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Imagine if there was a better way. Like electronic voting. Probably easier to recover a deleted file than a shredded box of ballots dumped into the woods.

Imagine if said better way would be really nice for people who don't want to catch a lethal virus.

I think you're on to something war man. You should open an investigation

Looks like Trump is going to win. Pretty amazing.

Trump has more votes than he got in 2016

Larssen wrote:

I bet jay will still vote trump.

Again.

trump falsely declares victory early. it’s gonna go to the postal votes.

this is really happening ahahahah

Trump, far and away the most singularly incompetent US president in living memory, still manages to pull this many votes. Not even touching on his personal 'qualities' and the non stop avalanche of controversies. I'd call it incredible if it weren't so awful.

Last edited by Larssen (2020-11-04 00:46:03)

I don't think there's a comparison to be made between Trump and anyone else. Whose self interest does he really serve besides his own? The guy is like a Mussolini light, textbook fascism. Most of his loyal base in fact voting strongly against their own interest.

Last edited by Larssen (2020-11-04 01:24:49)

there are a lot of mailed-in votes to be counted. have you not been following the news for the last 2 weeks?

a phony election is one in which only one candidate is ever feasible. in which the candidate wins 90% or 75% of the vote, with ease.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Bela … l_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Russ … l_election

even better when the 'candidates' standing for 'democratic election' are on the pedestal for their 20th year or fifth term or whatever.

a phony election is one in which even 'opposition' candidates are somehow linked to the ruling party machine, useful diversions.
https://www.dw.com/en/ksenia-sobchak-fr … a-41016022

america's election process is overwhelmingly fine. have ballots been lost? yes. will there be fraud? yes, in small amounts. is the electoral college ripe for reform and criticism? yes, certainly.

but don't get off comparing american elections to belarussian or russian elections. you are high on your own supply, my guy.

Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

there are a lot of mailed-in votes to be counted. have you not been following the news for the last 2 weeks?

Haven't they started counting some of them?

it's the biggest voting turn-out in a century. there's a lot of votes to be counted. it will take time. maybe even up to next week.

because of regulations many places couldn't start counting or looking at ballots until polls closed. how fast do you think they're counting?

this is precisely why trump has tried to come out and claim states like georgia as 'wins' for him, when a huge number of votes are still uncounted and only the on-the-day in-person votes have been tallied (which lean to republican). it sows credible doubt.

the american electoral system has hard limits on a president's term. how many times has putin rewritten the rules or used a loophole to retain power?

the american electoral system is a two-party system, yes. that has its own intrinsic problems. but russia isn't even a two-party system: there is no viable opposition. putin controls the media, he controls the press, and his opponents frequently end up dead or harrassed by the police/intelligence services. and you applaud it and encourage it. how is that remotely comparable?

the current race is too close to call. 150 million people all over a large federal republic have cast a vote and the system is being tested to its fine limits at choosing a proportionate, representative 'winner'. when's the last time anything like that happened in russia? putin got 75% of the vote in the last election, with almost zero effort, zero opposition, zero media scrutiny or calls for transparency. sealed deal. not even a hope for any change to the status quo. and you want to point and laugh at america's system?

i know russians are dealing with years of acquired/learned helplessness. it's a collective pathology. you do have my sympathies. but the american system is not comparable to the russian system, no matter how much you want it to be as shit, corrupt, and hopeless. you'll just have to keep on throwing shells from the peanut gallery and cynically applauding fascism in your own country. seems to be the best and only strategy left for you.