your definition of 'massive' is somewhat hyperbolic, methinks
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64 player all out war? Massive compared to other video games that only go up to 32 or less.Uzique wrote:
your definition of 'massive' is somewhat hyperbolic, methinks
if it was 64 player on a 64-player map size, like bf2 was, then sure i'd give you the "massive scale fps". 64 players cramped onto an xbox360 map with every flag within spitting distance doesn't say "massive" to me. the only "massive" part about 3/4's of the maps is the miles of empty, featureless mountain/desert/sea surrounding every map. let's be honest here: bf3 is not "massive". it's a game with decently sized maps ('decent' considering maps have to be a certain size to feature vehicles, so you can't compare fairly to, say, call of duty) and a nice server-sided capacity mod thrown in for the pc crowd so that they can over-populate every map with 3x the intended number of players.
Last edited by Uzique (2011-11-03 21:17:45)
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that's why we're getting wake and karkand, etc
I think it all works just fine sir. Personal opinions mean nothing really. If you like it, play it. If not, don't.Uzique wrote:
if it was 64 player on a 64-player map size, like bf2 was, then sure i'd give you the "massive scale fps". 64 players cramped onto an xbox360 map with every flag within spitting distance doesn't say "massive" to me. the only "massive" part about 3/4's of the maps is the miles of empty, featureless mountain/desert/sea surrounding every map.
The maps are much smaller than bf2's
the game feels more like bc3 with forced crawling than a sequel to bf3
the game feels more like bc3 with forced crawling than a sequel to bf3
This game is Bad Company 3. They just happened to call it Battlefield 3.
maybe they should've called bad company bf3 and this bf4
developer has already stated that all the classic maps are being changed to "fall in with the new bf3 vision". each classic map will only have a maximum of 5 cap points (bye bye 64 size karkand w/ factory). everyone keeps fucking harping on about this map-pack as if it'll be the saviour and delivery of bf3's long-intended promise... it's already come to surface that it won't be anything of the sort. plus, people are already expressing their discontent with the 9 vanilla maps and are 'waiting on' some maps that were originally designed 7 years ago? lol. top-rate title here.AussieReaper wrote:
that's why we're getting wake and karkand, etc
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The map design is still better than Bad Company 2 at least. The tunnel shit still sucks though. And a map like Operation Firestorm needs the flags spaced out even farther.
I am really turned off by how tactical the game tries to be. Hiding behind stuff and crawling around is a must it seems. I liked BF2's run and gun type of gameplay. Medic trains cutting through whole teams back in BF2 was fun. Those just don't seem possible now.
Last edited by Macbeth (2011-11-03 21:40:26)
nope, that's true. you get cut down way too fast, you can't move as fast or with as much agility, and the maps don't really allow those sort of wide flanking tactics, anyway. it definitely is a very different playstyle.
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That's why I was raging so much during the beta. They had us playing on the worst map on Infantry only on my least favorite game mode. Everything seemed slow, boring and impossible to flank. I'm getting better at infantry though, pulling 2 K/Ds regularly now after about 30 hours of play.
Its no BF2 that's for sure.
Its no BF2 that's for sure.
Last edited by Roc18 (2011-11-03 21:47:18)
it's not hard to pull a good k/d with anything in this game if you work it appropriately... infantry or not. inf on metro for example i go 5:1K/D everytime using shit like the shotgun, just for jokes. the game doesn't have a learning curve like bf2, which is my sole and main problem. it's an enjoyable enough game (played right, i.e. < 64 players) but the serious balance issues with things like night-vision scopes and the general gameplay means it's hard to play it as anything more than a kick-back chill console game. really that would be nothing to complain about if it was bad company 3, or advertised as any new current-gen fps (they're all the same shit), but this is battlefield 3. this is the game that DICE have been shouting off the rooftops about for like 5 years. "just wait, we're developing something very slowly, a real sequel to bf2, for all the real battlefield players, for the hardcore pc gamer"...
... then we get this. i just wish they'd stopped blowing their fucking horn so much about it and admitted that it's yet-another-fps-game.
... then we get this. i just wish they'd stopped blowing their fucking horn so much about it and admitted that it's yet-another-fps-game.
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lol I've learned not to trust dice statements. Remember this statement?
Scar-H, IRNV, it's sad.
I actually wonder what sort of quality testing they perform on the game and who does it. I play on the PS3 and it's amazing how many steps back they actually took from BC2 in terms of polish. For instance, in BC2 whenever a squad mate talked there would be a little sound icon by their name in the lower left squad table. Cool, you know who said what right? In BF3 the talking icon is gone. Whenever someone says something you have to ask who said what. It makes playing with randoms that much harder. Little things like that can make a world of difference.
Last edited by Macbeth (2011-11-03 22:04:35)
i mostly use IRNV with the scar, the saw, and then m4. engi rape, support rape, assault rape. triple sadness.
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at least you have VOIP and some form of communication-teamwork functionality. we have nothing. you can't even call for a medic/ammo unless you're near and looking at a support/assault guy (hard to identify at a glance) and then mash 'q'. then it doesn't seem to work anyway because they never give the fucking shit. working with and talking to your squad on pc is limited to text-chat. in a really shitty text box. that disappears/refreshes in about 3 seconds. teamwork does not exist in this game.Macbeth wrote:
I actually wonder what sort of quality testing they perform on the game and who does it. I play on the PS3 and it's amazing how many steps back they actually took from BC2 in terms of polish. For instance, in BC2 whenever a squad mate talked there would be a little sound icon by their name in the lower left squad table. Cool, you know who said what right? In BF3 the talking icon is gone. Whenever someone says something you have to ask who said what. It makes playing with randoms that much harder. Little things like that can make a world of difference.
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I didn't know the PC was that bad off. How they actually managed to go backwards from BF2 in regards to the comm rose, voip, and text chat is amazing.
Amazing In a bad way.
Amazing In a bad way.
I've never used the IRNV scope for any of my guns.
just on the mortar?Adams_BJ wrote:
I've never used the IRNV scope for any of my guns.
don't need it on the mortarAussieReaper wrote:
just on the mortar?Adams_BJ wrote:
I've never used the IRNV scope for any of my guns.
hey buddy this was made for pc gamers by pc gamers because, well, fuck those console brats!Macbeth wrote:
I didn't know the PC was that bad off. How they actually managed to go backwards from BF2 in regards to the comm rose, voip, and text chat is amazing.
Amazing In a bad way.
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