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Federal Support Ends For Coronavirus Testing Sites As Pandemic Peak Nears 4/8
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru … peak-nears
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

What happened to American Protestantism that made them reject fundamental parts of their religion once COVID came around?

Evangelical churches across the country are fighting tooth and nail to stay open during the crisis. The Catholic Church meanwhile shut down everywhere by orders of Rome. Protestants always argued that you don't need a church to have a personal relationship with God.
Cancelled Easter is the best thing out of this. Yet my moms family is still meeting.
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SuperJail Warden
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At least Easter is a real holiday. I went to a St. Patrick's day party the day after schools closed for Armageddon.
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

What happened to American Protestantism that made them reject fundamental parts of their religion once COVID came around?

Evangelical churches across the country are fighting tooth and nail to stay open during the crisis. The Catholic Church meanwhile shut down everywhere by orders of Rome. Protestants always argued that you don't need a church to have a personal relationship with God.
If dogma-junkies don't get their weekly fix of jesus-crack they might learn to think and realise they don't need it.
That must be very scary for the church industry.
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doubtful honestly, at least for around here
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Dilbert_X
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Can't read that article either, apart from the headline.

The Western medical community, mostly the UK and the US, has worked as a closed shop, limiting the number of doctors and surgeons they're prepared to train and qualify each year to maintain their inflated incomes.
No surprise that a lot of doctors now are immigrants.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2020-04-09 18:47:12)

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I should've rented a lake house for two weeks instead of buying all this decking material. Now I have to work instead of lounging by a lake
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Apt, since South Australia literally is the cannabis-bowl of Australia.

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Just got back from the grocery store. Never ever doing that again. What a nightmare. Shortages of stuff, people all over the place. More people were in the store now than were in the store normally before Bat Armageddon. Face mask on your face feels uncomfortable. You don't want to spend too much time swapping air with the other people there so you can't take your time and pick stuff out. You just grab whatever and keep moving. No one is friendly or polite. Just mutual exhaustion.

Good side? Non whatsoever.
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it’s amazing how observant the british are in these circumstances. sure, it may be puffed up by a lot of specious ‘we survived the blitz’ rhetoric, but really people here are very quick and willing to give up things for a/the public good.

contra the ugliness, fear, and sometimes plain cruelty that pertained in so much of the brexit discourse that has settled like a fog over these islands over the last few years  ... quite a change in mood and tone.. yes, at its most extreme, the sun tabloid, who were excoriating striking hospital workers just over a year ago for ‘being self-interested traitors’ and ‘sacrificing their patients’ so that they could undermine the government, are now putting much-maligned nurses and indian doctors on their front pages, imploring the nation to ‘clap our heroes’ (the famous changeability and hypocrisies of the tabloid media notwithstanding). 

even when i’m out on my morning run in the woods, passing the odd dog walker or couple every 20 minutes, someone will  ‘give way’  and stand to let the other pass with a respectable/safe distance. people have shifted from an adversarial and conflictual mood to one of widespread care and respect almost immediately.

iit really makes you wonder about the vast irrational and instinctual substrate that evidently governs so much of everyday human behaviour and attitudes. can it not be harnessed to some lasting good and comity?
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I almost told the cashier "thank you for your service". We need to give that girl some free college.
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A tale of two New Yorks: pandemic lays bare a city's shocking inequities

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … two-cities

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Finland discovers masks bought from China not hospital-safe 4/9
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/202 … -safe.html

Two million protective masks purchased by Finland from China have turned out to be unsuitable for use in hospitals, the Finnish government admitted on Wednesday.

On Tuesday Finland's Health minister Aino-Kaisa Pekonen had tweeted a picture of the first shipment of two million surgical masks and 230,000 respirator masks being unloaded at Helsinki airport on a Finnair flight from Guangzhou in China, saying they would be "checked and tested" before use.

But by Wednesday, officials discovered that the face masks did not meet the required standards of protection against the coronavirus for use in medical environments.

"Of course this was a bit of a disappointment for us,"  health ministry permanent secretary Kirsi Varhila told a news conference.

However she said that it would be possible to use the masks in residential care facilities and for carers making home visits.

[…]

In recent weeks, Spain, the Netherlands, Turkey and Australia have returned Chinese-bought masks, leading the Chinese government to suggest that nations have not "double checked" the products before purchasing.
Indonesia was in denial over coronavirus. Now it may be facing a looming disaster 4/9
https://www.thejakartapost.com/academia … aster.html

Almost no one thinks Indonesia is handling the COVID-19 pandemic well.

Until early March, the government claimed it had no cases of infection, something the eccentric health minister, Terawan Agus Putranto, attributed to prayer. The home affairs minister urged the public to eat more bean sprouts and broccoli, while President Joko Widodo (Jokowi) sang the praises of jamu, traditional herbal remedies.

