I am not a fan of free speech for the sake of free speech if it causes significant social and material harm.
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Looking at US news is like reading a Harry Potter novel these days.uziq wrote:
https://twitter.com/hmclandress/status/827072164209770496
is this why jay loves this supreme court pick so much?
I haven't watched any Milo videos, but if your example of hate speech is equalizing scholarships between all races and sexes I'd hardly call that hate speech. To me, hate speech is talk of white privilege and reparations and wielding a distorted view of history to beat down people that had nothing to do with the issue. So no, I'm not sympathetic.
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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-Frederick Bastiat
This is a thing he does a lot so.Jay wrote:
I haven't watched any Milo videos... a distorted view of history to beat down people that had nothing to do with the issue..
Then he's wrong too. I meant more along the lines of trying to make me feel guilty because some white guy two hundred years ago killed a native American or kept slaves and the demanding I take a submissive position because of it. I'm sorry, I'll only accept guilt for my own actions.coke wrote:
This is a thing he does a lot so.Jay wrote:
I haven't watched any Milo videos... a distorted view of history to beat down people that had nothing to do with the issue..
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
jay's transformation over the last year or so has been dramatic and unsurprising. he's had his honeymoon with second-year college reading list idealism and now he's mothballing all of his blue-collar bigot attitudes in 'commonsense' and 'i'm a realist' talk.
milo is a troll who made a career out of abusing and intimidating people. he would set his vicious little 4chan/alt-right beta males onto people on twitter. the guy is vile. don't start talking about white privilege discourse being the 'real' harm here.
milo is a troll who made a career out of abusing and intimidating people. he would set his vicious little 4chan/alt-right beta males onto people on twitter. the guy is vile. don't start talking about white privilege discourse being the 'real' harm here.
who is the fuck is peddling these views? is this more of your caricature of 'progressives'? only the tiniest minority of students get vocal and protest that sort of thing. they're the same tiny minority who worshipped mao in the 50s. it's gestural student politics. have you ever been to a decent college campus? it's not full of people who are embarrassed to be white.Jay wrote:
Then he's wrong too. I meant more along the lines of trying to make me feel guilty because some white guy two hundred years ago killed a native American or kept slaves and the demanding I take a submissive position because of it. I'm sorry, I'll only accept guilt for my own actions.coke wrote:
This is a thing he does a lot so.Jay wrote:
I haven't watched any Milo videos... a distorted view of history to beat down people that had nothing to do with the issue..
According to the scholarship's website, The Privilege Grant "is available exclusively to white men" who want to pursue college "on equal footing with their female, queer and ethnic minority classmates."Jay wrote:
I haven't watched any Milo videos, but if your example of hate speech is equalizing scholarships between all races and sexes I'd hardly call that hate speech. To me, hate speech is talk of white privilege and reparations and wielding a distorted view of history to beat down people that had nothing to do with the issue. So no, I'm not sympathetic.
Are white males so badly repressed these days that such a scholarship is warranted?
To me this sound like someone who's looking to start a riot. Go to the most left wing university in the US and then argue minorities are taking advantage of the white males.
And the President threatening to remove federal funds is so incredibly wrong it's not worth getting into.
I just see it as a counterpoint to intersectional feminism and racial studies, which are just as radical and intolerant. If you're going to teach the one on campus you should allow a speech in favor of the other extreme position. They're both hate speech as far as I'm concerned.AussieReaper wrote:
According to the scholarship's website, The Privilege Grant "is available exclusively to white men" who want to pursue college "on equal footing with their female, queer and ethnic minority classmates."Jay wrote:
I haven't watched any Milo videos, but if your example of hate speech is equalizing scholarships between all races and sexes I'd hardly call that hate speech. To me, hate speech is talk of white privilege and reparations and wielding a distorted view of history to beat down people that had nothing to do with the issue. So no, I'm not sympathetic.
Are white males so badly repressed these days that such a scholarship is warranted?
To me this sound like someone who's looking to start a riot. Go to the most left wing university in the US and then argue minorities are taking advantage of the white males.
And the President threatening to remove federal funds is so incredibly wrong it's not worth getting into.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
I feel like the only reason the cancellation's even news is because Trump had a hissy fit about it. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that a university might cancel an event, even at the last minute, due to perceived danger to students and staff. And be honest with yourself, were they really missing out on much by not having him?Jay wrote:
He's provacative, yes.AussieReaper wrote:
Have you no thought on how utterly wrong his hate speech is?
I believe in free speech, even when I disagree with the message strongly. He was invited and should've been allowed to speak. The real fascists are the ones trying to silence others. Like I said, it's not a good look.
