How would an occupation of North Korea go?

2013-04-07 13:29:07

#1

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5971

Would it be harder to hold and control than Iraq and Afghanistan? This is assuming the Chinese don't cross the border into the peninsula and the North Koreans don't shell Seoul into dust.

I am not sure. Keep in mind I was never in the military so I don't have a clue as to what I am talking about but here is some things I have read in books and seen on T.V.:

In Iraq the border was too large to effectively patrol. Islamic militants were coming in from all over to fight us. And Iran was arming locals to fight us. North Korea doesn't have any of that going against it. Only problem would be the advanced and large military fighting an endless guerrilla war against us using Chinese weapons. Some positives would be the fact that the Koreans have a sense of national identity and reuniting the peninsula under a government ran by Koreans would make them less likely to fight us endlessly. Koreans are also not Muslim and believe in hard work and respecting authority.

This is just stuff I saw on T.V. though. So what do you think?

2013-04-07 13:35:51

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eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5645|foggy bottom

sorry but questions like this are the reason i hate this forum

Tu Stultus Es

2013-04-07 13:37:39

#3

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5971

At least I'm not pretending to be knowledgeable about this. Give me that.

2013-04-07 13:49:15

#4

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5645|foggy bottom

true that

Tu Stultus Es

2013-04-07 14:04:35

#5

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6385|...

lol no. Just no.

Look, IF it would ever come to war (which I very much doubt - in the foreseeable future at least), any dealings with NK post-conflict should be done through China and S-Korea. Don't even touch that mess.

China is not an enemy here

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inane little opines

2013-04-07 15:12:01

#6

Uzique The Lesser: Banned; +382|4640

korea has been occupied and fucked-with by outside influences for, like, a thousand years. it is a major constitutive part of their national identity and ideology. i think even the south koreans would hate an american occupation of north korea. the south koreans see them more as an estranged family member, rather than an enemy they would wish to have an occupation inflicted on them. if there's one thing koreans are proud of thesedays, it's their political autonomy (or autarky, if you will).

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2013-04-07 15:16:50

#7

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7102

south koreans think japan is more of a military threat than north korea.

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2013-04-07 15:20:50

#8

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5564|Sydney

NK aren't really a threat to anyone IMO. Last time they launched a missile Japan basically said "we saw it, we could've shot it down but we decided it wasn't worth the bother".

I don't know what the American obsession is with occupying countries that don't conform with their views of "freedom" but it is disturbing. That's not directed at you Macbeth, it's more a general statement.

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2013-04-07 15:28:37

#9

Uzique The Lesser: Banned; +382|4640

has a single large-scale US occupation gone well?

2013-04-07 15:33:16

#10

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7102

Uzique The Lesser wrote:
has a single large-scale US occupation gone well?

japan and germany went all right.

2013-04-07 15:36:50

#11

Uzique The Lesser: Banned; +382|4640

bit of a different time and situation though...

2013-04-07 15:37:56

#12

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|6085

i want to read gs' view so i can just rephrase everything he said and pass it off as my own opinion.

2013-04-07 15:50:03

#13

Spearhead: Gulf coast redneck hippy; +731|7076|Tampa Bay Florida

Realistically, from what I've read, any unification process would result in the end of the US occupation/military bases. A. Because China wouldn't want us right on their border, and B. Koreans apparently don't like us all that much, even though we like totally saved them from communism

2013-04-07 15:54:03

#14

Uzique The Lesser: Banned; +382|4640

Spearhead wrote:
Realistically, from what I've read, any unification process would result in the end of the US occupation/military bases. A. Because China wouldn't want us right on their border, and B. Koreans apparently don't like us all that much, even though we like totally saved them from communism

america, fuck yeah, saving the world from communists

2013-04-07 16:01:51

#15

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7102

Uzique The Lesser wrote:
Spearhead wrote:
Realistically, from what I've read, any unification process would result in the end of the US occupation/military bases. A. Because China wouldn't want us right on their border, and B. Koreans apparently don't like us all that much, even though we like totally saved them from communism
america, fuck yeah, saving the world from communists

imagine the whole korean peninsula being under the kims... jesus.

2013-04-07 16:31:51

#16

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5564|Sydney

Yes, NK is ready for democracy whether they want it or not.

2013-04-08 06:56:07

#17

Uzique The Lesser: Banned; +382|4640

so i was on youtube last night and found this (only 100 views, somehow), but clearly words of reason:

this guy strikes me as the george galloway of the pacific... minus all the jew-bashing (fyi galloway is a 'controversial' straight-talking british politician who always speaks out in the media in support of palestine, iran, cuba etc. basically states that vacant-faced news-reporters who call them "pariahs" do so with little-to-no understanding of politics. he's an infamous debater. he's also probably a little bit extremist).

so anyway, i watched that and all seemed very commonsensical to me. but then in the related videos you have CNN News posting videos like this:

110,000 views, compared to the last video's 100.

lol american media is a fucking joke. are they there to give accurate news, or are they there to whip every single war-game into some action movie disaster scenario? where does information end in america, and hollywood begin?

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2013-04-08 07:01:28

#18

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7102

they forgot the mention of a north korean invasion of america

2013-04-08 07:01:34

#19

Uzique The Lesser: Banned; +382|4640

hahahaha that CNN news link. if i lived in a country where that was the major news-outlet i would KILL MYSELF.

2013-04-08 07:03:47

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Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7102

Uzique The Lesser wrote:
hahahaha that CNN news link. if i lived in a country where that was the major news-outlet i would KILL MYSELF.

and cnn is supposedly better than fox news.

2013-04-08 07:20:48

#21

Uzique The Lesser: Banned; +382|4640

hyping everything up to make out north korea to be these crazy blood-thirsty communists. so then you get people like spearhead coming in here and parroting the us mainstream news media's view... korea are crazy! they must be stopped! the damn south koreans don't even fully appreciate us saving their ass! goddamnit! america!

2013-04-08 07:35:21

#22

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6908|...

I hate listening to network news people talk about war like it's football.

2013-04-08 07:41:04

#23

Uzique The Lesser: Banned; +382|4640

jsnipy wrote:
I hate listening to network news people talk about war like it's football.

it's that casual recourse to violence and the constant reliance on the military that makes so many average americans completely complicit and a-ok with you storming off into various corners of the globe. military action should be the last possible outcome of any diplomatic relation: the total failure and breakdown of the political process. instead, as soon as tensions rise in a region on the other side of the globe, american news channels can't wait to run fancy 3d animations of how the artillery will rain down on the millions of heads in seoul. it's fucking perverse. like your news takes its inspiration from call of duty.

2013-04-08 15:19:43

#24

globefish23: sophisticated slacker; +334|6710|Graz, Austria

Uzique The Lesser wrote:
instead, as soon as tensions rise in a region on the other side of the globe, american news channels can't wait to run fancy 3d animations of how the artillery will rain down on the millions of heads in seoul. it's fucking perverse. like your news takes its inspiration from call of duty.

But it'll provide for several Oscar-screaming, patriotic movie plots.

2013-04-10 18:49:14

#25

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5971

visualization of North Korea's entire known military
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/10 … onal-arms/
Much bigger than most Americans believe.

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