13rin
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Not that it is admissible in court, but Zimm passed a polygraph test.

Telling how even though he took it soon after the shooting, only now are limited media outlets are reporting it.
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13rin wrote:

Not that it is admissible in court, but Zimm passed a polygraph test.

Telling how even though he took it soon after the shooting, only now are limited media outlets are reporting it.
or maybe because

from the article wrote:

A confidential report released Tuesday from Florida prosecutors shows that George Zimmerman passed a lie detector test the night he shot Trayvon Martin.
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lol
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Polygraphs, lol. Totally unreliable pseudoscience which has sadly gained acceptance among dumbfucks because it makes for good television.
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it does make for good tv
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13rin
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

13rin wrote:

Not that it is admissible in court, but Zimm passed a polygraph test.

Telling how even though he took it soon after the shooting, only now are limited media outlets are reporting it.
or maybe because

from the article wrote:

A confidential report released Tuesday from Florida prosecutors shows that George Zimmerman passed a lie detector test the night he shot Trayvon Martin.
Fox ftw, reading comprehension FTL jenn.

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13rin wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

13rin wrote:

Not that it is admissible in court, but Zimm passed a polygraph test.

Telling how even though he took it soon after the shooting, only now are limited media outlets are reporting it.
or maybe because

from the article wrote:

A confidential report released Tuesday from Florida prosecutors shows that George Zimmerman passed a lie detector test the night he shot Trayvon Martin.
Fox ftw, reading comprehension FTL jenn.
Even more highlights for your comprehension.

and lol fauxnews
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Jaekus wrote:

lol
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13rin wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

13rin wrote:

Not that it is admissible in court, but Zimm passed a polygraph test.

Telling how even though he took it soon after the shooting, only now are limited media outlets are reporting it.
or maybe because

from the article wrote:

A confidential report released Tuesday from Florida prosecutors shows that George Zimmerman passed a lie detector test the night he shot Trayvon Martin.
Fox ftw, reading comprehension FTL jenn.
you do know what 'released tuesday' means right

hint: it means it wasn't available x months ago
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Zimmerman wrote:

"I do wish that there was something, anything I could have done that wouldn't have put me in the position where I had to take his life,"
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just judging from the body count alone, i'd have to go with George Zimmerman.
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Zimmerman has declined the right to a pre-trial hearing in which he could have won immunity if it was shown he did stand his ground as described by the law.

Instead he is going for a self defense, defense.

It would have looked bad for him to lose the pre trial hearing, only to end up before a jury with the previous ruling influencing the panel.

So it doesn't look good for him if the lawyers didn't think he could win based on stand your ground. Hope he enjoys prison, he'll be there awhile.
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I would just like to say, nine months after the report, that Zimmerman passing a polygraph isn't really that reassuring to me.
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I would just like to say, nine months after the report, that Zimmerman passing a polygraph isn't really that reassuring to me.
polygraphs don't mean shit.
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They don't mean shit but they are shit. The mysteries of life.
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

They don't mean shit but they are shit. The mysteries of life.
aren't they inadmissible in court?
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Depends on the state.
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Items taken from Trayvon Martin's cell phone -- including a text-message discussion of drug use and pictures of a gun and marijuana plants -- are among new details released Thursday by attorneys for the neighborhood watch volunteer accused of killing him without provocation 14 months ago.

The evidence, George Zimmerman's attorneys say, paints a different picture of the 17-year-old than the one portrayed by his family and supporters. Lead defense attorney Mark O'Mara says he will try to use the evidence if prosecutors attempt to attack Zimmerman's character during his trial on second-degree murder charges, set to begin next month.

Also Thursday, O'Mara filed motions in court. One asks for sanctions against the state for withholding evidence and for saying it didn't have more evidence when asked. The second requests that his client's trial be delayed.

Much of the new evidence disclosed Thursday in filings by Zimmerman's attorneys comes from Martin's cell phone, including photos showing a semiautomatic pistol and ammunition and small marijuana plants growing in pots.

