Kamikazi Clan Server are Cowards

2005-10-28 06:51:26

#1

FireDawg: Member; +0|7023

I had Mother (Kamakazi) on board the Havoc as my gunner and we were holding the US team at thier spawn point.. Now they do say "No Uncappable Flag Killing" so I was waiting until they were out of the gate or rotors were turning.. The game before that they slaugtered the MEC team so I wasn't goin to let them travel far out on the map.. Now I am an exceptional Chopper pilot and was kickin thier tails and guess what...

They Banned Me!!!!!

These Guys Are Cowards Don't Play In Thier Server!!!!

2005-10-28 07:05:27

#2

SilentAssassin03: Member; +0|7048|California

Well, it does seem you were spawn killing. I would have banned you too. I hate it when a helo pilot just sits there and camps. This happend to me on Sharqi. A helo pilot was spawn camping on the US helo base. It's annoying. Don't camp.

2005-10-28 07:11:49

#3

dsb: Member; +0|7044

I can't believe there is going to be another "spawn-camp" discussion...

If you were US on sharqi and pinned down in the TV station, was the MEC team supposed to just clear out and let you take back a few bases?

If you don't want to get spawn camped, don't get locked into one base. There's nothing wrong with a helo providing cover fire for ground troops trying to get into a building, ESPECIALLY AT THE TV STATION ON SHARQI.

I don't get people who are basically saying that after the opposition has beaten them back into one base, they should stop because, well geez, they're getting mad...waaaaaa

2005-10-28 07:13:58

#4

Foo-Fighter(UK): Boom...Headshot!; +0|7110|Sunderland, UK

i know, its the most anoying this when you are trying to get out of your ONLY base and some camper/raper keeps you pinned in

Dickheads

2005-10-28 07:18:25

#5

dsb: Member; +0|7044

Foo-Fighter(UK) wrote:
i know, its the most anoying this when you are trying to get out of your ONLY base and some camper/raper keeps you pinned in

Dickheads

let's imagine a scenario in say...I don't know...WWII.

Allied Troops have Nazi troops pinned down in their last base in eastern France. They've beaten them back and driven them from every other town/village/fort that they controlled and pinned them in this one base. All of a sudden, some Nazi ass goes "You guys stop it. It's not fair. Let us get our s**t together."

So, the Allied forces pack up their shit and leave so the poor Nazis can catch their breath and run amock some more.

__END SCENARIO__

Please.

Last edited by dsb (2005-10-28 07:18:48)

2005-10-28 07:27:17

#6

Azr4eL: Member; +0|7059|Italy

Ok, registered, and you have all my solidarity! No play on Kamikazi server.

Something similar appen to me in the [ Italian] Devils Clan (Dvl): No rules was written on the welcome screen, so I play MEC and spawn on the airfield, take the MiG 29 and go for some kills. After a while i was shooted down, so re-spawn, see a couple of guy with the clan tag that waiting for plane, but I was faster... or just lucky. Take-off, searching for enemies... Kicked. WTF? Maibe an error... Re-connect, side switches to US (autoswitch), the F35 was on the runaway unused. Oh, well... Let's do it again!! I manage to shoot down the MiG-29 3 times then... wtf!!! Kicked?? Again??? Maibe room for clanmates... No, i can re-connect. US again... wait for plane... a guy with the clantag teamkilled me for the plane... ... One important thing: NO ONE TELL ME A WORD about the planes! Is an italian server and i talk to all in italian, so they know how to speak with me!
After i have explain in clear word how they can phisically use theyr joystick (....) I was kicked again.

Listen to me: You want to fly the (drive the) plane/heli (tank/APC)? ASK FOR IT!!

Last edited by Azr4eL (2005-10-28 07:28:51)

2005-10-28 07:43:29

#7

Azr4eL: Member; +0|7059|Italy

Foo-Fighter(UK) wrote:
i know, its the most anoying this when you are trying to get out of your ONLY base and some camper/raper keeps you pinned in

Dickheads

PINNED IN is a thing... RAPE and SPAWNCAMPING is another. In a normal base (TV building in Sharqi) you can do ANYTHING. But in the same map is UNFAIR to spawncamp the Heli base of the MEC, 'couse is a UNTAKEABLE base. Make a rush, destroy everything but DO NOT CAMP!

