The Secret To Flying Jets.

2006-05-18 18:37:24

#76

DaReJa: BF2s US Server Admin; +257|7107|Los Angeles, California, US.

spawnofthemist wrote:
DaReJa wrote:
Oh yes, By the way. Any of you have an Explanation as to why it is Easier to Hit a Helicopter (All Missles Hit) With a Lower Ping?
The questions is... have YOU

Uhhmmm, Yes. I gave it already. Oh, And Nothing is Hearsay.

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2006-05-18 18:38:12

#77

Defiance: Member; +438|7151

DaReJa wrote:
spawnofthemist wrote:
DaReJa wrote:
Oh yes, By the way. Any of you have an Explanation as to why it is Easier to Hit a Helicopter (All Missles Hit) With a Lower Ping?
The questions is... have YOU
Uhhmmm, Yes. I gave it already. Oh, And Nothing is Hearsay.

So prove that every single missle hits a heli at being below 40 ("low")

Go make a video, I can give you fraps or a tutorial on how to use BR.

And quit wasting my time with your "I say it and it's true!" HEARSAY BULLSHIT.

Last edited by Defiance (2006-05-18 18:38:31)

2006-05-18 18:39:15

#78

DaReJa: BF2s US Server Admin; +257|7107|Los Angeles, California, US.

Omg Will you STFU already.

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2006-05-18 18:39:16

#79

LaidBackNinja: Pony Slaystation; +343|7189|Charlie One Alpha

polarbearz wrote:
LaidBackNinja wrote:
But I never dumbfire missiles anyway.
It doesn't matter if you don't, but if you try it out, believe me the dumbfire path of the missile, if mastered down pat, adds a great weapon to your arsenal, whether snapping off missile shots on a heli, or letting an opponent plane 'drop in' into killzone of your HUD.

LaidBackNinja wrote:
how about my question about the missile tracking system being client or server based?
Because if it is client based ping definately WOULD have influence on it. We all know knifing and shooting seems to be client based (the mysterious white puffs of smoke but no damage)
I'm no expert, but I'm guessing they're one and the same?

Sorry, that should have been server based. The hitbox detection seems to be server based. I'm guessing the same is true for the missile tracking system, in which case it doesn't really matter what is going on on YOUR screen, because your missiles see the 'true' picture anyway and should have no trouble following the enemy jet regardless of ping?

"If you want a vision of the future, imagine SecuROM slapping your face with its dick -- forever." -George Orwell

2006-05-18 18:39:35

#80

spawnofthemist: Banned; +1,128|7122|Burmecia, Land of the Rain

DaReJa wrote:
spawnofthemist wrote:
DaReJa wrote:
Oh yes, By the way. Any of you have an Explanation as to why it is Easier to Hit a Helicopter (All Missles Hit) With a Lower Ping?
The questions is... have YOU
Uhhmmm, Yes. I gave it already. Oh, And Nothing is Hearsay.

hmm and so far (off topic) the person whose negative karma you're trying to beat (while still on positive)(/off topic) has dismissed what you say as rubbish.. and i believe the bear..

but yeah.. where the secret to flying jets i was hoping for from this horribly misnamed flamefest of a thread?

2006-05-18 18:39:44

#81

polarbearz: Raiders of the Lost Bear; +-1,474|7269|Singapore

A little out of point though, but I would like a fraps tutorial I know shit about how to use it, and I really want to make a heli video about Solo TV guiding (without all that 'aim slightly to the left of your target' bullshit), insane circle strafing i do in the chopper and stuff

2006-05-18 18:40:23

#82

arson: Member; +99|7116|New York

DERR wrote:
DaReJa wrote:
A.
Okay, What does a J-10's Manueverability Have to do with Missles Turning Away As Soon As They Hit The Tail?

B.
The F-35 Took down The J-10 OMG WTF Wow Amazing.

C.
I go Into a Server Where My Ping Is Higher, Missles Miss, I Go Into A Server Where My Ping Is Lower, They ALL Hit.

Now, Tell me what that has to do With Manueverabilty?
completely agree

Interesting DERR that today you set up your BF2S forum account. You wouldn't happen to be someone else looking to create support for their own post now would you?

