that being said, I don't support the deplatforming of either milo or jones.
https://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?p … 7#p3945107Finray wrote:
I was definitely never a molyneaux'r, and I barely sided with milo on anything, but I've completely denounced him since then. dude's an idiot. I'm all about my boi Thaddeus Russell atm.
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stefan molyneux is where it's at now
If you say soFinray wrote:
Milo is over-provocative, and leans on his homosexuality way too much. His message is good but the way he goes about it is repugnant.
well played. I think I was maybe on the molyneux train for about 3 days before I realised how fucking stupid he is about stuff.
this just in: 20-something year olds are not going to be rigid in their ideology as they research it. more at 11.
this just in: 20-something year olds are not going to be rigid in their ideology as they research it. more at 11.
also, 2 years 5 months ago lol. jesus
also also: I'd like to own up and admit a lot of my past opinions were influenced by my right-wing conspiracy nut father. been on a path of deprogramming for a while now. I might have a few leftover opinions from his influence, but for the most part what I'm saying now is my own stuff.
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You sound like someone at narcotics anonymous the junkie version of alcoholics anonymous.Finray wrote:
also also: I'd like to own up and admit a lot of my past opinions were influenced by my right-wing conspiracy nut father. been on a path of deprogramming for a while now. I might have a few leftover opinions from his influence, but for the most part what I'm saying now is my own stuff.
I think a more accurate analysis would be indoctrination anonymous
Pretty hard to prevent them putting your phone in your face when you're handcuffed.Finray wrote:
still illegal for them to force you to enter a pin or use a patternSuperJail Warden wrote:
The police in America are now putting phones in the face of people they arrest to get access to their phonesDilbert_X wrote:
At a recent event I was at a girl was showing off her faceid phone, her sister - who is a few years apart and is different - was able to open it no problem.
Fuck Israel
yes... correct.. which is why you shouldn't use faceid, and use a pattern or a code dipshitDilbert_X wrote:
Pretty hard to prevent them putting your phone in your face when you're handcuffed.Finray wrote:
still illegal for them to force you to enter a pin or use a patternSuperJail Warden wrote:
The police in America are now putting phones in the face of people they arrest to get access to their phones
My phone doesn't have a code dipshit option.
Fuck Israel
what phone do you have?
yeah okay. i'm not going to use a feature on my phone that gets used 750 times a day just in case i get arrested by police with incriminating things on my phone?Finray wrote:
yes... correct.. which is why you shouldn't use faceid, and use a pattern or a code dipshitDilbert_X wrote:
Pretty hard to prevent them putting your phone in your face when you're handcuffed.Finray wrote:
still illegal for them to force you to enter a pin or use a pattern
sound reasoning. meanwhile in normal land ...
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Oh my fucking god you cannot be serious. Oh jesus christ, the sheer inconvenience that arises from taking an extra .5 seconds to swipe a pattern. Mine has 4 points and I bet I could unlock my phone in a comparable time to face id. And I can do it without even needing to look at it.
Small price to pay for privacy I guess. Sound reasoning indeed.
Small price to pay for privacy I guess. Sound reasoning indeed.
my phone has faceID and a password. sometimes i use one, sometimes the other.
it's cute you think that you have 'privacy' because of a fucking PIN on your phone. the police can download all the data and exchanges off your phone very easily, with minimal fuss. police stations are equipped with devices that can suck all of your SIM/hard-drive data right off your phone like a HL2 combine drinking up brains. they do not need a warrant in the UK. there's about 3 pieces of legislation that lets a police officer access your phone and they are given a very wide interpretation (read: chances are the cops can access your phone if they have the slightest inclination).
but yeah keep recycling tired reddit-level shit about privacy and police states as if you really have any power in the matter. my best advice to you is to not break the law and not get arrested in the first place, rather than to 'pride' yourself on your personal privacy policy. moron.
it's cute you think that you have 'privacy' because of a fucking PIN on your phone. the police can download all the data and exchanges off your phone very easily, with minimal fuss. police stations are equipped with devices that can suck all of your SIM/hard-drive data right off your phone like a HL2 combine drinking up brains. they do not need a warrant in the UK. there's about 3 pieces of legislation that lets a police officer access your phone and they are given a very wide interpretation (read: chances are the cops can access your phone if they have the slightest inclination).
but yeah keep recycling tired reddit-level shit about privacy and police states as if you really have any power in the matter. my best advice to you is to not break the law and not get arrested in the first place, rather than to 'pride' yourself on your personal privacy policy. moron.
