BF2S Forums Code7: world's best bf2 team withdraw from bf2

[UCF]Dauntless wrote:

Yeah but if more than 10,000 people signed a petition to stop the changes, wheres the listening in that? They could of least made the patch optional or able to be set by the servers.

And what percentage is that of all people?  10,000 is very poor when consider how many registered players there are.  Okay so not every single player saw the petition, but I know 7 other BF2 players that live near me, all of them saw it and none of them signed it.

Whoever made that petition should publish the amount of hits the page got vs the amount of signatures.  I guarantee you, more people didn't sign than did.

P.S. If code7 can't adjust then they have no right saying they're the best.  UEFA change the rules of football (soccer) every season but you don't see clubs giving up because the offside rule has been changed.  Work as a proper team and then you wouldn't need to quit

niomosy wrote:

Vilham wrote:

niomosy wrote:

So, let's see.  They're not withdrawing from BF2, just from 8x8 competition.

Either way, who cares?  Wah, squad changes.  I guess they're deciding that they're not going to try to adapt and overcome. 

I see this as insignificant.

quite clearly not in a clan and therefore you dont understand how to play in a squad properly.

"Proper".

Apparently your definition of "proper" isn't the same as EA/Dice's.  Theirs wins

And, yes, I do know how clans use it.  I've played on a number of clan servers in squads with many of these clan members.  I've been one that uses it in squad play.   It doesn't really change my opinion.  Adapt and overcome.  If you're complaining that this will destroy teamwork, it's time to re-evaluate your definition of teamwork.  Teamwork will now entail keeping the SL alive as well.

Yeah well if you know about clan matches then you know its 8v8 or 5v5, that means you cant afford to not change squad leaders all the time. Eg.

Sharqi - USA starts with 3 bases, MEC starts with 1 base. Instant drain on MEC

You move forwards and die for the first time and you have already lost 20 tickets. If there wasnt squad leader spawning the team with less bases WOULD lose, its not even debatable, with 5 people in your whole team you rely on squad leader spawning completly. You cant afford to have 2 members go all the way to TV station around the side and then die. Thats the eqivilent of 3v5. This means that most leagues will now stop matches being played on any map with imballanced starts that leaves like 3 maps on 16 player size.

Without squad hopping clan matches are screwed.

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

[UCF]Dauntless wrote:

Yeah but if more than 10,000 people signed a petition to stop the changes, wheres the listening in that? They could of least made the patch optional or able to be set by the servers.

And what percentage is that of all people?  10,000 is very poor when consider how many registered players there are.  Okay so not every single player saw the petition, but I know 7 other BF2 players that live near me, all of them saw it and none of them signed it.

Whoever made that petition should publish the amount of hits the page got vs the amount of signatures.  I guarantee you, more people didn't sign than did.

P.S. If code7 can't adjust then they have no right saying they're the best.  UEFA change the rules of football (soccer) every season but you don't see clubs giving up because the offside rule has been changed.  Work as a proper team and then you wouldn't need to quit

well ofcourse seeing as a refresh counts as a hit on a webpage, so its gunna have far more depending on how many times each person views it.

And btw 10,000 ppl is a huge percent, most ppl have 2 or more accounts out of the 300,000:

blisteringsilence wrote:

Toxin wrote:

Wow...so there are nearly 250,000 people that have signed up but no longer active???  That's a huge assumtion.  Interesting.  I wonder what the reality is.  Hmmm.  In any case, there is only one thing that will ever matter....money.  The only way to really get their attention is to stop playing and stop buying.  Honestly, I don't beleve enough people would actually stand behind their word and "stop playing" if they remove squad hopping.

I have no idea. I came up with a [somewhat] random number. But, you figure in the number of kiddies that dropped BF2 for a new toy, those who operate with 3 or 4 PID's, those who only play once a month or so when the spirit strikes them, and those who just moved on, I figured 25% seemed like a reasonable number.

I'm curious now. I know its OT, but how many of the 326K registered PID's do YOU think are active? This isn't a fight, or argumentative, just intellectual wanking. I really want to know what others think.

Thats taken from my topic bout squad hopping about 1 month ago.

i'll bet the EA testers play ublic without squads and get killed by everything, that is why everything get's nerfed!

Vilham wrote:

niomosy wrote:

So, let's see.  They're not withdrawing from BF2, just from 8x8 competition.

Either way, who cares?  Wah, squad changes.  I guess they're deciding that they're not going to try to adapt and overcome. 

I see this as insignificant.

quite clearly not in a clan and therefore you dont understand how to play in a squad properly.

That's like saying that only people who play with the same team every single time know how to play football.

I think you're a little too full of yourself.

Vilham wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

[UCF]Dauntless wrote:

Yeah but if more than 10,000 people signed a petition to stop the changes, wheres the listening in that? They could of least made the patch optional or able to be set by the servers.

And what percentage is that of all people?  10,000 is very poor when consider how many registered players there are.  Okay so not every single player saw the petition, but I know 7 other BF2 players that live near me, all of them saw it and none of them signed it.

Whoever made that petition should publish the amount of hits the page got vs the amount of signatures.  I guarantee you, more people didn't sign than did.