Glossary:
Make a RUSH Run in an enemy base, destroy assets, veicles, kill as many bandits you can THEN RUN AWAY to a safer location
SPAWNCAMPING Sneak in an enemy base, HIDE in and (or too NEAR) and codardly kill everyone from his back.

If anyone have better definition (my english is too poor) is welcome.

2005-10-28 08:36:51

#8

cohen1976: Member; +14|7035

SilentAssassin03 wrote:
Well, it does seem you were spawn killing. I would have banned you too. I hate it when a helo pilot just sits there and camps. This happend to me on Sharqi. A helo pilot was spawn camping on the US helo base. It's annoying. Don't camp.

the us TV base on Sharqi is a flag u can capture maybe spawn kiling but allowed imo.

2005-10-28 09:58:03

#9

Miakei: Member; +1|7090|Los Angeles, CA

Spawn camping is a sticky issue. What really constitutes spawn camping? I mean, if you're down to one base, and the enemy just gathers around it for a big circle jerk of destruction, then yes, thats spawn camping. I mean, the way I figure it, if you are running in to cap the base, and kill people who spawn on the way, that's legit. One guy spawned right in front of me while I was making my way to the flag, so I popped him. Immediately he sent over the chat 'f*ing spawn camper' I replied, you spawned in front of me, what am I supposed to do? Offer you tea and cake?'

I guess it all depends on the situation. I mean, if it's 1 guy and he's hiding out in the spawn point, waiting for the opportunity to cap it, that's cool. But when it's them herding you into 1 spot, then forming a perimeter around the flag, and firing inward, that's blatant spawn camping/padding.

2005-10-28 10:11:03

#10

RadeonII: Member; +1|7042

I would say spawn camping is the dude in armor that sits to far to capture the check point but close enough to see who spawns in. with no intention of over taking the cp

2005-10-28 10:13:34

#11

dsb: Member; +0|7044

Miakei wrote:
I guess it all depends on the situation. I mean, if it's 1 guy and he's hiding out in the spawn point, waiting for the opportunity to cap it, that's cool. But when it's them herding you into 1 spot, then forming a perimeter around the flag, and firing inward, that's blatant spawn camping/padding.

I'm not really saying it isn't, I just don't see the logic behind "let the other team kick the shit out of us for awhile so they don't feel bad."

Of course being base-raped sucks...it's irritating as hell. But shit happens. If I'm on a team that got beat so bad that we were eventually trapped in an uncappable...sucks for us. It's happened to me and yeah it's pretty frustrating, but I don't really expect "my enemy" to not try and kill me.

2005-10-28 10:20:56

#12

FireDawg: Member; +0|7023

Iy was a pinned in situation, I don't spawn camp.. I got back in the server and I asked them if thier chopper got free and clear repairs if they are at a non cap flag.. I got no reply.. I can get out of any base no matter the situation...

Last edited by FireDawg (2005-10-28 10:21:22)

2005-10-28 10:28:45

#13

Miakei: Member; +1|7090|Los Angeles, CA

dsb,

In that instance, yeah. I mean, they're going to go and try and wipe you out at an uncappable. I'm saying at a perfectly Capturable Base, they decide not to cap it, and just gather round.

In as far as base raping goes, I'm all for the denial of enemy assets. UAV, Radar, Arty, hell, the tanks, planes and Helos as well. That's just keeping them at a disadvantage. Yeah it's a game, but at the same time, if they wanted to find you, it wouldn't be too hard. UAV over the area, and a squad to take you out.

Last edited by Miakei (2005-10-28 10:30:22)

2005-10-28 10:38:43

#14

dsb: Member; +0|7044

Miakei wrote:
dsb,

In that instance, yeah. I mean, they're going to go and try and wipe you out at an uncappable. I'm saying at a perfectly Capturable Base, they decide not to cap it, and just gather round.

Okay yeah that's pretty gay.

