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uziq wrote:

i mean, it gets close in the tabloids and private news stations.

there was some controversy about a biden hitpiece in the NY Post, written up by some nazi femme fatale aligned with the hardcore bannon lot. that’s textbook murdoch. i mean the signed author on the byline has a public instagram account where she’s posting with far-right figures. it’s just purely scurrilous behaviour. tantamount to spreading misinformation on the eve of an election.

the murdoch media empire undoubtedly has poisoned the world. and being a villain amongst media barons is really quite a feat. you’d be hard pressed to find a bigger pack of slime balls and fascists than the 20th century lords and barons of the british tabloids. i mean, one of them produced ghislaine maxwell ffs.

and let’s not even get started on the murdoch-blair relationship (quite literally if the rumours of infidelity are to be believed). i’m sure dilbert has plenty to get in a twist over there with all the laundering of public opinion that went on then, drumming up support for tony’s wars ...

also iirc fox’s slogan of ‘fair and balanced’ was a purposeful retort/reaction to some other news station’s messaging. might have been CNN. it’s intended as more of a ‘fuck you’.

Former UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage directly linked this Sun column with the eventual vote to leave the European Union 19 years later.

He told the documentary: “The price of Rupert Murdoch’s support for Tony Blair was that Blair promised he would not take us into the European currency without first having a referendum, and if Rupert Murdoch had not done that we would have joined the Euro in 1999 and I doubt Brexit would have happened.

“So I think when we look at the long history of Britain’s relationship with the European project that led ultimately to the Brexit vote, I think that was a decisive intervention from Rupert Murdoch.”

Revealingly, Farage also admitted he had asked Murdoch “if he wanted me to do this” documentary.

“If he’d said no I wouldn’t have done it, but he said yes do it and I think historically some of this stuff is really important.”

Asked if he believes Blair has Murdoch to thank for his 1997 victory, Wallis said: “I do really. What we did was to say to the British public this is who he is, this is what he can be. Three million newspapers a day is 10m adults reading something every day.”

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Blair went on to become godfather to one of Murdoch’s children and former Sunday Times editor Andrew Neil said the relationship between the two after New Labour gained power was “almost incestuous”.

“The line between church and state, if I can put it [that way], between press and state, became so blurred that at one stage it was quite hard to tell which was which,” Neil, whose editorship ended in 1995, said.

He said it was not just Murdoch, but his editors and senior executives who were influential on Labour policy in that period.

David Yelland, editor of the Sun between 1998 and 2003, said: “I would go and see Tony Blair quite often and would have an hour or so private meeting in his office and what I got to realise when I was editing the Sun is that the words I used in leaders were often reflected in things that Downing Street said.”

On the events leading up to the Iraq war, Neil added: “Murdoch would call regularly, he would give him [Blair] the latest information he had gleaned from Washington and the White House. He in turn would find out what Mr Blair was about, will the Labour Party be solid?

“I think it’s now been established that in the week before the land war began the Prime Minister spoke to Rupert Murdoch almost as much as he spoke to his Foreign Secretary or his Defence Secretary. That’s influence.”

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Dilbert_X wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

One of my family members ventures into Fox only to argue with conservatives in the comments section. I cannot fathom what enjoyment they derive from it. Imagine locking yourself in a room with a hundred Jays, I guess.

I'd rather be tied to a chair with my eyelids taped open in front of the awkward mukbang broadcasts that they also watch.

Very occasionally I used to venture onto gun sites to drop the odd comment and see what happened.

"Do you really think the founding fathers intended that mentally ill teenagers should have access to machine guns?" etc

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uziq wrote:

anyway.

black votes were down almost 8% in the 2016 election.

i think trump's divisive and toxic rhetoric about BLM, antifa, the 'left biden conspiracy', dismissal of AOC and co, etc, is going to seriously backfire on him.

some polls put biden ahead in georgia. georgia ffs. there are queues of pissed off black folks that stretch for 11 hours. the voter suppression thing has come right to the surface and many african-americans are greeting it as the insidious challenge to their democratic rights that it is.

biden's record on race isn't exactly flawless but i can see trump being brought down by swings in the female and black votes.

Dilbert_X wrote:

It would be nice to see the end of Trump, he was at least hard on China but I think we've all woken up now.

Still wouldn't discount the idea he could sweep back in with 238% of the vote.

Shahter wrote:

uziq wrote:

industrial war with... tiktok

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