Photos: Trayvon Martin evidence

In other pictures, Martin is pictured making obscene gestures in an apparent self-portrait, as well pictures showing him with friends and in other settings.

The text messages include a conversation from November 2011 in which he appears to say his mother has kicked him out of the house after "da police caught me outta skool."

"So you just turning into a lil hoodlum," the person with whom he is texting says.

"Naw, I'm a gangsta," the text message read.

In other messages, text message exchanges appear to be discussing guns.

"U wanna share a .380 w/ (blacked out)," one text message sent from Martin's phone reads.

The text messaging logs are also peppered with references to marijuana use.

"I got weed nd I get money Friday," a message sent from his phone reads.

"I hid m weed," another text sent from Martin's phone reads. "its wrapped."

The attorney for Martin's family, Benjamin Crump, says the evidence is "irrelevant" and predicted it would never be used at Zimmerman's trial.
With the exception of the gun part I don't see anything any other teen doesn't do in this country. Of course people are going to use this as proof the kid deserved it. It doesn't change anything for me. Even if the kid was bashing Zimmerman's head open on the ground, like I believe he was, he still lost his right to claim self defense once he got out of his car and followed him.
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Drug use is a crime, people lose some credibility if they have a track record of crime, however minor.
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actually attitudes towards marijuana use are changing - especially in the states - and decriminalization is spreading rapidly. "drug use is a crime" is a bit of an unwieldy statement. for many many years now people in the legal and political process have spoken about how criminalizing drug addicts is just about one of the worst things society can do - in both pure financial terms as well as terms of human rights. not that this kid was a drug addict. a teenager with a few pictures of weed plants on his phone (i.e. "getting stoned is awesome" typical teenager stuff) DOES NOT shake someone's credibility in a HOMICIDE case. you are nuts. a cellphone picture of some marijuana acts against a murder victim. right.



this is just media story-digging at its worst and most pernicious. a picture of a weed plant doesn't even provide evidence that he was a "user" himself (again, though, not that being a weed-user is some morally black and evil category). teenagers take photos of shit to show-off and impress their friends all the time. taking a photo of something incriminates you now? what sort of totalitarian thought-crime state do you live in, dilbert? and if you think smoking weed makes someone, somehow, morally far 'worse' or more transgressive than someone who enjoys drinking alcohol... you are deluded. maybe if he was a crack dealer, you could start talking about a genuine 'aggravating' factor. maybe just, the slimmest chance. this photo means nothing.

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I can't think of any instance in the history of US trials where a murderer got off because his victim had a photo of marijuana on him.
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I can't think of any instance in the history of US trials where a murderer got off because his victim had a photo of marijuana on him.
Well duh. This isn't a simple murder case though.

However when it comes to a question of credibility, Zimmermans word against Martin's friends who will all say "oh no, he was a straight A student who never put a foot wrong and wouldn't hurt a fly" being in possession of pictures of drugs and guns, and text messages about drugs and guns which reveal a tendency to at least be OK with criminality, then Zimmerman gains a little credibility.

Alcohol is legal, other drugs aren't and use and possession are crimes, bad luck.

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lots of straight A students also use drugs

in fact at top institutions, illicit drug use specifically for performance enhancing reasons is becoming a norm (i am not one of them, no, too busy wondering about heroin).

anyway, it's not a character damning or redeeming thing, either way. it's not like everyone who uses drugs is a down and out scumbag, an utterly destitute individual. many people in the legal process that are fucking trying people for homicide have taken/dabbled with drugs.

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The question is, how this would related to Zimmerman killing him.
(Other than trying to create a weird picture for the jury, where Zimmerman defended himself against a "gangsta".

Did he see Martin sporting a gun?
(Heck, in the US you could be having a carrying permit.)

Did he see him doing illegal drug stuff?

No, this neighborhood watch, wanna-be sheriff just walked up to him because he saw a black dude with a hooded sweater.
Then went off and came back with a gun.

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