The government had been in denial. Terawan dismissed as “insulting” a report by Harvard University researchers saying Indonesia must have unreported cases. As recently as last Friday, another minister was still arguing the virus cannot survive in tropical climates.

Jokowi was apparently more concerned about the threat the virus posed to trade, investment and tourism. In February, when many countries were imposing tough travel restrictions, he planned to offer discounts of up to 30% to attract tourists. His government even allocated almost A$8 million to pay social media influencers for tourism promotions.
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I'm not confident that the Indonesian archipelago will remain politically stable or even unified for very much longer. There's been some rumbling in recent years that will undoubtedly return due to this massive government failure.
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Just got back from the grocery store. Never ever doing that again. What a nightmare. Shortages of stuff, people all over the place. More people were in the store now than were in the store normally before Bat Armageddon. Face mask on your face feels uncomfortable. You don't want to spend too much time swapping air with the other people there so you can't take your time and pick stuff out. You just grab whatever and keep moving. No one is friendly or polite. Just mutual exhaustion.

Good side? Non whatsoever.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
coke
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Trump thinks the virus is genius and smart because antibiotics can't keep up with it.
jesus fucking christ.
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Its like watching a baby throwing toys out of his cot.
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Gov. Andrew Cuomo said on Saturday that New York had about seven days to prepare for the coronavirus apex in the state, warning that “we’re not yet ready for the high point.”
“Our reading of the projections is: We are somewhere in the seven-day range,” Cumo said at a press briefing on the COVID-19 crisis. “Four, five, six, seven, eight-day range.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/04/cuomo-s … ready.html
Um yeah don't think so. Doesn't even look like its really slowing down that much.
I guess thats what you get when people who have literally no clue make policy and predictions.

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https://i.imgur.com/oNn5yhn.png

I wonder if America will wake up to the thought that having a large homeless population without access to healthcare is a hazard for everyone, never mind the ethical issues.

Macbeth wrote:

No one is friendly or polite. Just mutual exhaustion.
Everyone here is pretty relaxed and looking out for each other.
American, esp New York, culture is being exposed for what it is I guess.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2020-04-10 18:02:11)

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uziq
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jay: ‘hah! liberal cowards! it has peaked already!’

US has just put on 200,000 cases in the last week like an american puts on weight over Easter.

meanwhile trump still hasn’t enlightened himself as to the difference between a virus and a bacterium. seems he’s just about getting up to date with the scientific literature of 2005 on hospital superbugs. there’s light at the end of the tunnel!

who can be surprised that jay is utterly illiterate when it comes to virology when this is his man in the white house?

america is officially being led and propped up by a bunch of people with sub-high-school scientific education. but remember trump’s excellent credentials! he surely can swing with the big grown ups! stop being such snobs!
SuperJail Warden
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Trump is right to say we need to reopen the country. I am very bored and would like a cheeseburger.
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uziq
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it's like a bad movie. the most mismanaged and pandemic-stricken country in the world is being governed by a leader who has developed his views that 'it's just like flu' into admitting it's not like flu, but it's like a bacteria. people would snigger and roll their eyes if someone like Duterte said this in the PL.

but hey, at least he's listening to the advice from his own experts. that is, when he's not excoriating experts and rabble-rousing against ones who present views he's not compris with. better experts. expert experts.
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Larssen wrote:

I'm not confident that the Indonesian archipelago will remain politically stable or even unified for very much longer. There's been some rumbling in recent years that will undoubtedly return due to this massive government failure.
i would worry more about the eurozone/eurogroup, if i were you.

those pesky italians, spanish and greeks are going to have to suffer at the hands of their 'prudent, sensible' northern paymasters all over again!

isn't lagarde making all the right noises? europe has learned nothing.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n08 … /shockwave

very sobering stuff in this week’s LRB.

Last edited by uziq (2020-04-11 04:18:41)

Larssen
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I do worry for the eurozone but at this time consider transformation more likely than destruction. At present only a small minority of the governments in the EU are lead by fundamentally anti-EU movements. The majority, though neck deep in a tug of war over their sovereignty, are primarily rationally minded and will always choose preservation of the institution over its demise. You can expect them to force a compromise, one way or another. But yes, the intensity of the political conflict is sure to increase and deepen again in the next few years.

Only when parties who openly advocate an exit from the EU start to dominate EU politics is it time to worry. Though pro-Europeanism is fairly healthy at the moment the threat is in how the political conflict at the EU level will affect national elections. But for now, no reason to believe the sky will fall soon.

Last edited by Larssen (2020-04-11 04:24:16)

uziq
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it is an economic conflict that threatens europe, not a political one. anti-EU politics are just footsy under the table where the real change is happening. you are going to have to bail out italy and spain all over again.

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