2006-05-18 18:40:32

#83

Naughty_Om: Im Ron Burgundy?; +355|7113|USA

seriously.....the thread went nowhere...FAST

***about choppers***** if you switch to co-pilot, the missle loses lock. you cannot be locked onto....fun little trick ive learned.

Last edited by Naughty_Om (2006-05-18 18:41:24)

2006-05-18 18:41:55

#84

DaReJa: BF2s US Server Admin; +257|7107|Los Angeles, California, US.

spawnofthemist wrote:
DaReJa wrote:
spawnofthemist wrote:

The questions is... have YOU
Uhhmmm, Yes. I gave it already. Oh, And Nothing is Hearsay.
hmm and so far (off topic) the person whose negative karma you're trying to beat (while still on positive)(/off topic) has dismissed what you say as rubbish.. and i believe the bear..

but yeah.. where the secret to flying jets i was hoping for from this horribly misnamed flamefest of a thread?

Title doesnt always have 100% Everything to do with the Thread. And, I'm Offering a Slight Solution to the Jets being Unbalanced.

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2006-05-18 18:42:29

#85

Defiance: Member; +438|7151

DaReJa wrote:
Omg Will you STFU already.

OMG will you atleast give a reason for neg repping someone instead of hiding behind your keyboard?

You are the type of person that ruins this forum!

I'm arguing with facts, you're arguing with arrogance!

And I had the decency not to yet neg-rep you. Although, that's a bad thing because you want neg rep. And you have no hope of beating polar. Don't even try.

Speaking of which polar, expect a PM in a few mins about fraps.

2006-05-18 18:43:38

#86

polarbearz: Raiders of the Lost Bear; +-1,474|7269|Singapore

LaidBackNinja wrote:
Sorry, that should have been server based. The hitbox detection seems to be server based. I'm guessing the same is true for the missile tracking system, in which case it doesn't really matter what is going on on YOUR screen, because your missiles see the 'true' picture anyway and should have no trouble following the enemy jet regardless of ping?

I've been trying to say this but its not coming out right so you're not getting me. I'll try to put it in the simplest of scenarios, you're flying straight behind the bogey, he's flying straight. You fire the missiles STILL flying straight because you see him unchanging, but in ACTUAL fact, he already banked off, flared, dived or something along those lines.

So it doesn't matter what the missile 'sees' but what really matters is the position that you THOUGHT was optimal has already changed, you don't have a good look on him anymore AND you're firing your missiles, so your missiles won't latch on him properly.

Get what I'm trying to say? Its not what the missiles 'see' as much as the compromised position in which you're trying to fire the missiles in.

2006-05-18 18:43:40

#87

LaidBackNinja: Pony Slaystation; +343|7189|Charlie One Alpha

I'm guessing nobody is really interested in actually discussing ping and it's influence on the missile tracking anymore?

EDIT in reply to polarbearz:
Ah okay, I get it now. You are reasoning from the assumption that the position from which you fire your missiles is crucial for their chance to hit. So you are in agreement with me that the missiles' actual ABILITY TO TRACK THE ENEMY jet is not ping-depandant, only the position from which you fire your missiles may be sub-optimal because of ping?

Last edited by LaidBackNinja (2006-05-18 18:46:52)

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2006-05-18 18:43:45

#88

panderiz: Member; +32|7246

This is retarded.

they are unbalanced, simple, any arguement to the contrary is plain bullshit.

especially coming from absolute muppet pilots.

2006-05-18 18:43:47

#89

spawnofthemist: Banned; +1,128|7122|Burmecia, Land of the Rain

DaReJa wrote:
spawnofthemist wrote:
DaReJa wrote:
Uhhmmm, Yes. I gave it already. Oh, And Nothing is Hearsay.
hmm and so far (off topic) the person whose negative karma you're trying to beat (while still on positive)(/off topic) has dismissed what you say as rubbish.. and i believe the bear..

but yeah.. where the secret to flying jets i was hoping for from this horribly misnamed flamefest of a thread?
Title doesnt always have 100% Everything to do with the Thread. And, I'm Offering a Slight Solution to the Jets being Unbalanced.

and what was your solution.. oh yeah get faster internet.. thats a great solution

now can anyone direct me to a DECENT and WORTHWHILE jet help section

**edit: jus found the very helpful Wiki entry by Zenmaster.. must karma that guy sometime**

Last edited by spawnofthemist (2006-05-18 18:45:20)

2006-05-18 18:44:17

#90

DaReJa: BF2s US Server Admin; +257|7107|Los Angeles, California, US.

