Happy Thanks Giving

2011-11-24 02:19:29

#26

Chardee MacDennis: Green Man; +130|4941|Always Sunny in Philadelphia

working. suck mah crank.

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What A Long Strange Trip It's Been

2011-11-24 02:24:56

#27

1stSFOD-Delta: Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales; +376|6365|Blue Mountain State

Went on patrol. Suck mah crank.

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Baba Booey

2011-11-24 02:25:09

#28

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6988|132 and Bush

Macbeth wrote:
Kmar wrote:
no dil i am not. I was talking about total numbers. Brush up on your US Colonial history.

Dominique de Gourgue was one of my favorite new world religious zealots.
Philip II of Spain was a Catholic king who hated Protestants and considered them heretics, including the French Huguenots. His troops were ordered to kill any they found in the colonies. Thus, in 1565 there was a notorious massacre around Fort Caroline in what is now Jacksonville, Florida, by troops under Pedro Menéndez de Avilés. After capturing the fort and slaying nearly all his prisoners, Menéndez hung their bodies on trees, with the inscription, “Not as Frenchmen but as Lutherans.” The massacre aroused indignation in France among Protestants and Roman Catholics alike. The king sent complaints to the Spanish court, but Menéndez and his associates, instead of being punished for the deed, received rewards and honors
And Beth, the Spanish were good to the Natives because they needed them to help find New world treasures, ie gold. Queen Isabella herself insisted that Columbus bring pigs to NA (Queen Isabellas Pigs), and the disease they spread was responsible for wiping out more natives than anything else.
What an incredibility bias piece of text to quote. "Philip II of Spain was a Catholic king who hated Protestants and considered them heretics". Well the Hapsburgs and the rest of the Catholic were trying their best to stop the reformation during the whole reformation wars. The HRE and Philips father, Charles V, was also trying to stop the reformation in Germany since it undermined Imperial power. The Lutherians would have done the exact same things to do a Spanish fort.

I remember from some of my readings, how Charles V, made the proclamation of 15something that declared the rights of the natives, forbade their slavery and forced labor, and tried to increase their conversation. This was made in response to falsified reports by Spanish monks of Spanish cruelty towards the natives. (the church in 'New Spain' was having power struggles with the generals). Also the Spanish initial intentions wasn't the complete conquest of the new world but instead forced vassalage. The Spanish scheme of controlling the native's through their leadership blew up into a full war. Furthermore the natives and their offspring always had higher social status than blacks regardless of the freedom status of the blacks.

I'm not saying the Spanish weren't responsible for a lot of natives deaths, intentionally or unintentionally, but as far as legal rights and in on a de facto level the natives of the Spanish colonies were much better off than the natives of any other colony.

Well that's wikipedia.. if you want context read the book I linked. It was meant as a small illustration to dil. To show how the Euro's used religion to further global supremacy.

Which countries were forcing the Natives in to slave labor? I can't think of any examples right now. I know that the British were in cooperation with many of the Native tribes.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-11-24 02:25:41

#29

Chardee MacDennis: Green Man; +130|4941|Always Sunny in Philadelphia

1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
Went on patrol. Suck mah crank.

owned

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2011-11-24 02:26:28

#30

1stSFOD-Delta: Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales; +376|6365|Blue Mountain State

It was either that or LZ duty. fuck that

Baba Booey

2011-11-24 02:27:40

#31

Chardee MacDennis: Green Man; +130|4941|Always Sunny in Philadelphia

or being next to faggot aussies

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2011-11-24 02:28:08

#32

1stSFOD-Delta: Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales; +376|6365|Blue Mountain State

yeah

Baba Booey

2011-11-24 02:33:51

#33

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5973

Kmar wrote:
Which countries were forcing the Natives in to slave labor? I can't think of any examples right now. I know that the British were in cooperation with many of the Native tribes.

Portugal, Spain, and a little bit by GB. The GB attempt didn't go so well and was pretty isolated in the new world. It was tried by colonist in one of the southern colonies. The colonist found that the native americans weren't as submissive as Africa slaves and indentured servents and would often revolt or flee to Spanish Florida. Eventually they gave up.

Spain and Portugal were forcing natives into slavery initially since the whole triangle trade thing didn't really come into existence by the time they made first contact.

2011-11-24 02:41:29

#34

Chardee MacDennis: Green Man; +130|4941|Always Sunny in Philadelphia

did i see you playing bf3 on ps3?

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2011-11-24 02:43:09

#35

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5973

I played a little today. I got frustrated with it after an hour though. As soon as I sign in I always look to see in your online but haven't caught you yet.

2011-11-24 02:46:58