Well I ride the train with bums who make half a thousand per year who are barely able to hold their piss and have no relationship with their sanity. Societal status doesn't impress me at all.
- SuperJail Warden
- Gone Forever
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You sure have changed after you got into the yacht club.Jay wrote:
No I don't. I take the train every morning with stock brokers who make half a mil plus a year who are barely able to tie their shoes and have no relationship with their family. Money doesn't impress me at all.SuperJail Warden wrote:
But you judge every other thing by how much money it earnsJay wrote:
I don't judge a culture by how many dollars are earned exploiting it.
if I joined a yacht club it would be because I actually love sailing, not to brag. I've been sailing on either my dad's boat or in summer camp since I was 2 years old. I've always wanted to race them.SuperJail Warden wrote:
You sure have changed after you got into the yacht club.Jay wrote:
No I don't. I take the train every morning with stock brokers who make half a mil plus a year who are barely able to tie their shoes and have no relationship with their family. Money doesn't impress me at all.SuperJail Warden wrote:
But you judge every other thing by how much money it earns
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
well you were making out like his elite humanities education disadvantaged him because he made the wrong degree choice. now it turns out he tried to become a singer-songwriter and 'make it'. that's a pretty privileged thing to try to do – hardly punishment for taking a crap degree! and as it turns out, he's now skipped on to harvard law. d'oh. i know you weren't trying to contradict my general argument but these anecdotes cloud the issue when jay/dilbert are continually trying to make out that humanities are awful subjects for fast-food losers.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I have no fucking clue, I just know he got a double major in liberal arts fields and one was english lit. He tried being like a song writer (and a bar back / dog walker on the side) or something until his parents got fed up paying his rent and pushed him to do somethign.
Idk but one did go to florida state on exchange. Their grades didn't matter either since it was pass/fail when doing credit transfers. Still ended up with a 4.0 and they're probably midrange students at my uni.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
shut up dude. I went to a state school (a highly rated one at that) and got a great education. Your friends probably just said that when in reality they worked their asses off like. Either that or they went to some shitty state school.Cybargs wrote:
now this brings back the old bf2s
tbh american uni's, especially 'state' ones aren't very academically rigorous. Got lots of mates who went abroad on exchange an pretty much got As for everything for not doing nothing.
I'm glad you enjoyed what you studied Jay, people find certain things more interesting than others but it is true in the context that traditionally the humanities/classics/arts have been chosen by the 'elite' because they don't have to 'dirty their hands' so to speak. As I said, Ivy level grads no matter what they study will end up with a nice paying job regardless. Welcome to the real world.
edit: congrats to your family member that went on to harvard law though!
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no, i actually said he bummed around brooklyn. Not that he couldn't find a job because of his degree. I made no inference to the degree hindering him in any way. IT was more to provide an anecdotal counter to cybargs "state schools are shit, Ivy league graduates earn a bunch of money" nonsense. If you look, I quoted HIM, not you. I went to a state school and make a pretty good living. He went to an Ivy League school and did nothing for a while. It's more about what you do with your degree than what the name is stamped on it.uziq wrote:
well you were making out like his elite humanities education disadvantaged him because he made the wrong degree choice. now it turns out he tried to become a singer-songwriter and 'make it'. that's a pretty privileged thing to try to do – hardly punishment for taking a crap degree! and as it turns out, he's now skipped on to harvard law. d'oh. i know you weren't trying to contradict my general argument but these anecdotes cloud the issue when jay/dilbert are continually trying to make out that humanities are awful subjects for fast-food losers.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I have no fucking clue, I just know he got a double major in liberal arts fields and one was english lit. He tried being like a song writer (and a bar back / dog walker on the side) or something until his parents got fed up paying his rent and pushed him to do somethign.
florida state is a shit school. In California alone, UCI, UCLA, UC Berkely are ALL state schools that are highly ranked in different disciplines. Point being it's stupid to offer up blanket statements.Cybargs wrote:
Idk but one did go to florida state on exchange. Their grades didn't matter either since it was pass/fail when doing credit transfers. Still ended up with a 4.0 and they're probably midrange students at my uni.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
shut up dude. I went to a state school (a highly rated one at that) and got a great education. Your friends probably just said that when in reality they worked their asses off like. Either that or they went to some shitty state school.Cybargs wrote:
now this brings back the old bf2s
tbh american uni's, especially 'state' ones aren't very academically rigorous. Got lots of mates who went abroad on exchange an pretty much got As for everything for not doing nothing.
