So you wish his brother is actually dead?Jay wrote:
I'm overy it. Every post he writes is an insult. Day after day of insults. He's insulted me and he's insulted my kids. Fuck him. I'm sick of his childish nonsense.Cybargs wrote:
wow the fuck is wrong with you.Jay wrote:
Uzi, you're such a complete waste of time. I hope your brother died an extremely painful death.
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And I get perm banned for making a rape jokeJay wrote:
Uzi, you're such a complete waste of time. I hope your brother died an extremely painful death.
uziq wrote:
yes white scholarships have been cut drastically by these schemes
as if your sons are going to be scholarship material anyway ... they don't have the genetic stock.
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No, we're just not as reactionary you are and aren't as think skinned.Jay wrote:
I'm just the only one that engages him and all he does is insult me because, like a toddler, he can't stand being challenged. He rips Macbeth and mac is just like oh ok. He rips all of you and you just bow down and take it. He's not a good person. He's a shit human being who crap all over everyone in order to make himself feel better.
You behave like you are though.I'm sorry, I won't be bullied by a 90 lb weakling on the internet.
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rednecks have a fear of the federal government and the republican establishment (and now trump's cronies) will take that to pull the wool over the populace's eyes and stripmine the state. isn't it basically reaganism all over again, only now the gap between business and government is non existent?DesertFox- wrote:
On another note, in listening to the overwhemingly Republican union people at my work, it seems there is a fundamental disconnect between what they and I want from a government. They seem to have bought into the "government is the problem" mumbo-jumbo and will accept whatever is necessary to maximize take-home pay (despite making 1.5x much as me, most of them seems extraordinarily bad with money and live paycheck to paycheck). Conversely, I am much more amenable to paying higher taxes provided I see a return of government services for it.
That is my fear of a Republican majority, that they scrap government services to the point that all it provides is a bare-minimum of services and makes it as crummy as that in BFE Illinois.
How old are your co-workers? I noticed older people are much looser with their money. My father manages new car dealerships and makes good money. He spends it just as quick as he makes it though. He bought a second corvette last month. He has two corvettes now. I on the other hand save as much as I can.DesertFox- wrote:
On another note, in listening to the overwhemingly Republican union people at my work, it seems there is a fundamental disconnect between what they and I want from a government. They seem to have bought into the "government is the problem" mumbo-jumbo and will accept whatever is necessary to maximize take-home pay (despite making 1.5x much as me, most of them seems extraordinarily bad with money and live paycheck to paycheck). Conversely, I am much more amenable to paying higher taxes provided I see a return of government services for it.
That is my fear of a Republican majority, that they scrap government services to the point that all it provides is a bare-minimum of services and makes it as crummy as that in BFE Illinois.
The feds don't really provide services though. Social security, medicare, the military, these are the big ones. Your local and state governments provide most services. Unfortunately, your state is just as corrupt, indebted, and ineffective as mineDesertFox- wrote:
On another note, in listening to the overwhemingly Republican union people at my work, it seems there is a fundamental disconnect between what they and I want from a government. They seem to have bought into the "government is the problem" mumbo-jumbo and will accept whatever is necessary to maximize take-home pay (despite making 1.5x much as me, most of them seems extraordinarily bad with money and live paycheck to paycheck). Conversely, I am much more amenable to paying higher taxes provided I see a return of government services for it.
That is my fear of a Republican majority, that they scrap government services to the point that all it provides is a bare-minimum of services and makes it as crummy as that in BFE Illinois.
Aren't you two facebook friends? I can't imagine being so bitter and mean to someone who I welcomed into my real life personal lifeJay wrote:
Uzi, you lost the second you resorted to insults. To quote Trump, you're a loser and will always be a loser.
They run the gamut from early 20s to late 50s, largely, and they all pretty much can all be described as above, so it isn't generational. It's gotta be something about growing up in that area because even the young ones buy $50k trucks with rims and window tint for some reason. At a certain level it's personal, too, because my parents were always rather frugal, so my brother and I became diligent savers whereas my older sister has probably only a few thousand to her name. I wouldn't be opposed to higher pay, necessarily, but there comes a point where after you max out your IRA, dump 25% into your 401k, and paid off your loans that you end up just dumping it into savings for lack of something to spend it on.SuperJail Warden wrote:
How old are your co-workers? I noticed older people are much looser with their money. My father manages new car dealerships and makes good money. He spends it just as quick as he makes it though. He bought a second corvette last month. He has two corvettes now. I on the other hand save as much as I can.DesertFox- wrote:
On another note, in listening to the overwhemingly Republican union people at my work, it seems there is a fundamental disconnect between what they and I want from a government. They seem to have bought into the "government is the problem" mumbo-jumbo and will accept whatever is necessary to maximize take-home pay (despite making 1.5x much as me, most of them seems extraordinarily bad with money and live paycheck to paycheck). Conversely, I am much more amenable to paying higher taxes provided I see a return of government services for it.
That is my fear of a Republican majority, that they scrap government services to the point that all it provides is a bare-minimum of services and makes it as crummy as that in BFE Illinois.
