Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6049|Catherine Black

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Shahter wrote:

ummm... so you take one potential argument the person you in a "debate" with may choose to use, debunk it, and then... promptly tell the fucker to go "talk about vidya games".

k.
he argued that the election is rigged.  I provided a source showing that election fraud is so miniscule you'd be more likely to fall down and break your head open.  So yeah, im taking THE argument (not potential argument) and debunking it.

Can you understand that?  Are you following along, or is this the start of some "you are all brainwashed, democracy is a sham" diatribe?
Here Ken I'm afraid to say... you're brainwashed, democracy is a sham, and your country is in tatters.

I'm not 16 anymore, dude. I'm 24. I'm an adult, and I'm perfectly capable of adult conversations. So less of the dismissing and actually treat me with a bit of respect, eh?

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Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6049|Catherine Black

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Shahter wrote:

Finray wrote:


From members of the DNC themselves, yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
democracy...
Finny, go back to talking about vidya games or something.
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KEN-JENNINGS
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ah yes, the project veritas video.  Reminds me of that planned parenthood garbage.

If you're an adult capable of adult conversation, why the fuck are you rooting for Trump and linking conspiracy videos of the worst kind? You are an idiot.

My only conclusion is that you're following the alt-right circle-jerk that "woke" 20-somethings are championing on the internet.

FYI, a lesson on American politics: the vote is ALWAYS manipulated by money and action.  It's not like he's dropping stonecutter-level #TRUTHS there.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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The guy who made that video went to my college. He ran some crappy conservative newspaper after the school's 150 year old paper didn't let him post stupid bullshit. He has a felony conviction of trying to bug a senator's office while dressed as a phone repairman.
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Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7036|Moscow, Russia

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

a lesson on American politics: the vote is ALWAYS manipulated by money and action.
democracy...
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7036|Moscow, Russia

coke wrote:

Are Russian elections better by any chance or?
they are the same as yours: people get to vote on which member of the ruling class is to represent them in the parliament (or be the president, or <incert whatever other "talking head"-position you have there here>). with no means of control over those representatives once they are actually elected, of course. democracy, you know.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6049|Catherine Black

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

ah yes, the project veritas video.  Reminds me of that planned parenthood garbage.

If you're an adult capable of adult conversation, why the fuck are you rooting for Trump and linking conspiracy videos of the worst kind? You are an idiot.

My only conclusion is that you're following the alt-right circle-jerk that "woke" 20-somethings are championing on the internet.

FYI, a lesson on American politics: the vote is ALWAYS manipulated by money and action.  It's not like he's dropping stonecutter-level #TRUTHS there.
Because I don't sit and watch CNN and FOX and make my decisions from that. You cannot trust MSM, most donate to the Clinton Foundation and are biased as fuck.



Just completely wrong, it is in no way illegal to download or read any of the leaks, and the media has no special privileges regarding this.

They are trying to brainwash the average joe into not looking because THEY'VE BEEN CAUGHT.

They aren't conspiracy videos, those have actual evidence of real shit going down that is having real world effects. Scott Foval and Bob Creamer, the two people in these videos, have both "stepped down" (been fired) after these have come out.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

election fraud is so miniscule you'd be more likely to fall down and break your head open.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

the vote is ALWAYS manipulated by money and action.
That's quite a flip-flop in less than a page.

Trump wants to get into power clean out the corruption in your "democracy". Clinton wants to get into power to further increase the corruption.

Your founding fathers believed in freedom, liberty and true democracy. Your country has none of these things left.

Trump wants to reinstate them. Clinton wants to continue raping the country and people.

Where is your patriotism?
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Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6049|Catherine Black
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Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6049|Catherine Black
https://twitter.com/drewwyatt/status/78 … wsrc%5Etfw

"The ugly, divisive rhetoric we are hearing from Donald Trump and the encouragement of violence and aggression is wrong, and it's dangerous," she said
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coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6970|England. Stoke
You honestly believe half the shit Trump comes out with I mean seriously...
And that these videos on you tube aren't manipultive and bias to their own narrative...
If people are brainwashed by watching the MSM, you've been brainwashed by a couple of you tube videos.