I'm glad you enjoyed what you studied Jay, people find certain things more interesting than others but it is true in the context that traditionally the humanities/classics/arts have been chosen by the 'elite' because they don't have to 'dirty their hands' so to speak. As I said, Ivy level grads no matter what they study will end up with a nice paying job regardless. Welcome to the real world.
edit: congrats to your family member that went on to harvard law though!
Yeah but people don't exactly call UC 'state schools'. I think it's generally accepted that UCs are top tiered publicly funded institutions like U Mich. I'm talking about the ones with 'states' in the name like cal state uni etc.
I'm sure if he wanted to go out and get a regular job it wouldn't be too hard either. He just wanted to live a privileged life for a while.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
no, i actually said he bummed around brooklyn. Not that he couldn't find a job because of his degree. I made no inference to the degree hindering him in any way. IT was more to provide an anecdotal counter to cybargs "state schools are shit, Ivy league graduates earn a bunch of money" nonsense. If you look, I quoted HIM, not you. I went to a state school and make a pretty good living. He went to an Ivy League school and did nothing for a while. It's more about what you do with your degree than what the name is stamped on it.uziq wrote:
well you were making out like his elite humanities education disadvantaged him because he made the wrong degree choice. now it turns out he tried to become a singer-songwriter and 'make it'. that's a pretty privileged thing to try to do – hardly punishment for taking a crap degree! and as it turns out, he's now skipped on to harvard law. d'oh. i know you weren't trying to contradict my general argument but these anecdotes cloud the issue when jay/dilbert are continually trying to make out that humanities are awful subjects for fast-food losers.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I have no fucking clue, I just know he got a double major in liberal arts fields and one was english lit. He tried being like a song writer (and a bar back / dog walker on the side) or something until his parents got fed up paying his rent and pushed him to do somethign.
You're an idiot.Cybargs wrote:
Yeah but people don't exactly call UC 'state schools'. I think it's generally accepted that UCs are top tiered publicly funded institutions like U Mich. I'm talking about the ones with 'states' in the name like cal state uni etc.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Again, you're an idiot.Cybargs wrote:
I'm sure if he wanted to go out and get a regular job it wouldn't be too hard either. He just wanted to live a privileged life for a while.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
no, i actually said he bummed around brooklyn. Not that he couldn't find a job because of his degree. I made no inference to the degree hindering him in any way. IT was more to provide an anecdotal counter to cybargs "state schools are shit, Ivy league graduates earn a bunch of money" nonsense. If you look, I quoted HIM, not you. I went to a state school and make a pretty good living. He went to an Ivy League school and did nothing for a while. It's more about what you do with your degree than what the name is stamped on it.uziq wrote:
well you were making out like his elite humanities education disadvantaged him because he made the wrong degree choice. now it turns out he tried to become a singer-songwriter and 'make it'. that's a pretty privileged thing to try to do – hardly punishment for taking a crap degree! and as it turns out, he's now skipped on to harvard law. d'oh. i know you weren't trying to contradict my general argument but these anecdotes cloud the issue when jay/dilbert are continually trying to make out that humanities are awful subjects for fast-food losers.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
wtf?Cybargs wrote:
Yeah but people don't exactly call UC 'state schools'. I think it's generally accepted that UCs are top tiered publicly funded institutions like U Mich. I'm talking about the ones with 'states' in the name like cal state uni etc.
Seriously retardedpirana6 wrote:
wtf?Cybargs wrote:
Yeah but people don't exactly call UC 'state schools'. I think it's generally accepted that UCs are top tiered publicly funded institutions like U Mich. I'm talking about the ones with 'states' in the name like cal state uni etc.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Kind of like the random asian girls who work at the uber-white Saks fifth Avenue headquarters in my building, carrying around empty shopping bags from high end retailers thinking people will be impressed, he doesn't quite understand white culture.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
I'm just confused about where the info comes from that UC schools are generally good schools, while a "state" named school is generally bad.
