E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|7168|UK
Honestly, how many of you can say you defend in the game? On maps such as karkand, when you're MEC, do you spawn at hotel and try and infantry? or do you stay back and wait for them to come for you 99% of you will charge from the hotel. On this map, If I am in armour. I'll mine the water crossing and blow the bridge then wait at the factory - Defence

On Cleansweep, how many of you charge to the end of the island, leaving all the other flags exposed to that sneaky chopper that got round the back? - On this map if I am in chopper, I'll hang around between the two islands and wait for any choppers to try and come round so I can TV them to their death. - Defence

On wake, how many of you run off to snipe on the peninsulas, only to discover 5 minutes later, the beach and the airfield have been taken, you have no uav and you're probably going to lose.

The amount of times I've seen this happen is phenominal - It makes me so angry especially when flags are being taken, USMC are spawning at the flags but people still insist on camping with an m95 trying to shoot down a black hawk.

wtf man?
=|A mere Shadow|=
The Anarchist
+121|7106|Britain and Damn proud of it!
On wake i usually defend the Sb and beach i claymore the Sb and wait for any boats/helis snipe the drivers giving me free pickings to the other occupants

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Last edited by =|A mere Shadow|= (2006-05-21 14:18:09)

CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|7050|Portland, OR, USA
congrats, i get points by not defending
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|7171|Devon, England
well, its all about the points. whether you like it or not, people will always choose points over waiting at a flag for ages. the only time i use defense that drasticly is in a clan match, as points mean nothing to me.

if im flying a jet and one of my clan mates is commander, the enemy wont get a flag as long as he does his job properly. if its a map like karkland, then if my commander tells me sum1 is goin for a flag, il go all suicidal, purposly trying to die (thats my excuse anyway) and will spawn at the flag, or the one closest to it.

the hotel flag is a vital part of karkland, as most USMC will try to get that flag first. there will only be a handfull who go for other flags. if the whole team went for other flags, then the MEC would have a very hard time.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7200|California

fuck defending, taking back points is alot more enjoyable
Naughty_Om
Im Ron Burgundy?
+355|7113|USA
defense is something not part of the game.......the best defense is offense
Kobrakai
Weirdo
+152|7269|England
I used to hang back and defend quite a lot, thats why my SPM sucks.
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|7046|England

Well technically, I defend the City Entrance on Sharqi with AT against the APC and Tank that come charging at you...does that count?
Same with the TV Station using the mounted gun against all the fools going over the cliffs (die sukkas )

But only for as long as its needed...its not necessary if you've got a UAV and a decent commander and you know that no troops are within 9999999metres of that CP. Because you are doing nothing for your team, when you could be out killing/reviving/healing/capturing....etc. Which is a lot more beneficial to your teams success.

Last edited by Snake (2006-05-21 14:25:10)

alpinestar
Member
+304|7076|New York City baby.
5 words
karkand mec medic AK-101 offense
Slashed06
Member
+44|7038
That is even more frustratin when your commander. You ask a squad to defend a flag...put UAV up and they just run off so you have to do it yourself. Then get asked....why are you fighting
Des.Kmal
Member
+917|7098|Atlanta, Georgia, USA
you spelled defense wrong.
Add me on Origin for Battlefield 4 fun: DesKmal
FromTheAshes
Member
+53|7185
I rush and kill anything in my way
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|7133
Defending = getting arty'd
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
LaidBackNinja
Pony Slaystation
+343|7190|Charlie One Alpha

SargeV1.4 wrote:

Defending = getting arty'd
QFT
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine SecuROM slapping your face with its dick -- forever." -George Orwell
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|7046|England

Slashed06 wrote:

That is even more frustratin when your commander. You ask a squad to defend a flag...put UAV up and they just run off so you have to do it yourself. Then get asked....why are you fighting
I personally about 90% of the time, do what the commander asks (providing my kit can do it...if im a medic, i cant lay mines or repair an asset...). The commander *should* know best about whats going on, so if he says to defend an area - there must be lots of enemies there. Kills + points for defended/captured CP's.
Bargain.