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Lmao. This is a hypothetical argument. The law I was referring to is a US one. I don't think for a second that my phone is secure. Or my computer. I'm not dumb. But making it easy for them so I don't have to lift my finger is fucking moronic. I don't use my fingerprint scanner not because I'm under the ilusion that it'll keep my identity a secret, I don't use it because whats the fucking point? A pin or pattern is already such a non-issue to enter that why would you even put fingerprint scanners of face biometrics in a phone? It's being sold to you as a convenience when I actually suspect there's a more nefarious driving force. But like you said, or inplied, resistance is futile, which is a contributing factor as to why I obey the law. If I really had something to hide it'd be behind a 256 bit encryption, good luck getting through that before widespread adoption of quantum computing. If I was stopped in the street by some officer and they requested access to my phone, then you're gonna have to take it off me and down to the station, have it sit for a few days in a presumably large backlog, not just point it at my fucking face.
Moron.
you seem to have trouble understanding how the law works. a cop can't point a faceID scanner at you without your permission and use the contents of your phone as evidence. it's completely pointless to even do that and risk a legal prosecution, when they have the legislative and technical means to just scrape all your data legally, anyway.
as for the rest, you seem to genuinely be arguing 'what's the point?' vis-a-vis a 5-second PIN entry and a 2-second phone glance. well done. you must really be bored.
as for the rest, you seem to genuinely be arguing 'what's the point?' vis-a-vis a 5-second PIN entry and a 2-second phone glance. well done. you must really be bored.
The point is maintaining whatever control you can. The password is in my brain. Only way you're getting in short of running a backdoor is with me letting you. There's no situation where my phone gets taken off me and opened without my consent, regardless of the situation or who's doing it. And its not 5 seconds, it's at worst half a second slower than faceid. I've seen it, it's quick and amazing technology for sure, but it's not worth trading the peace of mind for the tiny tiny time/effort difference. And it's not just for police. You can't pick up my phone at a party and get in when I'm passed out by either pointing it at me or putting my finger on it. Passwords/patterns are perfect, there is literally no need to try improve on them.
That argument of "oh my phone has the capability why not use it" is so fucking weak by the way
faceID doesn’t work without attention, nobody is getting into your phone by pointing it at you at a party or whilst you’re sleeping. it’s almost ... as if ... phones have designers who have thought these things through.
‘maintaining control’ by using a phone pin? i mean everything you ever send or receive on that phone is pretty much fair game to any legal authority who would want it. what do you keep on your phone that you’re so fiercely protective of? a few dick pics and texts from a weed dealer? we are not talking about bank account security here. i am just not going to make some huge last stand about privacy over a phone lock screen. if you have a smartphone, use social media, etc, you have already forfeited 99% of your privacy already.
i take it you refuse to use contactless debit cards, too? do you pay for everything with cash to avoid the electronic trail? i take it you put privacy and security before convenience in all parts of your life?
‘maintaining control’ by using a phone pin? i mean everything you ever send or receive on that phone is pretty much fair game to any legal authority who would want it. what do you keep on your phone that you’re so fiercely protective of? a few dick pics and texts from a weed dealer? we are not talking about bank account security here. i am just not going to make some huge last stand about privacy over a phone lock screen. if you have a smartphone, use social media, etc, you have already forfeited 99% of your privacy already.
i take it you refuse to use contactless debit cards, too? do you pay for everything with cash to avoid the electronic trail? i take it you put privacy and security before convenience in all parts of your life?
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Privacy rights are important blah blah blah. I am just going to point out that there are a multitude of other easier and common ways for the government to oppress people or screw up our lives. People focusing on digital rights often miss or ignore the actual tangible ongoing problems with law enforcement people have. The government reading my Facebook messages is less of a threat to me than the traffic cop pulling people over. And if a cop has your phone and is trying to read your text, you are already fucked as it is.
yup. seems bizarre to be so suspicious of faceID, of all things. i’m going to file this under the usual sensationalism about things that ‘put my face/fingerprint/DNA on a database!!!’
benefit: minuscule
potential for abuse: incredible
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potential for abuse: incredible
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right. the potential to abuse faceID to unlock a phone is incredible. even though you literally need to have both eyes open and to be looking directly at your camera in order for it to work. keep on fighting the good fight, derp.
Okay derpDilbert_X wrote:
At a recent event I was at a girl was showing off her faceid phone, her sister - who is a few years apart and is different - was able to open it no problem.