- SuperJail Warden
- Gone Forever
- +643|3979
I read in the economist that new colleges in China are designing their buildings with gothic architecture in order for it to look like old British and American colleges. Because they see how our old schools look and think they are going to a really great quality college if the State University of Linxia had a few buildings with fine wood paneling.Jay wrote:
Kind of like the random asian girls who work at the uber-white Saks fifth Avenue headquarters in my building, carrying around empty shopping bags from high end retailers thinking people will be impressed, he doesn't quite understand white culture.
asian perception.pirana6 wrote:
I'm just confused about where the info comes from that UC schools are generally good schools, while a "state" named school is generally bad.
most american colleges that took gothic architecture were copying the british ancients. there's an original american style that is more palladian or neo-classical in inspiration. the gothic princeton look is straight oxford-cambridge.SuperJail Warden wrote:
I read in the economist that new colleges in China are designing their buildings with gothic architecture in order for it to look like old British and American colleges. Because they see how our old schools look and think they are going to a really great quality college if the State University of Linxia had a few buildings with fine wood paneling.Jay wrote:
Kind of like the random asian girls who work at the uber-white Saks fifth Avenue headquarters in my building, carrying around empty shopping bags from high end retailers thinking people will be impressed, he doesn't quite understand white culture.
there's nothing wrong or embarrassing about asia apeing the architecture of western academia, anyway. australia did that shit first. look at sydney if you want to see one of the most complete oxford clones.
i actually prefer that sort of architecture to a more commercialized, office type setting a lot of colleges here have been doing lately. Nothing wrong with making an institution look like, well, an institution.
One of the dental schools I looked at had the most hideous Brutalist design ever. It rained the morning before I got there and it looked like the Who's Next cover with them peeing on the concrete.
I really wish we could tear down every building erected in that era. Some asshole is going to demand they be landmarked though and we'll be stuck with them forever.DesertFox- wrote:
One of the dental schools I looked at had the most hideous Brutalist design ever. It rained the morning before I got there and it looked like the Who's Next cover with them peeing on the concrete.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Yeah they're called 'sandstone' universities. U syd uq are straight copy cats of Oxford. U syd even more so complete with Anglican and Catholic collegesuziq wrote:
most american colleges that took gothic architecture were copying the british ancients. there's an original american style that is more palladian or neo-classical in inspiration. the gothic princeton look is straight oxford-cambridge.SuperJail Warden wrote:
I read in the economist that new colleges in China are designing their buildings with gothic architecture in order for it to look like old British and American colleges. Because they see how our old schools look and think they are going to a really great quality college if the State University of Linxia had a few buildings with fine wood paneling.Jay wrote:
Kind of like the random asian girls who work at the uber-white Saks fifth Avenue headquarters in my building, carrying around empty shopping bags from high end retailers thinking people will be impressed, he doesn't quite understand white culture.
there's nothing wrong or embarrassing about asia apeing the architecture of western academia, anyway. australia did that shit first. look at sydney if you want to see one of the most complete oxford clones.
i really like brutalism and think it's a great vision of the future. early soviet before stalin, especially. great stuff.Jay wrote:
I really wish we could tear down every building erected in that era. Some asshole is going to demand they be landmarked though and we'll be stuck with them forever.DesertFox- wrote:
One of the dental schools I looked at had the most hideous Brutalist design ever. It rained the morning before I got there and it looked like the Who's Next cover with them peeing on the concrete.
not a fan of residential brutalism, however, or large housing projects. however stuff like habitat 67 are fucking great.
Yuckuziq wrote:
i really like brutalism and think it's a great vision of the future. early soviet before stalin, especially. great stuff.Jay wrote:
I really wish we could tear down every building erected in that era. Some asshole is going to demand they be landmarked though and we'll be stuck with them forever.DesertFox- wrote:
One of the dental schools I looked at had the most hideous Brutalist design ever. It rained the morning before I got there and it looked like the Who's Next cover with them peeing on the concrete.
not a fan of residential brutalism, however, or large housing projects. however stuff like habitat 67 are fucking great.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
i live in a georgian townhouse in a town that is one of the best examples of that idiom in the world, so don't worry. brutalism is awesome as 'art' architecture though. lots of great stuff in ex-soviet bloc countries that was a bold vision of the future. way beyond the rectilinear stuff in the west.