Also Ken saying that there is little election fraud and then saying it's always influenced by money is not a "flip-flop", there's quite a large distinction between the influence and money of lobby groups and FRAUD.
Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7036|Moscow, Russia

coke wrote:

there's quite a large distinction between the influence and money of lobby groups and FRAUD.
right. so, the fuckers in power managed to sign some practices - like lobbying - into law, but didn't with some others - like hiring hooligans to sabotage public events of opponents' political campaigns. and that makes the former acceptable in a democracy?

k.

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if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+643|3980
Bernie Sanders legacy in life is that he started this rigged election narrative that undermined the election system and sabotaged the democrat party.
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KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,979|6892|949

I like that finray is now interested in politics (even though it's american politics and he is scottish scum).

I don't like that finray seems to get his ideology from the dank, trashy corners of the internet.

Trump is a bigoted piece of shit who acts like an 8 year old whenever something doesn't go his way.  He's a fucking troll who knows nothing except how to enrich himself to the detriment of everyone around him.  He's dicking over your own fucking country and you are supporting him because you get your news from some crummy castoff section of the internet.  Oh but you don't watch CNN, thank GOD!

Dummy
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6945|United States of America

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Bernie Sanders legacy in lifemy mind is that he started this rigged election narrative that undermined the election system and sabotaged the democrat party.
FTFY
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+643|3980
He has accomplished nothing in congress and spent an inordinate amount of time complaining that the DNC was rigging the primary against him. He is a narcissist who dragged on a finish primary because he liked talking in front of crowds. His bitterness continues to this day with how little he is campaigning for Clinton.


Who started complaining about Goldman Sach's speeches? Bernie.
Who started started linking Clinton with TPP every chance he got? Bernie.
Who started complaining about Clinton fundraising with wealthy donors? Bernie.
Who complained the DNC was being unfair to him? Bernie.

Bernie spent more time campaigning against DWS than he has Trump.

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coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6970|England. Stoke

Shahter wrote:

coke wrote:

there's quite a large distinction between the influence and money of lobby groups and FRAUD.
right. so, the fuckers in power managed to sign some practices - like lobbying - into law, but didn't with some others - like hiring hooligans to sabotage public events of opponents' political campaigns. and that makes the former acceptable in a democracy?

k.
No it's illegal and both sides are doing it.
This does not equate to a fixed election though does it.

Debate time mutha fuckas

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AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6413|what

Why couldn't the GOP get someone decent this election cycle? Did they have too many candidates to pick from so just landed on the populist and loudest guy in the room?
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Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6977

AussieReaper wrote:

Why couldn't the GOP get someone decent this election cycle? Did they have too many candidates to pick from so just landed on the populist and loudest guy in the room?
because they didn't rig their primaries.

trump was slowly but surely chipped away into his nomination.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6366|eXtreme to the maX

AussieReaper wrote:

Why couldn't the GOP
Why can't they do anything useful?
Fuck Israel
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
+643|3980
This Comey situation with the e-mails just proved that cross party appointments shouldn't be made by democrats. Almost all of the republican party appointments Obama made have turned on him and the democrats at some point. Robert Gates, James Comey, Jon Huntsman, Chuck Hagel. The GOP still refused to work with the administration anyway.
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AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6413|what

Well it's going to bite them now. They refused Obama's choice for the Supreme Court. And he compromised in his pick and they still refused.

I doubt Hillary will be as accommodating.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6366|eXtreme to the maX
I thought people grew out of smacktardism at about 14.
Fuck Israel
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6945|United States of America

AussieReaper wrote:

Well it's going to bite them now. They refused Obama's choice for the Supreme Court. And he compromised in his pick and they still refused.

I doubt Hillary will be as accommodating.
"The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am." - Barack Obama
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5619|London, England

SuperJail Warden wrote:

This Comey situation with the e-mails just proved that cross party appointments shouldn't be made by democrats. Almost all of the republican party appointments Obama made have turned on him and the democrats at some point. Robert Gates, James Comey, Jon Huntsman, Chuck Hagel. The GOP still refused to work with the administration anyway.
Yeah, ok. If she wasn't such a shitty person this wouldn't be happening. I think Comey is trying to do the right thing.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5619|London, England

AussieReaper wrote:

Well it's going to bite them now. They refused Obama's choice for the Supreme Court. And he compromised in his pick and they still refused.

I doubt Hillary will be as accommodating.
Obama's choice for the supreme court sucked as bad as Sotomayor does.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

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