day ruinedjord wrote:
You just seem to pop up every few weeks to spout some anti american shit. It's pretty tedious tbh.venom6 wrote:
Yes nowhere else in the world happens something like this only in the USA.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
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it must suck living in a shithole country
How bad! But god bless your police state!
He is right... Most countries would never argue if it was justified, as that kind of talk might get them thrown in jail... Besides, most countries wouldn't put up with shit, and would just yank her from the car and cane her in a public square or something.venom6 wrote:
Yes nowhere else in the world happens something like this only in the USA.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
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win stupid prizesit must suck living in a shithole countryvenom6 wrote:
Land of the free! God bless the USA!
Freedom. Liberty. Democracy.
How bad! But god bless your police state!
HITNRUNXX wrote:
He is right... Most countries would never argue if it was justified, as that kind of talk might get them thrown in jail... Besides, most countries wouldn't put up with shit, and would just yank her from the car and cane her in a public square or something.venom6 wrote:
Yes nowhere else in the world happens something like this only in the USA.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
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it must suck living in a shithole country
How bad! But god bless your police state!
A friend of mine who studied abroad in Russia said the same thing about that country.rdx-fx wrote:
Their 2nd biggest export is hot women,eleven bravo wrote:
eastern europe's biggest export is poverty
fleeing poor dudes with a marginal work ethic and absent personal hygiene.
Seriously, how can they have so many stunningly hot women, and so many men that look like they woke up on the wrong side of a dumpster?
So so true. All the girls in my program last summer were commenting incredulously about the prevalence of gorgeous women out in public with "troll-faced guys".Turquoise wrote:
A friend of mine who studied abroad in Russia said the same thing about that country.rdx-fx wrote:
Their 2nd biggest export is hot women,eleven bravo wrote:
eastern europe's biggest export is poverty
fleeing poor dudes with a marginal work ethic and absent personal hygiene.
Seriously, how can they have so many stunningly hot women, and so many men that look like they woke up on the wrong side of a dumpster?
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Yup, as soon as the Police got their hands on them they became a tool of coercion to be used first, not a last resort alternative to firearms.HITNRUNXX wrote:
I don't know how many training classes you have sat through on them, but I have been to a ton. The original development as an alternative to lethal weaponry was thrown out after the first year of them going mainstream to most departments. They ARE now considered a statistically safer alternative, for both the suspect and the officer than physical violence. This includes, but is not limited to guns, punching, clubs, asps, tackles, etc.
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Its OK, we know you're a violent authoritarian - no need to keep reminding us - and probably a good example of why ex-military shouldn't be allowed to join the PoliceSEREMAKER wrote:
HITNRUNXX wrote:
So, again, instead of just passing judgement from your computer chair, feel free to Monday-Morning Quarterback the appropriate action.Dilbert_X wrote:
Its not difficult, tasers are not supposed to be used to make it easy for cops to order people around - they're intended as a last resort before firearms are used.
Ok everybody that wants to commit a crime, it's cool, after you are done, just sit and wait. Nothing can be done to you. I know you robbed a store, but you aren't endangering anyone now that you made it back to your house, so hey, just ignore the polite knocks on your door asking you to go with them. And if you run out of food or something, just go to the store and get more. The police will be waiting for you, but all they can do is ask politely and if you say no, you can go about your business. Otherwise, they might have to touch you in some way that might be misconstrued as a violation of your rights. And so what if you interfere with other people's rights in this process? Shut down businesses, burn your neighbor's house down while they are at work. Whatever. It's cool. We allow you to break the law as long as you want. We will just wait, and eventually you will turn yourself in. Or not. Whatever.Dilbert_X wrote:
Yup, as soon as the Police got their hands on them they became a tool of coercion to be used first, not a last resort alternative to firearms.HITNRUNXX wrote:
I don't know how many training classes you have sat through on them, but I have been to a ton. The original development as an alternative to lethal weaponry was thrown out after the first year of them going mainstream to most departments. They ARE now considered a statistically safer alternative, for both the suspect and the officer than physical violence. This includes, but is not limited to guns, punching, clubs, asps, tackles, etc.
That wasn't the original intention at all.
The Police could have just sat and waited, instead of using a potentially lethal weapon on an unarmed person.
I know the profits of fast-food outlets and fat people getting their num-nums quickly are important, but hardly life or death.
I know too that Police like to be obeyed instantly, bad luck, they aren't Judge Dredd they're public servants.