Defiance wrote:
You are the type of person that ruins this forum!

And You arent? I'm trying to Help you all out. And you come on With your BS.

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2006-05-18 18:45:21

#91

Naughty_Om: Im Ron Burgundy?; +355|7113|USA

ok everyone. stop posting in this thread AND LET IT DIE>>>ITS USELESS>

2006-05-18 18:45:25

#92

polarbearz: Raiders of the Lost Bear; +-1,474|7269|Singapore

panderiz wrote:
especially coming from absolute muppet pilots.

I wanna be miss piggy.

2006-05-18 18:47:05

#93

DaReJa: BF2s US Server Admin; +257|7107|Los Angeles, California, US.

Naughty_Om wrote:
ok everyone. stop posting in this thread AND LET IT DIE>>>ITS USELESS>

So why do you want this Thread Closed so much? If you dont want this Thread, Dont Post in it.

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2006-05-18 18:48:28

#94

Naughty_Om: Im Ron Burgundy?; +355|7113|USA

for your own good. and its taking up webspace.

2006-05-18 18:48:48

#95

Hurricane: Banned; +1,153|7110|Washington, DC

You're an idiot Dareja.

Last edited by ExecutionerStyle (2006-05-18 18:48:57)

2006-05-18 18:49:03

#96

LaidBackNinja: Pony Slaystation; +343|7189|Charlie One Alpha

LaidBackNinja wrote:
I'm guessing nobody is really interested in actually discussing ping and it's influence on the missile tracking anymore?

EDIT in reply to polarbearz:
Ah okay, I get it now. You are reasoning from the assumption that the position from which you fire your missiles is crucial for their chance to hit. So you are in agreement with me that the missiles' actual ABILITY TO TRACK THE ENEMY jet is not ping-depandant, only the position from which you fire your missiles may be sub-optimal because of ping?

Polarbearz, can you confirm this or am I still not getting you?

"If you want a vision of the future, imagine SecuROM slapping your face with its dick -- forever." -George Orwell

2006-05-18 18:49:11

#97

panderiz: Member; +32|7246

As long as I get to be kermet (is that spelt right...) ;-) grrrr

2006-05-18 18:49:25

#98

spawnofthemist: Banned; +1,128|7122|Burmecia, Land of the Rain

polarbearz wrote:
panderiz wrote:
especially coming from absolute muppet pilots.
I wanna be miss piggy.

congrats on breaking -600 karma ^_^

and can i be the cookie monster?

2006-05-18 18:49:43

#99

polarbearz: Raiders of the Lost Bear; +-1,474|7269|Singapore

LaidBackNinja wrote:
EDIT in reply to polarbearz:
Ah okay, I get it now. You are reasoning from the assumption that the position from which you fire your missiles is crucial for their chance to hit. So you are in agreement with me that the missiles' actual ABILITY TO TRACK THE ENEMY jet is not ping-depandant, only the position from which you fire your missiles may be sub-optimal because of ping?

Yes I agree with you fully. I never doubted the fact that the missiles ability to track was not due to ping, just that the positions that the ping makes you 'appear' to be in will definitely be consequential.

2006-05-18 18:49:54

#100

Defiance: Member; +438|7151

DaReJa wrote:
Defiance wrote:
You are the type of person that ruins this forum!
And You arent? I'm trying to Help you all out. And you come on With your BS.

You tried, but you are wrong and we can agree on that.

Low ping will help, but the fact remains that the jets are still unbalanced, and the F-35 will not be better then the J-10 just because of low ping.

And when I try to say this with moderate agression because of you're stubbourness, you give me negrep with no reason then post right after me making it obvious it was you.

I don't like you.

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