BF2S Forums EE Chats - September

m3thod wrote:

we've been through this before

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 2#p3786272

you go to a shit uni.  someone has too.

says the guy that went to liverpool (shit), bounced to a decent uni for a business degree (shit), and then thinks his MBA counts for anything in world rankings (it doesn't, the academic world think business mongs are shit).

Last edited by aynrandroolz (2012-09-13 10:05:38)

aynrandroolz wrote:

m3thod wrote:

we've been through this before

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 2#p3786272

you go to a shit uni.  someone has too.

says the guy that went to liverpool (shit), bounced to a decent uni for a business degree (shit), and then thinks his MBA counts for anything in world rankings (it doesn't, the academic world think business mongs are shit).

Even the QS ranking puts my uni 50-some places ahead of liverpool. Wow.

Last edited by Shocking (2012-09-13 10:24:09)

They don't. I just find it funny cause he called my uni 'shit' based on the QS ranking.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Shocking wrote:

They don't. I just find it funny cause he called my uni 'shit' based on the QS ranking.

maybe he thinks Liverpool is shit too and he's being objective.

Isn't Liverpool pretty shit though compared to most other places in the area?

He already did in a post like 3 after the one you quoted. Keep up

Shocking wrote:

They don't. I just find it funny cause he called my uni 'shit' based on the QS ranking.

i have no idea where you go it's not something you've ever provided...being the secret firum member that you are all i know about you're dutch and you gave up on chem engineering....so maybe on that assumption i thought it would be humorous to poke fun at your phantom uni that is IF you're actually at one.

I have 4 degrees, one of them is 'dodgy' in the utlimate badass uni lists scraping in at 120.  really, this is me caring what a bunch of academics or  students think haha.

What does matter is when i present my CV to an potential employer....you get the 'thats some good shit' look.

m3thod wrote:

Shocking wrote:

They don't. I just find it funny cause he called my uni 'shit' based on the QS ranking.

i have no idea where you go it's not something you've ever provided...being the secret firum member that you are all i know about you're dutch and you gave up on chem engineering....so maybe on that assumption i thought it would be humorous to poke fun at your phantom uni that is IF you're actually at one.

I have 4 degrees, one of them is 'dodgy' in the utlimate badass uni lists scraping in at 120.  really, this is me caring what a bunch of academics or  students think haha.

What does matter is when i present my CV to an potential employer....you get the 'thats some good shit' look.

what does it matter? you're using (spurious) academic rankings that are based primarily on research output, citations, academic prestige, and international outlook to boost your petty business career ego. it makes you look pathetic. you're relying on the rankings and esteem of academic research institutions to somehow help your ego when you have nothing to do with academia. you did a degree that serious academia considers 'easy' and not worthy of proper debate/research. you received your degrees because you wanted a high-flying finance/IT career: fair enough. but don't rely on academic rankings that measure research and prestige when none of your university qualifications ever had anything to do with that. you're trying to siphon off a bit of the glory when a) you didn't do any 'hard' academic subjects and b) your link therefore to those institutions' rankings is tenuous at best. "what should you care" what a bunch of academics and students think? evidently a lot, because you're using rankings generated by and aimed solely at academics/students in order to feel better about yourself. tragic.

really a grown adult who is comfortably into his career should not be checking the QS university rankings every year. are you insecure? you come across as a typical business-world mong who is overly concerned with his precious CV. you know that academia looks down upon you, and the institutions see business/management/MBA students as nothing but a reliable money train (most of which are foreign/asian students, simply because they have to pay more, the suckers, as i'm sure you're aware from your world-mix MBA class). so why humiliate yourself by trying to prove your 'superiority' over other uni students who are, by all accounts, doing much harder and more respected subjects than you? none of the academic surveys or research assessments have anything to do with you. if your degrees are there to impress white-collar mongs in offices, that's fine. but don't try and make someone like shocking feel inferior when he's doing something much more difficult and respected than you in the university. if you went to harvard/yale law school or a truly elite business school, maybe then you could gloat. instead you went to mong business departments attached to universities that are highly-ranked for their academic research. it doesn't quite work like that.

also, i hear shocking's complaints about anglocentric world rankings. but tbh the main universities that are losing out in that regard are the german ancients/classics, and the french grand philosophical ecoles, and possibly a few russian technical/scientific institutions. utrecht and amsterdam are already ranked handsomely enough. they're not really of a higher deserving class than their current rank. the criticism is most often levelled w/r/t the rise of chinese and asian academia, who are outputting mind-boggling numbers of scientists and engineers who barely get any ranking recognition. the netherlands is not a much maligned country by the anglocentric 'conspiracy'.