P.S. If code7 can't adjust then they have no right saying they're the best.  UEFA change the rules of football (soccer) every season but you don't see clubs giving up because the offside rule has been changed.  Work as a proper team and then you wouldn't need to quit

well ofcourse seeing as a refresh counts as a hit on a webpage, so its gunna have far more depending on how many times each person views it.

And btw 10,000 ppl is a huge percent, most ppl have 2 or more accounts out of the 300,000:

Yes the figures look better for your argument if you highlight page refreshing and the fact that some (I wouldn't say most) people have more than one account, but I could just as easily come back and ask how many of the 10,000 were unique signings?  If you're really wound up about it you could sign it 10 times....

a press release
hahahahahahaha

Dr.Battlefield wrote:

niomosy wrote:

Dr.Battlefield wrote:

Does that mean that clans who win  are exploiters? They win because they know how to play. And EA is basically saying "They win too much... People who lose are whining. It's some sort of exploit, let's nerf it..."
*sigh*

Exploiters?  Not really.  It means that clans that won were using the mechanics of the game at that time.  The mechanics are changing.  It may be time for clans to adjust their tactics to keep winning as well.

Personally, I don't care one way or the other about the rotating SL thing.  I certainly wasn't someone complaining about it.  I've made my fair use of it but I'm not going to really be bothered by its loss.

I'm not saying that you're guilty in something for having a different opinion.

I just don't understand why EA look at crappy players and then make changes? To help them become better? Why don't EA look at good/average players and help them to get rid of bugs/glitches/lag issues? Oh, I know, EA will make more money on noobs, because there are much more noobs who will pay for new unlocks n stuff to "improve" their gameplay. (<--- that was an example. I'm not saying that ppl who use unlocks are noobs. I use unlocks too, but I can live without them. No offence.)

Heh, I know I'm allowed to have a different opinion.  Doesn't stop two -karma's on me for having a different opinion, though  

Like I was saying in another post, my conspiracy theory is that by making changes to squad play, EA/Dice are going to promote clans moving to 2142 to make use of the SL spawn beacon that can be placed anywhere and will stay so long as it isn't destroyed.

OMFG my clan played digintas at i27 UK largest LAN party!!!!!! They own sooooooo bad i think i have the demo's if anybody wants them!

On a more serious note that sucks but i can understand why they want to quit, my clan are thinking of the same thing and waiting for UT2k7 to released as EA are fucking this game, as soon as a clan can get used to one thing they change it and then we have to get used to a new form of gmaeplay, also the various bugs that still remain.

I think that many clans will follow in the footsepts of codeseven and although my clan never had the privalige of playing them i think that we might travel to stockholm to see them play as this should be a very very good game to watch.

We had a great game with them at i27 and have since adapted to there form of play and we hope to play them once again as soon as slot for us to challenge them in there busy diary becomes avalible.

I am surpirsed to see that digintas also got removed from the number one team in ClanBase, my clan aims to be up there in the top 20 as soon as we can were 50 something out of 480+ at the moment and still rising, the only game we have ever lost is to digintas and another Pro clan called SAS.

Hope to see the digintas boys around soon

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

Vilham wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

And what percentage is that of all people?  10,000 is very poor when consider how many registered players there are.  Okay so not every single player saw the petition, but I know 7 other BF2 players that live near me, all of them saw it and none of them signed it.

Whoever made that petition should publish the amount of hits the page got vs the amount of signatures.  I guarantee you, more people didn't sign than did.

P.S. If code7 can't adjust then they have no right saying they're the best.  UEFA change the rules of football (soccer) every season but you don't see clubs giving up because the offside rule has been changed.  Work as a proper team and then you wouldn't need to quit

well ofcourse seeing as a refresh counts as a hit on a webpage, so its gunna have far more depending on how many times each person views it.

And btw 10,000 ppl is a huge percent, most ppl have 2 or more accounts out of the 300,000:

Yes the figures look better for your argument if you highlight page refreshing and the fact that some (I wouldn't say most) people have more than one account, but I could just as easily come back and ask how many of the 10,000 were unique signings?  If you're really wound up about it you could sign it 10 times....

You can only sign up once per IP thats how.

Vilham wrote:

xaven wrote:

Dr.Battlefield wrote:

I just don't understand why EA look at crappy players and then make changes? To help them become better? Why don't EA look at good/average players and help them to get rid of bugs/glitches/lag issues? Oh, I know, EA will make more money on noobs, because there are much more noobs who will pay for new unlocks n stuff to "improve" their gameplay. (<--- that was an example. I'm not saying that ppl who use unlocks are noobs. I use unlocks too, but I can live without them. No offence.)

and that is the mistake in EA's thinking. they underestimate the influence of leagues / top clans / top players.

an example:why do people still play CS? they dont because its such a cool game (ok, maybe a small part of motivation), they do because its famous, its been the same game since years and thats why the community keeps on growing.

no top clans / matches = no coverage about the game = less new players for the game = community shrinks = game's dead

EXACTLY!

ppl dont understand that if clans leave they can say good bye to their game, who the hell do you think host all the servers. there are very few official servers.

If all the clans leave, all we'll need are the official servers anyway

Lol true but that will ruin the game, and i for one wont be playing it, either way though im probs not gunna play after 2142 comes out coz ill be playing that.

Patch 1.3 is gonna kill clan play *sigh*