur boned are a test of faith from God, at least then they're being consistent. And do you know what I'm sick of the "it's part of their faith" defence. Do you know how idiotic that is? If I believed the moon was an alien spy satellite you'd say I'm crazy, if I said it was part of my religious belief you'd still say I was crazy and you'd be right. Yet Palin is excused from idiocy because "it's part of her faith"? Fuck that, I am not accepting that argument.
How does it threaten economic policy? You know what the belief alone doesn't. However the person that believes in that? Well that's another story. I explained lower down in that post why I think a belief that the rapture will happen in the next, say, fifty years is detrimental. To say that Palin is the type of person who wouldn't let her faith get in the way of her judgement is incredibly naive, especially when you look at the Bush administration and how much of that rhetoric Palin parrots.
And no the 57 states thing isn't the only thing Obama's said or done that is stupid it's just the one you've been focussing on so its the one I've been addressing. I've been talking about Palin not Obama after all. But since you bring it up I'll say this; nothing Obama has said or done has ever equalled the stupidity of beliving that humans and dinosaurs coexisted or trying to ban books for fear they would be offensive.
You may criticise him for his reliance on writers and teleprompters and to a degree I agree with you. But this doesn't suggest wanton stupidity to me. The fact that Obama mispronounced "corps" doesn't concern me. The fact that Bush and Palin both continue to mispronounce "nuclear" does concern me. See what I'm getting at here?
I see no reason to single out Palin as the end all and be all of "retardation" in American politics with so many politicians to cite, including Obama.
I simply do not think Palin is as dangerous for her beliefs on creation as I think Obama is for his action as the POTUS.
Now with Obama, your criticisms regarding him are down to his policy. In short, you don't believe it to be beneficial. That's cool, he's got his evidence you've got yours, it's political discourse not a question of intelligence or knowledge. Focusing on mispronounciation or number confusion does your argument no good because we're not talking about the same thing. I am saying that Sarah Palin is not only small-minded but closed-minded. I'm saying that she has demonstrated consistently that she has little common knowledge and poor general intelligence. We've already had someone like this in power, it didn't turn out very well. And yeah, despite bloopers and brainfarts being common among politicians I don't believe this same criticism can be levelled at any other politician or potential politician - at least I certainly hope it can't.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Actually it is the opposite, I have no problem with accepting Palin's mistakes as brain dead. I also recognize other politicians including the savior Obama is not any better. You all are the ones making excuses for Obama instead of lumping him in with the rest.Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
There is a difference between not being able to answer a question off the script, and wanting to prevent unscripted mistakes.lowing wrote:
Do you see a problem with not being able to ask the POTUS an unscripted question and expect an answer that is honest and sincere and unrehearsed? Do you not think that a man that can not answer a question unrehearsed without reading his answer as kinda sorta limited intellectually?Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
How can someone not have an unscripted opinion on something? Everyone has opinions on everything. Basically you are criticising the president for making well constructed arguments and speeches rather than risking off-the-cuff mistakes. I criticise Palin because when she speaks she says things that are A) Just plain wrong, B) Nonsensical and C) Completely lacking in any political finesse.
And you insist she is intelligent.
Did you think the same thing about Bush or Palin when they embarrassed themselves attempting to answer questions off the script? You seem to explain away Palin's off the script mistakes by saying it was a simple mistake or it was just "her beliefs", and yet when Obama makes a mistake off the script it is because he is dishonest, unintelligent and therefore unfit to be president.
Seems to be a pretty clear case of the "halo effect". You might say the same thing about me, and you might be right, but you can't deny that is what you are doing.
So the eight pages you've spent defending Palin is your idea of accepting her idiocy? Ummmmmm...... Ok
I am agnostic. I do not believe there is anyone on earth qualified to answer the age old question, "What happens to us when we die"? and no, I am not defending Palin's beliefs, I am arguing that she does not hold the retard title exclusively and I am arguing what Obama is doing is far more threatening to our nation than Palin's belief that men walked with fuckin dinosaurs.Jay wrote:
For a supposed atheist you sure do care a lot about religion. So either you're not an atheist or you're an empty headed vessel that repeats the words of whoever it is he watches on tv. I vote the latter.lowing wrote:
I didn't know evolution was a fact either. I mean since every year they seem to come up with different evidence to support or discredit a previously "known" piece of information being taught.AussieReaper wrote:
The Republican Party of Alaska platform says, in its section on education: "We support giving Creation Science equal representation with other theories of the origin of life. If evolution is taught, it should be presented as only a theory."