Last edited by aynrandroolz (2012-09-13 11:10:19)

I never criticised the rankings because I felt my uni wasn't high enough up on the list. I'm completely fine with it being where it is placed, though I always felt the rankings were extremely unfair to non-native english speaking countries in general. Particularily France. Disregarding this, I can admit that the top 10 is fairly accurate.

As for what exactly I'm doing - I'm completing an undergrad in history (as in analysing conflict, particularily terrorism / failed states / proxy wars - yes, these subjects are mainly taught and researched at the history department) maintaining a US GPA of 3.8> (aiming for that elusive 4.0). It's (very) likely that I'll be doing my postgrad in terrorism & security at KCL. Honestly, a guy on a webforum 'poking fun' at my academic institution doesn't bother me at all.

Last edited by Shocking (2012-09-13 11:23:18)

Ilocano wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Shocking wrote:

They don't. I just find it funny cause he called my uni 'shit' based on the QS ranking.

i have no idea where you go it's not something you've ever provided...being the secret firum member that you are all i know about you're dutch and you gave up on chem engineering....so maybe on that assumption i thought it would be humorous to poke fun at your phantom uni that is IF you're actually at one.

I have 4 degrees, one of them is 'dodgy' in the utlimate badass uni lists scraping in at 120.  really, this is me caring what a bunch of academics or  students think haha.

What does matter is when i present my CV to an potential employer....you get the 'thats some good shit' look.

See the youtube link I posted earlier above.   Being an MBA grad, aka CxO roadmap, Academics will be giving you BJ's to fund their research/departments.

lol the fuck are you talking about. yet more business dweebs being status insecure. uk research is funded by the government.

Last edited by aynrandroolz (2012-09-13 11:47:28)

UK endowment is suckage, but still: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UK … _endowment

Where US is insane: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co … _endowment

Ilocano wrote:

aynrandroolz wrote:

Ilocano wrote:

See the youtube link I posted earlier above.   Being an MBA grad, aka CxO roadmap, Academics will be giving you BJ's to fund their research/departments.

lol the fuck are you talking about. yet more business dweebs being status insecure. uk research is funded by the government.

BP?

all research in the humanities, sciences and social sciences in the universities are done through government funding bodies. if you want to do academic research in the UK at any of our top institutions, you have to apply for funding through a centralised government body. it has nothing to do with business. post-doctoral research on a company wage is quite another thing - that's private sector work. the academic world is public sector and at no point involves academics fellating businessmen (sorry to burst your little ego-tripping bubble, and possible sexual fantasies). the closest that academia and business gets is when some rich businessman dies and bequeaths a bunch of his money to his alma mater, because he wants to try and secure his name for perpetuity by putting his name next to a departmental prize or bursary. i guess that's cause business mongs realise that being the CEO of a company selling twinkie bars or elastic bands to industry isn't the most spiritually fulfilling thing, nor the best way to really cement yourself in the history books.

you do chat some utter shit sometimes.

Ilocano wrote:

UK endowment is suckage, but still: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UK … _endowment

yep, and that's pretty much the definitive list of our top research universities. it's public money, mainly. and very little from business/private sources.

yet again, to the post below, you are missing the point. the bp research centre has nothing to do with awarding doctorates. it is not a university research centre - it's for private industry research, to employ postdocs in the private sector. you are saying that 'academics will be fellating businessmen'. what? academics have their own funding systems and their own career tracks. if you're a scientist working in industrial research, then you are not an academic. they are different worlds. furthermore how many businessmen and MBA's and CEO's work in oil? the notion that academics queue up to rich business for money is patently bullshit.

Last edited by aynrandroolz (2012-09-13 12:26:05)

big bang theory is a terrible show and stupid arguments like this should be kept inside the cesspool of dst

Last edited by west-phoenix-az (2012-09-13 13:01:08)