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Teachers told they must not use red ink for marking homework in case it upsets pupils
Teachers at a secondary school in London have been told they must not use red ink when marking homework in case it upsets pupils.
The move was condemned as "political correctness gone wild" and ministers were forced to deny the Government issues guidelines on the colour of teachers' pens.

Tory MP Bob Blackman took his concerns to parliament after a teacher in his Harrow East constituency informed him the secondary school had banned staff from using red ink.

He told MailOnline: "A teacher contacted me and said I cannot believe I have been instructed by my head to mark children’s homework in particular colours and not to use certain colours.

"It is all about not wanting to discourage youngsters if their work is marked wrong.

"It sounds to me like some petty edict which is nonsense. It is absolutely political correctness gone wild.

He added: "My take on all this is to say children need to understand the difference between what’s right and what’s wrong."

Mr Blackman tabled a parliamentary question, asking whether the Government makes rules which "prohibit or discourage the use of red ink for the purposes of marking or commenting on students’ schoolwork".

Education minister Elizabeth Truss was forced to distance the Government from the policy.

She said: "No, the Department does not issue guidelines which prohibit or discourage the use of red ink for marking students schoolwork."

It is thought the policy was introduced by the head teacher instead.

Mr Blackman declined to name the school responsible but said he would be taking up the issue with the head teacher.

The move comes just months after Michael Gove set out plans for a new back-to-basics National Curriculum, which places emphasis on traditional areas of teaching such as spelling, grammar and alegbra.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/se … upils.html
Found out about this because of the scholars and freethinkers of reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/com … troversial

Their comments echoed the sentiment that this is political correctness gone wrong. I am certain many of you feel the same way. I disagree and am willing to discuss this with members of this forum.

Child and education psychologist argue that using red ink discourages students since people automatically associate red with bad in our western world. I agree. Red is threatening and even nice comments and constructive criticism comes off much worse when done in red.
Uzique The Lesser
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fun trivia: most 'traditional' unis in the UK will use a nice racing-green pen to write disparaging remarks on your feeble-minded essay attempts. putdowns... with class.
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pirana6
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Macbeth wrote:

in case it upsets pupils
QQ UK, QQ.
Uzique The Lesser
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pirana6 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

in case it upsets pupils
QQ UK, QQ.
yeah, one single school's decision to enforce some crazy marker-pen rule really reflects on the whole UK. do you have any idea how many schools there are in the UK? the news-article even says that the government minister who was complained to had to point out the stupid policy had nothing to do with the government or UK state. you fucking dong.

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Macbeth
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They teach you not to use red ink during education training. It is a serious policy among education educators (???).
DrunkFace
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Macbeth wrote:

people automatically associate red with bad in our western world. I agree. Red is threatening and even nice comments and constructive criticism comes off much worse when done in red.
orly?
Macbeth
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DrunkFace wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

people automatically associate red with bad in our western world. I agree. Red is threatening and even nice comments and constructive criticism comes off much worse when done in red.
orly?
Yes?
Pochsy
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I find the worst to be black ink. It just cuts into your soul. Like they didn't even have a special marking pen. Instead, your paper was so shitty they just used whatever they had on hand, because it didn't come close to warranting a purposed pen. I imagaine my professors writing a shopping list, see the test, and thinking, 'ah yes, for a giggle I'll instead write disparaging remarks on this paper'.

You'll never know the pain of a black bic pen.
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DesertFox-
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When I was grading and correcting papers as a TA, I can imagine it would be rather disheartening with how marked up some of those papers were. That's their own fault for not reading when we gave them all the material though.
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I was particularly offended by blue ink. it seemed almost as if they weren't taking my work seriously and my grades suffered drastically as a result
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Pochsy
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DesertFox- wrote:

When I was grading and correcting papers as a TA, I can imagine it would be rather disheartening with how marked up some of those papers were. That's their own fault for not reading when we gave them all the material though.
I've found there to be professors who will write more comments if they liked your paper, actually. If it was completely idiotic they have nothing to say: the points are too stupid to heed remark. If you write a well argued paper, the professor often tried to show how it could have been better, or to offer counter-claims, which then make the margins look more violated than virgin.

The extra comments in the margin weren't always a bad thing at all, and actually usually not so in my case.
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the less the comment, the less interested in the paper. the more the merrier.
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Uzique The Lesser
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the leading comment in the first-paragraph margin of my MA thesis, as i was setting up my argument, was "go for it". i knew it was going to be a good read from then on. this street-casual tone encouragement coming from a very posh and very tweedy cambridge type.
DrunkFace
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Macbeth wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

people automatically associate red with bad in our western world. I agree. Red is threatening and even nice comments and constructive criticism comes off much worse when done in red.
orly?
Yes?
I think your premise is insane, to each to their own.

Manchester United must be bad cause they wear red.
Coke and Target are obviously evil.
Roses will will attack if not properly secured.
Strawberries and raspberries just taste awful.
And the Red cross goes around killing people.
Uzique The Lesser
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the colours have always had symbolic importance attached to them. it just depends on your culture and historical perspective.

red is danger in the west, but good fortune in china. these are trite clichés that everyone is aware of.
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Macbeth wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

people automatically associate red with bad in our western world. I agree. Red is threatening and even nice comments and constructive criticism comes off much worse when done in red.
orly?
Yes?
.

Stop lights, stop signs, marketing. Red is an attention grabber.
DrunkFace
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Red doesn't mean danger, it's just used to warn of danger because it is an eye catching colour, it stands out and brings attention to itself without being hard to read such as yellows and florescent colours.
Uzique The Lesser
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DrunkFace wrote:

Red doesn't mean danger, it's just used to warn of danger because it is an eye catching colour, it stands out and brings attention to itself without being hard to read such as yellows and florescent colours.
i think you are being a little obtuse. 'red' doesn't 'mean' anything. the word 'red' doesn't mean anything either. the sound we make when we say 'red' is meaningless, glossolalic. that's why i said "colours have symbolic values attached to them". they are symbolically meant to signify something. there is nothing 'essential' about the colour red just as there is nothing essential about a curve. we bestow properties upon it. language and meaning are shared-social and completely constructed (and the relation between the signifier and the signified is wholly arbitrary). this is not difficult.

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