You can't teach them both as facts. Can you?
You can't teach one as a fact and then say, oh and there's also this theory you should know about.
Ya know, prayer used to be in school, one nation under god used to be in our pledge of allegiance, the 10 commandments used to be on the lawns of govt. buildings, Merry Christmas used to be said without offending anyone and there wasn't a problem until some asshole with nothing better to do decided he wanted those things to be the hill he wanted to die on. Personally, I think there are more important issues to tackle rather than combat "in god we trust" on money that has been there since they started printing the dollar.
Bill O'Reilly called, he wants his rant back.
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I see, so I am wrong, science does not change "facts" as evidence is uncovered? Ok.Jay wrote:
Is being completely stupid a new debate tactic of yours? I called Varegg an idiot earlier this week (which earned me a three day ban), but man, you put him to shame. Dumb as a fucking fence post.lowing wrote:
Well lets see, it is only relatively recently that the theory of birds are what the dinosaurs evolved into. Also since we are talking about geology, and the origins of man, it is relatively recently that a "new world" was discovered and that the earth was round dispelling the "KNOWN FACT" that we were gunna fall off the damn planet if we sailed too far out into the ocean. Science and their KNOWN FACTS seem to change daily.AussieReaper wrote:
Oh geez, you really wanna go down this road?lowing wrote:
I didn't know evolution was a fact either.
You really believe that evolution is not a fact? You just went full retard, congrats you're just as retarded as she.
Any reason you don't think evolution is a fact, champ?Well that's true. Every year since CHarles Darwin wrote "On the Origin of Species" new evidence has been discovere in support of his work. Care to show us anything that has disproven it?lowing wrote:
I mean since every year they seem to come up with different evidence to support or discredit a previously "known" piece of information being taught.
Not sure why you're going off on a tangent here. But good for you. "In God We Trust" is so cute. Did you know that on the British
Where am I going with this? Well, the fact that people like you cannot find anything better to bitch about Palin except her opinion on mans origins, indicates to me you might have your priorities a little mixed up as to what is relevant and what is not.
why is that? because I am not running for cover because Palin thinks man and dinosaurs co-existed? The fact that she has never stated it as "scientific fact" like you have claimed? Or the fact that she has never insisted those teaching be implemented in schools? Sorry, I am not ready to single her out above any other dipshit politician just yet.Jay wrote:
He doesn't mind her idiocy because he knows he's even less intelligent than she is. Most of us want to feel at least intellectually equal to those that lead us. In lowings case the bar isn't set very high. Understand that when conversing with him.Ty wrote:
I would disagree, I would think Sarah Palin would be an example of an exceptional idiot and it concerns me that you think this level of idiocy is common. Of course you could be right and that concerns me even more.lowing wrote:
I see what you are getting at, and yes you have valid points. My only argument is, there plenty of stupidity to go around between our politicians, and fact is, what Obama has DONE concerns me to a greater extent than what Palin THINKS was the beginning of time.
I see no reason to single out Palin as the end all and be all of "retardation" in American politics with so many politicians to cite, including Obama.
I simply do not think Palin is as dangerous for her beliefs on creation as I think Obama is for his action as the POTUS.
Now with Obama, your criticisms regarding him are down to his policy. In short, you don't believe it to be beneficial. That's cool, he's got his evidence you've got yours, it's political discourse not a question of intelligence or knowledge. Focusing on mispronounciation or number confusion does your argument no good because we're not talking about the same thing. I am saying that Sarah Palin is not only small-minded but closed-minded. I'm saying that she has demonstrated consistently that she has little common knowledge and poor general intelligence. We've already had someone like this in power, it didn't turn out very well. And yeah, despite bloopers and brainfarts being common among politicians I don't believe this same criticism can be levelled at any other politician or potential politician - at least I certainly hope it can't.