HITNRUNXX wrote:
Ok everybody that wants to commit a crime, it's cool, after you are done, just sit and wait. Nothing can be done to you. I know you robbed a store, but you aren't endangering anyone now that you made it back to your house, so hey, just ignore the polite knocks on your door asking you to go with them. And if you run out of food or something, just go to the store and get more. The police will be waiting for you, but all they can do is ask politely and if you say no, you can go about your business. Otherwise, they might have to touch you in some way that might be misconstrued as a violation of your rights. And so what if you interfere with other people's rights in this process? Shut down businesses, burn your neighbor's house down while they are at work. Whatever. It's cool. We allow you to break the law as long as you want. We will just wait, and eventually you will turn yourself in. Or not. Whatever.Dilbert_X wrote:
Yup, as soon as the Police got their hands on them they became a tool of coercion to be used first, not a last resort alternative to firearms.HITNRUNXX wrote:
I don't know how many training classes you have sat through on them, but I have been to a ton. The original development as an alternative to lethal weaponry was thrown out after the first year of them going mainstream to most departments. They ARE now considered a statistically safer alternative, for both the suspect and the officer than physical violence. This includes, but is not limited to guns, punching, clubs, asps, tackles, etc.
That wasn't the original intention at all.
The Police could have just sat and waited, instead of using a potentially lethal weapon on an unarmed person.
I know the profits of fast-food outlets and fat people getting their num-nums quickly are important, but hardly life or death.
I know too that Police like to be obeyed instantly, bad luck, they aren't Judge Dredd they're public servants.
No, someone might bump into that and it looks pokey.Spark wrote:
What crime was committed exactly?HITNRUNXX wrote:
Ok everybody that wants to commit a crime, it's cool, after you are done, just sit and wait. Nothing can be done to you. I know you robbed a store, but you aren't endangering anyone now that you made it back to your house, so hey, just ignore the polite knocks on your door asking you to go with them. And if you run out of food or something, just go to the store and get more. The police will be waiting for you, but all they can do is ask politely and if you say no, you can go about your business. Otherwise, they might have to touch you in some way that might be misconstrued as a violation of your rights. And so what if you interfere with other people's rights in this process? Shut down businesses, burn your neighbor's house down while they are at work. Whatever. It's cool. We allow you to break the law as long as you want. We will just wait, and eventually you will turn yourself in. Or not. Whatever.
Its OK, we know you're a violent authoritarian - no need to keep reminding us - and probably a good example of why ex-military shouldn't be allowed to join the Police if i join the police force ... i'll make sure you're the first to get my autographDilbert_X wrote:
SEREMAKER wrote:
HITNRUNXX wrote:
So, again, instead of just passing judgement from your computer chair, feel free to Monday-Morning Quarterback the appropriate action.Dilbert_X wrote:
Its not difficult, tasers are not supposed to be used to make it easy for cops to order people around - they're intended as a last resort before firearms are used.
Freedom as in Hungarian Roma people being dragged out of their houses and shot by fascist, anti-Semitic paramilitary groups?venom6 wrote:
Land of the free! God bless the USA!
Freedom. Liberty. Democracy.
Video at the bottom.One day last September, Danielle Maudsley, clad in handcuffs, bolted out the door of a Florida Highway Patrol substation after she had been arrested in a hit-and-run case.
A dashboard video camera in a patrol cruiser in the parking lot captured Trooper Daniel Cole chasing her. Cole was only a few feet behind her when he pulled out his Taser and fired its electric probes into her back.
Maudsley spun, fell backward and smacked her head on the asphalt parking lot. She lay there, bleeding and crying as Cole stood over her. Then she went unconscious.
Those details were part of a report released Thursday by the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles that cleared Cole of wrongdoing in the incident. An investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement also cleared him.
The report shed new light on the Sept. 19 incident, which left Maudsley, 20, in a vegetative state, said her mother, Cheryl Maudsley.
"Tell me that's not excessive force," Cheryl Maudsley said. "I'm not saying she was an angel, but she didn't deserve that. He couldn't reach out and grab her? He was an arm's length away."
Excessive or not?While she sat in the back of his cruiser, Maudsley removed her right hand from the handcuffs, the report said. When Cole opened the door to take her out, she told him, “I took this off.”
Maudsley was placed back in handcuffs and Cole took her into the substation, according to the report. As he worked on paperwork in a conference room, he sensed that Maudsley was moving, turned, and saw her at the main exit. He asked where she was going and got up from his seat before she ran out the door.
In an interview with investigators, Cole said he saw Maudsley turning in the direction of U.S. 19 after she exited the substation.
“If she makes it there, you know, there’s no winning,” the report quoted him saying. “I can’t let her get out and get run over,” he later said.
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