i mean really, if gaffes are the strongest and first things you could think of dude, where were during the bush years saying how much you hated that mofo?
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It wasn't, but I had to start somewhere.eleven bravo wrote:
i mean really, if gaffes are the strongest and first things you could think of dude, where were during the bush years saying how much you hated that mofo?
I guess I could make more posts about any of the following items; his unconstitutional health care scheme, the massive reckless spending, unauthorized war in Lybia, his inability to make and stick to a decision, arrogant behavior toward the opposition party, his idiotic supreme court pick, his lavish travel and vacations, his whoring out the WH to make a buck, his environmental policies, his open government policy, his policy toward Israel, his apologetic behavior toward enemies, complacency toward iran getting the bomb, caving to russia on missile defense system, cutting military spending...
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I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
you started off strong then you got to arrogant behavior and you lost me again. to keep it real I think the only valid gripe you have with him would be the increase in spending.
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I thought it was a pretty unanimous decision that cutting military spending was absolutely needed?
Other things need to be cut too, you can't just cut 1 thing and be done with it.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
where?eleven bravo wrote:
youve defended bush on this forum way more times ive seen you defend obama
Pic of kiwi SF walking out of the Kabul hotel that had been attacked by gunmen.
Great photo imo
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There can be only one!
You left off legalizing prostitution11 Bravo wrote:
i have my views on certain issues. i dont align with any party. i dont care if gays get married. dont give a rats ass about abortion. i dont want our military all over the world. i want pot legal. and i dont think our borders should be wide open.
call it what you want i guess.
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Is it just me or does that guy look like Ryan Reynolds?Shocking wrote:
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/171/17 … e/978x.jpg
Pic of kiwi SF walking out of the Kabul hotel that had been attacked by gunmen.
Great photo imo
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Bloody hell I would not like to take on that guy 2nd left.Shocking wrote:
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/171/17 … e/978x.jpg
Pic of kiwi SF walking out of the Kabul hotel that had been attacked by gunmen.
Great photo imo
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Actually, they did violate them by not cooperating with the inspectors and in various other ways.Dilbert_X wrote:
Except Iraq didn't really violate any UNSC resolutions, since it didn't have any WMD programs.
UN Inspectors found nothing either, despite years of inspections.
The putative 'violations' amounted to nothing more than 'we know you have WMD programs, therefore you must be hiding them from us'.
You know this. You're just trolling at this point.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
That is not the "only way" to deal with sectarian issues in a country. It is certainly the quickest way. But it doesn't address the root issue, which is the perceived wrongs against one sect by another. The long term way to resolve that is representative government that gives all parties a say--exactly what is happening in Iraq right now. That, however, is being hampered by endemic corruption...which flourishes under the totalitarian model you espouse to solve the sectarian problem and only worsens it, tbh. Corruption has to be eliminated in order for representative government and free market economy to work. And that takes time. By most estimates, at least a generation.Uzique wrote:
the only way to deal with sectarian conflicts in the nation-model is to put it out with a totalitarian stamped boot ala saddam or to split the country between the separate dividing parties... in which case we're not talking about an 'iraq' and its danger to the middle-east at all, we're talking about 'x' group's potential volatility... the nation model is already outdated in the west, where we're all assuming international trade-economic and political conglomerations, so i'm not sure why we're so intent on imposing it on everybody else.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Didn't start any wars13rin wrote:
GAH!
Recap:
He can't tell the difference between a door and a window at the White House.
He can't talk with out a teleprompter.
He doesn't remember who he hand out the countries most badass highest fucking awards to.
He can't dress himself properly.
He doesn't know the amount of States in the union.
He doesn't know how old his own kids are.
Didn't let AQ attack America
Did kill Bin Laden
Fuck Israel
That and totally removing race, sectarianism and religion from public and political life. Hard to do but can be done.FEOS wrote:
That is not the "only way" to deal with sectarian issues in a country. It is certainly the quickest way. But it doesn't address the root issue, which is the perceived wrongs against one sect by another. The long term way to resolve that is representative government that gives all parties a say--exactly what is happening in Iraq right now. That, however, is being hampered by endemic corruption...which flourishes under the totalitarian model you espouse to solve the sectarian problem and only worsens it, tbh. Corruption has to be eliminated in order for representative government and free market economy to work. And that takes time. By most estimates, at least a generation.Uzique wrote:
the only way to deal with sectarian conflicts in the nation-model is to put it out with a totalitarian stamped boot ala saddam or to split the country between the separate dividing parties... in which case we're not talking about an 'iraq' and its danger to the middle-east at all, we're talking about 'x' group's potential volatility... the nation model is already outdated in the west, where we're all assuming international trade-economic and political conglomerations, so i'm not sure why we're so intent on imposing it on everybody else.