2005-10-28 10:42:26

#15

FireDawg: Member; +0|7023

This isn'tabout base raping its about being an admin gettin your butt whipped and booting aguy cause he is to good..

2005-10-28 10:52:13

#16

LeGrandAssidomaen: Paper Is My Hobbyhorse; +1|7074

Yeah, and to get back to the main topic: Banning someone for not playing the way you want him to is plain BS.
FireDawg has been banned for no reason at all. Spawn camping at an uncappable base is annoying, but it's NOT AGAINST ANY RULES! He was not cheating, teamkilling or anything that could justify a ban, so we simply have another server with idiot admins who are obviously abusing their power. That's it.

2005-10-28 10:54:23

#17

BB|EyeSeePeeDude: Member; +0|7027

Miakei wrote:
I replied, you spawned in front of me, what am I supposed to do? Offer you tea and cake?'

My nominee for quote of the week...

2005-10-28 15:21:08

#18

unforgiven5150: Member; +0|7046|Phoenix, AZ

I look at it this way, if it is an uncappable base, and the only one left, I don't spawn camp. I usually fortify the closest other spawn base so they can't take it. But I at least let them get out and try for it. More challenging for me. Raping is not.

If it is a base you can capture, I don't consider it raping or spawn camping.

2005-10-28 15:40:49

#19

Neoburn_1035: Medic!!!!!!!; +27|7096|OP, KS

Ok I don't think it is wrong to pin a team back at their only base. However I do think that spawn point camping is wrong. IF you don't let a team out of their base yeah that is war. But when some one is sitting at the exact spot that some is going to spawn at just to kill them before they even have a chance to take a single step now that is the worst thing there is. Please see this post also about the Kamikazi Clan Server.
Don't play on the Kamikaze Clan Server.

The point to this game is gain points just like every other game out there. So why even spawn point camp it just makes the round end early. You end up gaining less points in the long run. Because the round ends with alot of points on the board. Like Flag capuring, resupplies, heals, etc. etc. etc.

2005-10-28 17:14:00

#20

[Ahazi] Kaika: The Suicidal Soldier; +3|7028

Azr4eL wrote:
Ok, registered, and you have all my solidarity! No play on Kamikazi server.

After i have explain in clear word how they can phisically use theyr joystick (....) I was kicked again.

LOLOLOL That's awesome man

2005-10-28 21:57:23

#21

kontrolcrimson: Get your body beat.; +183|7095|Australia

internode (the servers i play on) states that spawn killing is classed to those who kill inside the red without kit weapons. kits are tolorated but only long enough for spec ops to do their thing. otherwise, have a nice holiday from node.

2005-10-28 22:57:09

#22

elmer1082: To The Front; +4|7023|Columbus, Indiana

DSB wrote:
let's imagine a scenario in say...I don't know...WWII.

Allied Troops have Nazi troops pinned down in their last base in eastern France. They've beaten them back and driven them from every other town/village/fort that they controlled and pinned them in this one base. All of a sudden, some Nazi ass goes "You guys stop it. It's not fair. Let us get our s**t together."

So, the Allied forces pack up their shit and leave so the poor Nazis can catch their breath and run amock some more.

__END SCENARIO__

Please.

Man I just registered so i could answer this.

Um Thats real life where your real life is on the line and your buddies life also. Remember folks this is entertainment.. a game. I know I know let the flaming begin, I can't believe I said this was a game.

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2005-10-29 06:35:26

#23

dsb: Member; +0|7044

elmer1082 wrote:
Man I just registered so i could answer this.

Sweet. Who would've thought I'd have so much impact on your life?

2005-11-01 13:27:42

#24

blacksheepcannibal: Member; +24|7019

Maybe its my backgrounds in DC. DC server had simple rules.

If a flag is uncapable, no base raping until there are no other flags left.

base raping is not denial-of-assets. base raping is use of a vehicle or weapon to repeatedly frag anybody in that base that spawns in.

if its a cappable base, rape all you want. ill spawn elsewhere. if its my last flag, well, my team sucks and we lose, and we deserve to lose.

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