I wonder if lowing could participate in a debate without insterting a question mark once in his posts
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Nope if you have read I spent those pages arguing Palin ain't the only dip shit to worry about in or could be in, Washington.Jaekus wrote:
So the eight pages you've spent defending Palin is your idea of accepting her idiocy? Ummmmmm...... Ok
Oh come now, don't lie. It's right there in your first post for all to see.lowing wrote:
Nope if you have read I spent those pages arguing Palin ain't the only dip shit to worry about in or could be in, Washington.Jaekus wrote:
So the eight pages you've spent defending Palin is your idea of accepting her idiocy? Ummmmmm...... Ok
That's defending her if I ever saw it. It's certainly not accepting her idiocy, is it?lowing wrote:
Retarded how? What has she done that was so retarded, wear white after labor day? I mean it is bullshit like her wardrobe that the the left goes after. Hell, like sharks in the water they couldn't wait to tear apart her released emails, and once they did they still got nothing. I found it funny that the left ripped her apart over the paul revere comments, only to find out she was right. Then they started in on the, "well, she was right by accident", yeah, and SHE is the retard? lol
It is not defending her more than it is challenging the media to come up with something more than what they have done to trash her. Point being, there is far more idiocy in washington than anything Palin has done or said.Jaekus wrote:
Oh come now, don't lie. It's right there in your first post for all to see.lowing wrote:
Nope if you have read I spent those pages arguing Palin ain't the only dip shit to worry about in or could be in, Washington.Jaekus wrote:
So the eight pages you've spent defending Palin is your idea of accepting her idiocy? Ummmmmm...... OkThat's defending her if I ever saw it. It's certainly not accepting her idiocy, is it?lowing wrote:
Retarded how? What has she done that was so retarded, wear white after labor day? I mean it is bullshit like her wardrobe that the the left goes after. Hell, like sharks in the water they couldn't wait to tear apart her released emails, and once they did they still got nothing. I found it funny that the left ripped her apart over the paul revere comments, only to find out she was right. Then they started in on the, "well, she was right by accident", yeah, and SHE is the retard? lol
That's only because Palin isn't in Washington. If she were, that statement would no longer be true
Ironically, Palin seems to represent everything that is wrong with Washington...lowing wrote:
It is not defending her more than it is challenging the media to come up with something more than what they have done to trash her. Point being, there is far more idiocy in washington than anything Palin has done or said.
By "Washington" I mean national politics, not the federal gov't
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What's wrong with Palin?
She's for aiding Israel, she's anti-abortion, she isn't afraid to take a stand against other countries instead of kiss up like the little bitch Obama is, and she isn't for all that welfare crap, she's gona cut taxes supposedly, etc.
Ya'll are a bunch of haters
She's for aiding Israel, she's anti-abortion, she isn't afraid to take a stand against other countries instead of kiss up like the little bitch Obama is, and she isn't for all that welfare crap, she's gona cut taxes supposedly, etc.
Ya'll are a bunch of haters
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
palin's hot. i'd hit it, definitely.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Oh awesome, -Sh1fty- just unwittingly outlined some of the major reasons why people don't like Palin!-Sh1fty- wrote:
What's wrong with Palin?
She's for aiding Israel, she's anti-abortion, she isn't afraid to take a stand against other countries instead of kiss up like the little bitch Obama is, and she isn't for all that welfare crap, she's gona cut taxes supposedly, etc.
Ya'll are a bunch of haters
Her personality is why people hate her, not her politics. All politicians lie, but when it comes to being full of shit, Palin takes the cake, imo.-Sh1fty- wrote:
What's wrong with Palin?
She's for aiding Israel, she's anti-abortion, she isn't afraid to take a stand against other countries instead of kiss up like the little bitch Obama is, and she isn't for all that welfare crap, she's gona cut taxes supposedly, etc.
Ya'll are a bunch of haters
depends which classic philosopher you're referring to, there. the 'earth is round' crowd were a small minority, and the copernican system was even rarer.Macbeth wrote:
We've known the Earth was round for a very long actually. The whole ''they thought they would fall off the earth'' thing is actually a myth.
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You're a creationist... 'nuff said.-Sh1fty- wrote:
What's wrong with Palin?
-Sh1fty- wrote:
Ya'll are a bunch of haters
ya'll wish you had my stunning twig looks
and yeah, I'm not some liberal with a socialist agenda so I am into Palin's political views. When has she been full of shit? Show me a hypocritical issue or her lying.
and yeah, I'm not some liberal with a socialist agenda so I am into Palin's political views. When has she been full of shit? Show me a hypocritical issue or her lying.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
liberal? socialism? lol ok bro.-Sh1fty- wrote:
ya'll wish you had my stunning twig looks
and yeah, I'm not some liberal with a socialist agenda so I am into Palin's political views. When has she been full of shit? Show me a hypocritical issue or her lying.