France has actually done reasonably well at it, Israel is doing its best to go the other way.
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You can't remove those factors from public and political life. Because they are part of the fabric of a nation. Removing them from public and political life, rather than acknowledging and dealing with any associated issues, is what causes sectarian strife. Governing based on sectarian values rather than the rule of law is the problem--and many countries are doing that just fine. Perhaps that's what you meant?Dilbert_X wrote:
That and totally removing race, sectarianism and religion from public and political life. Hard to do but can be done.FEOS wrote:
That is not the "only way" to deal with sectarian issues in a country. It is certainly the quickest way. But it doesn't address the root issue, which is the perceived wrongs against one sect by another. The long term way to resolve that is representative government that gives all parties a say--exactly what is happening in Iraq right now. That, however, is being hampered by endemic corruption...which flourishes under the totalitarian model you espouse to solve the sectarian problem and only worsens it, tbh. Corruption has to be eliminated in order for representative government and free market economy to work. And that takes time. By most estimates, at least a generation.Uzique wrote:
the only way to deal with sectarian conflicts in the nation-model is to put it out with a totalitarian stamped boot ala saddam or to split the country between the separate dividing parties... in which case we're not talking about an 'iraq' and its danger to the middle-east at all, we're talking about 'x' group's potential volatility... the nation model is already outdated in the west, where we're all assuming international trade-economic and political conglomerations, so i'm not sure why we're so intent on imposing it on everybody else.
France has actually done reasonably well at it, Israel is doing its best to go the other way.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
You can have a go, make it a serious crime to discriminate based on race, religion or anything else, disallow any use of state funds, parliamentary time for any sectarian purpose etc.
Too many countries include sectarianism in their law so governing according to the rule of law doesn't help much...
Too many countries include sectarianism in their law so governing according to the rule of law doesn't help much...
Fuck Israel
Most democracies do just that...can't think of one that doesn't, tbh.Dilbert_X wrote:
You can have a go, make it a serious crime to discriminate based on race, religion or anything else, disallow any use of state funds, parliamentary time for any sectarian purpose etc.
Those would be countries that most likely aren't democracies.Dilbert_X wrote:
Too many countries include sectarianism in their law so governing according to the rule of law doesn't help much...
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Most Western 'democracies' discriminate in favour of Christianity, Britain and America for example.
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Absolutely, 100%, incontrovertibly...wrong.Dilbert_X wrote:
Most Western 'democracies' discriminate in favour of Christianity, Britain and America for example.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Looks like a nice enough guy, just got his game face on now so I wouldn't get in his way no.Spark wrote:
Bloody hell I would not like to take on that guy 2nd left.Shocking wrote:
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/171/17 … e/978x.jpg
Pic of kiwi SF walking out of the Kabul hotel that had been attacked by gunmen.
Great photo imo
You're right he doesKmar wrote:
Is it just me or does that guy look like Ryan Reynolds?
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not really, though. just take a look at britain's elite. all its best schools are anglican or catholic strongholds. power and influence are concentrated beyond denial in a class of middle-upper class white (former) christians. perhaps in the new upcoming generation the religion will play a lesser role, but it's still an essential part of their sociological make-up. discrimination based on religion? perhaps not overtly. but it's very evident that a 'certain' sort of person from a 'certain' sort of background is taking up 99% of the upper echelons of our society.FEOS wrote:
Absolutely, 100%, incontrovertibly...wrong.Dilbert_X wrote:
Most Western 'democracies' discriminate in favour of Christianity, Britain and America for example.
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how many atheist politicians do you know of?FEOS wrote:
Absolutely, 100%, incontrovertibly...wrong.Dilbert_X wrote:
Most Western 'democracies' discriminate in favour of Christianity, Britain and America for example.
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The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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in the states
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