BF2S Forums Kick-ass Commander on Wake Island 07'

that is cool, but I don't like it. Kind of an exploit of the whole "spawn on squad leader thing". It's a brilliant tactic for sure.

dshak wrote:

that is cool, but I don't like it. Kind of an exploit of the whole "spawn on squad leader thing". It's a brilliant tactic for sure.

How is it an exploit?

It'd be nice if there were more commanders like that, and more squad leaders like that, and more squad members like that..don't expect to see that teamwork often

I dont get it, how do you spawn on a squad leader when your not even in that squad?

dshak wrote:

how is it an exploit???? You no longer have to take a beach head, you can just land one guy and all of the sudden your whole army is behind enemy lines? To me thats exploiting the whole -spawn on squad leader- aspect of the game. I never said it wasn't BRILLIANT, but its kind of an abuse of the systems the game employs.

Boo Wah!!!!! In 1940 Hitler took France using a tactic that they did not expect someone to use.  In June 1944 we hit Hitler where he did not expect it, in Desert Storm we hit Saddam where he didn't expect it.  So a tactic worked where the PLA failed to defend their prime base.  BRILLIANT!!!

This game is an exercise in teamwork, planning, and speed.  If you can't tolerate a team that is so well coordinated that they decimate the other side in minutes then you might wanna try another game.  May I suggest PONG???

beeng wrote:

Too bad most people don't listen to the commanders.

I Definitly agree.. I always try to do stuff - but who listens? to be realistic, only 1/20 games a single squad listen to your basic commands..
The rest usually presses "page up" when they get an order (as if it was a question of forgiving or punishing the teamkiller - a whole other story) and never sets foot near the objective I just gave..

The commander feature is a cool feature - too bad people don't listen...

decimate:
1. To destroy or kill a large part of (a group).
2. Usage Problem.
    a. To inflict great destruction or damage on: The fawns decimated my rose bushes.
    b. To reduce markedly in amount: a profligate heir who decimated his trust fund.
3. To select by lot and kill one in every ten of.

(9)Kermit wrote:

KillerAFET wrote:

This game is an exercise in teamwork, planning, and speed.  If you can't tolerate a team that is so well coordinated that they decimate the other side in minutes then you might wanna try another game.  May I suggest PONG???

Doesn't anyone know the meaning of decimate anymore? If one team was completely beaten then they were obliterated or annihilated, if only a part of them was destroyed then they were decimated.

Sorry, that word is a pet peeve of mine, please ignore.

Your wierd

couple this with a competant squadleader who uses VOIP and responds to squad member suggestions ("im spec ops, lets go raid their arty quickly") and you would have the best match, it would be like a dream.

good for you that you had such a great experience with that commander. BUT...ever tried me as your commander?
Most of the folks who have played with me enjoyed my strategy command cause it is like  'riding'along with me ito the grocery store for some free shoping
That strategic way you experienced as and old one to conquer your enemy. I got lots more of those tricks to win. In the end its always fun to hear/read the experience of the oposite losing party that the game was over that quickly

beeng wrote:

Too bad most people don't listen to the commanders.

I find that as a squad leader I'm more likely to pay attention to the CO if he's talking to me, loud and clear enough for me to understand him, over VOIP, than if he's just spamming "enemy spotted" and sending me to odd points on the map from the command screen. I had a commander on Kubra Dam, who must have seen I was in the AA tank, and yet he kept sending me to wherever there was trouble (I was dominating) which I tried to comply with, but seeing as the tank is the slowest around, I rarely got to where I was going before he sent me somewhere else. In the end I stopped listening.

But if the commander asks his squad leaders to comply with specific orders, and actually commends them when they do something right, doesn't drop artillery on their heads, and warns them verbally when people are moving on their position, then I find squad leaders will start to rely on the commander more, and thus are more likely to listen. I'm not much of a commander, but I had a great run on Wake Island where we won 4 maps in a row with me as commander, and all I did in the first round was scan repeatedly and spot incoming planes/helis for our pilots, and respond to requests for artillery, UAVs or supplies. By the second map the players were quite happy to ask for specifics, and when I told them, VOIP-style to take/hold/etc, they usually did it. Sometimes it's not practical for the players to comply, and that's reasonable too, remember that.

If no one is listening, then, apart from stupid selfish troops of which there are plenty, I'll admit, it's likely that: a) you haven't been CO in a session long enough to impress your troops, or b) you suck.

Teamwork requires putting the needs of a team over the needs of an individual.
Many kids do not understand that concept thinking only of themselves.
They don't even listen to their parents so listening to someone on a computer game isn't even a possibility.
Only those people who recognize teamwork and work towards that goal are willing to listen to orders.
The rest are lost and shall doom this world to destruction or something like that.