Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5626|London, England
I'm making hot sauce and my hood exhaust wasn't strong enough to keep the house from smelling like a can of tear gas went off
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Steve-0
Karma limited. Contact Admin to Be Promoted.
+215|4228|SL,UT

way to blame the hood, what you don't own a dog?
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6985|Riva, MD
Some asshole in Los Angeles, a place I haven't been to since February 2005, managed to somehow get a hold of my Amex card information.  This is a card I literally only use at three or four places ever as my gas/groceries card: To buy groceries at one particular Safeway and gas at two stations near my house and sometimes one near work, and somebody across the country was apparently able to forge a swipeable physical copy of this card to use at a gas station.

The US needs to hurry up and abandon the magnetic stripe for EMV, it's way too easy to skim and then forge a stripe-card.  Unfortunately gas pumps aren't required to have EMV readers installed until October 2017 though because it's prohibitively expensive to retrofit these systems to existing pumps and then get them recertified by the state, so the card thieves will continue to hang skimmers over the card slot on gas pumps while they still can

Last edited by _j5689_ (2016-09-16 08:01:07)

Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5626|London, England

_j5689_ wrote:

Some asshole in Los Angeles, a place I haven't been to since February 2005, managed to somehow get a hold of my Amex card information.  This is a card I literally only use at three or four places ever as my gas/groceries card: To buy groceries at one particular Safeway and gas at two stations near my house and sometimes one near work, and somebody across the country was apparently able to forge a swipeable physical copy of this card to use at a gas station.

The US needs to hurry up and abandon the magnetic stripe for EMV, it's way too easy to skim and then forge a stripe-card.  Unfortunately gas pumps aren't required to have EMV readers installed until October 2017 though because it's prohibitively expensive to retrofit these systems to existing pumps and then get them recertified by the state, so the card thieves will continue to hang skimmers over the card slot on gas pumps while they still can
I guarantee you weren't skimmed in LA, someone just bought your info there and created a card.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,980|6900|949

my debit card gets spoofed at least once a year.  Pain in the ass to get a new one (especially when you have auto bill pay linked) but other than that, it's an unfortunate reality of living in an advanced world.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5626|London, England
I wish they put more effort into catching the spoofers. I'd rather see the drug war turned on them than the petty ass meth heads
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,980|6900|949

it's just too big of an undertaking.  The type of spoofing jnumbers is talking about is most likely related to a data breach, not a generic 'let's put a cc reader on a atm/gas station terminal'.  There are plenty of encryption protocols (including variations of the bitcoin blockchain) that could be used to make cc encryption more robust, but it involves a massive infrastructure overhaul.  I'm sure cc companies have done the math and figured out at this point it's cheaper to eat the losses than build new encryption systems from scratch.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5626|London, England
You really think they're eating a single penny of that? That all gets passed on to us.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6985|Riva, MD
You never know how they're getting a hold of the data really.  I looked into these skimmer devices some more and apparently some of them even have cellular modems built into them so it's a complete set it and forget it type of operation now.

I also realized since I work in an office park which is located right next to BWI, it might be convenient and profitable for a hacker to deploy some skimmers on some nearby gas pumps right before he catches a flight back to wherever he came from.  I probably won't be using any gas pumps near work now if I can help it.

I'm almost positive it was a skimmer in this case because for one thing I don't recall ever entering my Amex card number for any online purchases, and if I did it was well over a year ago.  And also when I was filing an "I didn't buy this" claim with Amex for the gas charges in California, the website specifically asked me if I was absolutely sure I wasn't the one who made the purchase because their records indicated that a physically present card was used, which would likely mean they used already captured magnetic stripe data and forged an identical card off of that.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,980|6900|949

Jay wrote:

You really think they're eating a single penny of that? That all gets passed on to us.
thanks for explaining that to me.  I don't know how the world works so this kind of post is very informative.
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+692|6559|Washington St.
OT: All of my favorite sports teams are back to sucking. I guess I should pick up knitting or something this winter.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5626|London, England

pirana6 wrote:

OT: All of my favorite sports teams are back to sucking. I guess I should pick up knitting or something this winter.
The guy from Ax Men died. You could go join the crew
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+692|6559|Washington St.
My uncle was a logger up in BC. Told me not to do it.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5626|London, England
Long hours, hard work, shit pay and a chance of getting brained by the retard next to you. What's not to like?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+692|6559|Washington St.
The scenery
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6374|eXtreme to the maX

Jay wrote:

Long hours, hard work, shit pay and a chance of getting brained by the retard next to you. What's not to like?
That's electronics manufacturing.
Fuck Israel
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+692|6559|Washington St.
paid $300 to fix my 2-stroke johnson outboard from the 70's. It's probably worth half that.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5626|London, England
Yeah but you spent half as much as a new one costs
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+692|6559|Washington St.
I want to get one of those tiny all electric ones but I don't have a bank of thirty thousand marine batteries.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5626|London, England
A little 5 hp motor only draws 15 amps. You could run all day on a single battery
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+692|6559|Washington St.
Well there's also the issue of them being $2k
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5626|London, England
There is that, yeah
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6953|United States of America

pirana6 wrote:

paid $300 to fix my 2-stroke johnson outboard from the 70's. It's probably worth half that.
A two-stroke johnson does sound like it would save you a lot of time.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+644|3988
The worst thing about Halloween is that you have to be extra careful driving because kids are almost magnetically attracted to the front bumpers of cars.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6374|eXtreme to the maX
My sisters car and the pergola have been demolished by hail.

I was out driving in it 10km away and seemed to not get hit by the big stuff.

The sensible thing at this point would be for my sister to take my old car - which is low km and perfect condition and she drives barely 50km a week - and for me to buy something new.

So a hailstorm is likely to have cost me $15-35k depending on what I buy.

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