I can see an argument being made that our generation who became adults during the great recession are more interested in financial security and stability than maximizing our pay. So you are happy to pay high taxes if you know there is something to fall back on meanwhile baby boomers just want to get as much as they can and spend it.
I mean, I'd like the EPA, NOAA, and so on to still exist after this year. Those all fall into what the federal government provides beyond bottom basement basic level of what constitutes a government.Jay wrote:
The feds don't really provide services though. Social security, medicare, the military, these are the big ones. Your local and state governments provide most services. Unfortunately, your state is just as corrupt, indebted, and ineffective as mine :-/
You want my $15,000/yr property tax bill? I don't even have sewers in my town. I shit into a hole in my backyard. People don't want to see their taxes increased because the money is invariably squandered or just used to pay for government employee raises or pensions. Yes, I'm bitter. So are most people. I think most people would gladly pay higher taxes if the government was actually effective.DesertFox- wrote:
They run the gamut from early 20s to late 50s, largely, and they all pretty much can all be described as above, so it isn't generational. It's gotta be something about growing up in that area because even the young ones buy $50k trucks with rims and window tint for some reason. At a certain level it's personal, too, because my parents were always rather frugal, so my brother and I became diligent savers whereas my older sister has probably only a few thousand to her name. I wouldn't be opposed to higher pay, necessarily, but there comes a point where after you max out your IRA, dump 25% into your 401k, and paid off your loans that you end up just dumping it into savings for lack of something to spend it on.SuperJail Warden wrote:
How old are your co-workers? I noticed older people are much looser with their money. My father manages new car dealerships and makes good money. He spends it just as quick as he makes it though. He bought a second corvette last month. He has two corvettes now. I on the other hand save as much as I can.DesertFox- wrote:
On another note, in listening to the overwhemingly Republican union people at my work, it seems there is a fundamental disconnect between what they and I want from a government. They seem to have bought into the "government is the problem" mumbo-jumbo and will accept whatever is necessary to maximize take-home pay (despite making 1.5x much as me, most of them seems extraordinarily bad with money and live paycheck to paycheck). Conversely, I am much more amenable to paying higher taxes provided I see a return of government services for it.
That is my fear of a Republican majority, that they scrap government services to the point that all it provides is a bare-minimum of services and makes it as crummy as that in BFE Illinois.
I can see an argument being made that our generation who became adults during the great recession are more interested in financial security and stability than maximizing our pay. So you are happy to pay high taxes if you know there is something to fall back on meanwhile baby boomers just want to get as much as they can and spend it.I mean, I'd like the EPA, NOAA, and so on to still exist after this year. Those all fall into what the federal government provides beyond bottom basement basic level of what constitutes a government.Jay wrote:
The feds don't really provide services though. Social security, medicare, the military, these are the big ones. Your local and state governments provide most services. Unfortunately, your state is just as corrupt, indebted, and ineffective as mine :-/
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See, this is the mentality I don't get after having worked some time in government.Jay wrote:
People don't want to see their taxes increased because the money is invariably squandered or just used to pay for government employee raises or pensions. Yes, I'm bitter. So are most people. I think most people would gladly pay higher taxes if the government was actually effective.
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So when are you going to quit whining and get off your ass and do something? Such as move to one of your Libertarian paradises, like Utah, or Somalia?Jay wrote:
You want my $15,000/yr property tax bill? I don't even have sewers in my town. I shit into a hole in my backyard. People don't want to see their taxes increased because the money is invariably squandered or just used to pay for government employee raises or pensions. Yes, I'm bitter. So are most people. I think most people would gladly pay higher taxes if the government was actually effective.
No, they're doing their job, protecting the environment from greedy short-termists.As for the EPA, they've overstepped their mandate and need to be reigned in some. They became an extension of the fringe environmental movement under Obama.
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jay is mad that he made a bad real estate purchase. should've checked if there was sewage. bet he cheaped out by not getting a lawyer eitheruziq wrote:
jay is unhappy with his tax bill so therefore all government tax is being squandered by useless bureaucrats and extremist eco-terrorists.
fuck i wish our government would have some fucking balls to stop the Adani mine.Jaekus wrote:
Wow, I agree with Dilbert re: EPA. This Sunday is off to an interesting start.
Lack of sewers is ubiquitous to this county. I knew it had a cesspool before I bought the property. It is just an absurdity that we have a low crime county 50 miles from Manhattan, with the highest paid cops in the country, but no sewers. Political priorities are trash.Cybargs wrote:
jay is mad that he made a bad real estate purchase. should've checked if there was sewage. bet he cheaped out by not getting a lawyer eitheruziq wrote:
jay is unhappy with his tax bill so therefore all government tax is being squandered by useless bureaucrats and extremist eco-terrorists.
ikrCybargs wrote:
fuck i wish our government would have some fucking balls to stop the Adani mine.Jaekus wrote:
Wow, I agree with Dilbert re: EPA. This Sunday is off to an interesting start.
even the fucking banks won't lend them money, now a foreign company wants our govt to foot the bill.