But yeah, it is frustrating. I was commander on Wake today....north base was clear for the first 10minutes pr so. Not one enemy went there - told my 7 squads to attack it...told them via VOIP and ingame text messages...not 1 squad went for it.
I left UAV's and a few supply crates there....nothing. Its not that they got shot down or killed....they literally NEVER went near it.
We lost without ever taking a CP, something ridiculous like 200-0.
Useless team - they got the "Worst Squad" message for about the last 30secs of the match. Useless cunts.
I believe the highest score on our team was about 30 and most kills was 10 (except for my arty) - on a 32v32 match. Its times like that that make you scream and switch teams.

Last edited by Snake (2006-05-21 14:36:57)

.;|2UGE|2;.
Member
+1|7034
no comment *thinks* *sighs* still dont know what to say
legionair
back to i-life
+336|7104|EU

When there is good commander and I have been ordered to defend, I do it.
On Karkand I firstly wait at Suburbs, there will allways be some occupants trying to get that flag. If MEC lose it, USMC probably wins, because they dont need to die at Hotel.
When I play sniper, I choose some good place from where I can defend at least 2 CPs.

P.S- I would like to ask- which flags in each map are vital and less vital, I mean- tickets going down faster!? If you know that... Because sometimes you can defend only some points and that is enough to win a round.

Thanks

Last edited by sdlettonieCZLV (2006-05-21 14:38:19)

VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|7186|Antarctica
I always defend if I have a decent crew and something needs defending, otherwise its almost impossible to def a point unless you have a commander who spots.
JaM3z
Banned
+311|7191
In game i ill userally go commander and defend back flags on my own, in a clan match i allways defend back flags and smother them with C4.

When attacking a clan match such as karkand ill smack u UAV right up there ass and take market (if karkand) and ill be squad leader so everyone will spawn on me, boom flag down another tank then we pretty much win.....
comet241
Member
+164|7245|Normal, IL
i agree, i play defense a lot, especially on karkand and sharqi, and im surprised how often i get a medal (top 3) for it, by strategically placing mines, charges, and myself in locations that maximize my ability to defend flags or bottlenecks. D-FENCE!!!!!
InviSniper
The first true Sniper.
+95|7124|Cumberland, MD, USA
I play defense a lot, especially on Karkand. I'll hop up onto the building across from the Hotel flag and 95% of the time the people will come up that ladder rather than the flag ladder itself. Easy kills for me!
genius_man16
Platinum Star whore
+365|7158|Middle of nowhere
i would play defence, but 99% of the time, i'm the only one defending, and when 5 guys come to cap the flag i'm boned (hey, i'm not THAT good)

but when i play with my friends, i'll happily defend a point b/c there is more people


it's not a question of points for me, it's a question of manpower, and i almost never have that
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7269|Singapore

Fucking defending. I'm bringing the war to your doorstep. Effectively of course.

I agree with busting the bridge and mining the watercrossing @ Gatehouse, but I'm bringing the armor to the frontlines rather than allow the infantry at hotel to get raped (resulting in massive bleed = loss).

For all other cases, I don't believe in sitting back and letting them come at me. If the AH-17 goes down in cleansweep, rest assured the MEC chopper is coming RIGHT up to cause havoc (pun pun) on your airfield).
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|7168|UK

polarbearz wrote:

Fucking defending. I'm bringing the war to your doorstep. Effectively of course.

I agree with busting the bridge and mining the watercrossing @ Gatehouse, but I'm bringing the armor to the frontlines rather than allow the infantry at hotel to get raped (resulting in massive bleed = loss).

For all other cases, I don't believe in sitting back and letting them come at me. If the AH-17 goes down in cleansweep, rest assured the MEC chopper is coming RIGHT up to cause havoc (pun pun) on your airfield).
LOL. I hover around just so I can hit all the choppers with TV.

Since Ive got a new found love for the AK101 on karkand I just go and kill everyone. I often beat the raping armour whores with that gun
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7269|Singapore

But it actualloy takes extra effort to hit the chopper with the TV missile I'd rather rape them as they spawn Saves me time and effort.

Oooooo killing a tank with thw AK? HAXHAXHAXHAXHAX.

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