Also, how is empowerment for the statistically disadvantaged equal to reinforcement of the group on top? Oh, it's just a counterpoint? That's some revolting mental contortion.
The comments sections on these Trump flag convoy articles are so hypocritical. People who are supposedly against big government now using it as a threat of bludgeoning against liberals with opposing viewpoints.
"u scared boy? better shut up, trump's your president now." Such cancer.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t … ce=twitter
what is the actual rationale for 'focusing on our borders'? what is that code for?
what is the actual rationale for 'focusing on our borders'? what is that code for?
Really? I saw 4 articles about the riot in my news feed when I woke up this morning.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
I feel like the only reason the cancellation's even news is because Trump had a hissy fit about it. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that a university might cancel an event, even at the last minute, due to perceived danger to students and staff. And be honest with yourself, were they really missing out on much by not having him?Jay wrote:
He's provacative, yes.AussieReaper wrote:
Have you no thought on how utterly wrong his hate speech is?
I believe in free speech, even when I disagree with the message strongly. He was invited and should've been allowed to speak. The real fascists are the ones trying to silence others. Like I said, it's not a good look.
Also, how is empowerment for the statistically disadvantaged equal to reinforcement of the group on top? Oh, it's just a counterpoint? That's some revolting mental contortion.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Protecting white christIan culture from Mexicans and Muslims.uziq wrote:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-extremists-program-exclusiv-idUSKBN15G5VO?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5892aff004d3012ade6d4b39&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
what is the actual rationale for 'focusing on our borders'? what is that code for?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
good 'ole ethno-nationalism. islam is the only terror threat.
dis homo:
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thank you for using imgur guys
Yeah, it's a natural extension of the timeless philosophical paradox - "How come there's a Black History Month but not a White History Month?"Jay wrote:
I just see it as a counterpoint to intersectional feminism and racial studies, which are just as radical and intolerant. If you're going to teach the one on campus you should allow a speech in favor of the other extreme position. They're both hate speech as far as I'm concerned.AussieReaper wrote:
According to the scholarship's website, The Privilege Grant "is available exclusively to white men" who want to pursue college "on equal footing with their female, queer and ethnic minority classmates."Jay wrote:
I haven't watched any Milo videos, but if your example of hate speech is equalizing scholarships between all races and sexes I'd hardly call that hate speech. To me, hate speech is talk of white privilege and reparations and wielding a distorted view of history to beat down people that had nothing to do with the issue. So no, I'm not sympathetic.
Are white males so badly repressed these days that such a scholarship is warranted?
To me this sound like someone who's looking to start a riot. Go to the most left wing university in the US and then argue minorities are taking advantage of the white males.
And the President threatening to remove federal funds is so incredibly wrong it's not worth getting into.
What an edgy observationuziq wrote:
good 'ole ethno-nationalism. islam is the only terror threat.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
uh trump just made it official security strategy to basically ignore white nationalists and neo-nazis. lol.Jay wrote:
What an edgy observationuziq wrote:
good 'ole ethno-nationalism. islam is the only terror threat.
Also, there is a political aspect to "protect our borders", it's not straight racism. Republicans see keeping out Mexicans as keeping out future Democrat voters.uziq wrote:
uh trump just made it official security strategy to basically ignore white nationalists and neo-nazis. lol.Jay wrote:
What an edgy observationuziq wrote:
good 'ole ethno-nationalism. islam is the only terror threat.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
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Thereby guaranteeing that they will eventually vote democrat.Jay wrote:
Also, there is a political aspect to "protect our borders", it's not straight racism. Republicans see keeping out Mexicans as keeping out future Democrat voters.uziq wrote:
uh trump just made it official security strategy to basically ignore white nationalists and neo-nazis. lol.Jay wrote:
What an edgy observation
I am not sympathetic to this position. The GOP could just find a national platform that appeals to them like the Texas GOP does. But that takes effort.
They don't have to anyway. They can still win big appealing to sad people in Michigan.
It is stupid, I agree. Catholic Hispanics are conservative and should be natural republicans, but they get demonized as welfare moochers instead.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Thereby guaranteeing that they will eventually vote democrat.Jay wrote:
Also, there is a political aspect to "protect our borders", it's not straight racism. Republicans see keeping out Mexicans as keeping out future Democrat voters.uziq wrote:
uh trump just made it official security strategy to basically ignore white nationalists and neo-nazis. lol.
I am not sympathetic to this position. The GOP could just find a national platform that appeals to them like the Texas GOP does. But that takes effort.
They don't have to anyway. They can still win big appealing to sad people in Michigan.
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
hint: it's because they have dark skin
Yes, and because they're poor. Rednecks need to feel like someone else is below them on the pecking order.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat