Georgia, PA and Alaska seem all quite likely to be for Trump. NC and Nevada are very close. Final count may have only 1-5 electoral votes between them, even though the democrats clearly win the popular vote again. This'll be fought tooth and nail and given Trump's personality he will never let go of the narrative that a Biden win with such margins is due to election tampering. Even if the margin is larger, he'll still claim it was fraudulent.
it is literally the worst case scenario at this point. what a ride.
The best candidate the Democratic Party could muster to combat Trump may only narrowly beat him.
Between a shit burger and a shit tartare, the burger just barely wins.
Between a shit burger and a shit tartare, the burger just barely wins.
Guy is so old he may even die in office.
If it has to happen hopefully it will be after the mid-terms since Harris would get the democrats killed. She would be the first sitting president to lose a primary.Larssen wrote:
Guy is so old he may even die in office.
(still can't figure out how this ended up in the pandemic thread, but it does all kind of run on doesn't it)
Couple foreign friends were losing their shit at me over, early data aside, how "close it was" and "how could you elect him again?" Like bro, you got the wrong guy. I'm from the left coast what do you want me to do.
Republicans are suing to stop vote counts in Michigan i guess.
Politics in US right now:
Couple foreign friends were losing their shit at me over, early data aside, how "close it was" and "how could you elect him again?" Like bro, you got the wrong guy. I'm from the left coast what do you want me to do.
Republicans are suing to stop vote counts in Michigan i guess.
Politics in US right now:
I could see people using: "I survived Trump, you can survive Biden" / "heth thtill yo prethident"Larssen wrote:
Georgia, PA and Alaska seem all quite likely to be for Trump. NC and Nevada are very close. Final count may have only 1-5 electoral votes between them, even though the democrats clearly win the popular vote again. This'll be fought tooth and nail and given Trump's personality he will never let go of the narrative that a Biden win with such margins is due to election tampering. Even if the margin is larger, he'll still claim it was fraudulent.
Now is the time to remember that 45% of the American population would vote for a barrel of radioactive waste if it were on the republican ticket.
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Hmm where to begin
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https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/ … 91586?s=21
lmfao.
someone else on twitter linked mccain’s concession speech back from 2008. the difference in tone and attitude is striking. members of the crowd try to boo at mention of obama and mccain shushes them. by the end of the speech theyre actually cheering.
what changed in 12 years? probably facebook.
lmfao.
someone else on twitter linked mccain’s concession speech back from 2008. the difference in tone and attitude is striking. members of the crowd try to boo at mention of obama and mccain shushes them. by the end of the speech theyre actually cheering.
what changed in 12 years? probably facebook.
It's probably important to not undercut just how enabling Trump's 2016 victory and endless pandering was to the kind of people who get mad because they aren't "allowed" to use the n-word.
Ironically he hasn't been much of an ally to them otherwise.
Ironically he hasn't been much of an ally to them otherwise.
It's annoying seeing the hot takes from people who have never been interested enough to watch or learn about the process previously and think they've stumbled across impropriety at every turn. The jackasses probably don't even know who in each state is in charge of running elections, and have no evidence beyond claims about "THE DEMOCRATS". It also doesn't help that the dangerously uninformed are also easily riled-up by such things.
The closeness of the race doesn't bode well for any chance of Republicans coming to their senses and some Kruschev-esque denunciation.
The closeness of the race doesn't bode well for any chance of Republicans coming to their senses and some Kruschev-esque denunciation.
But how can an election in a DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED state with DEMOCRAT JUDGES ever be legitimate?
Makes no sense.
Makes no sense.
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Biden has taken the lead in Georgia. He expanded his lead in Nevada but narrowed his lead in Arizona. Trump's lead in Pennsylvania is slimming with still a lot of democrat county votes to count.
The media has done a good job predicting the red mirage and Trump's preemptive call for victory. "these animals have learned something".
The media has done a good job predicting the red mirage and Trump's preemptive call for victory. "these animals have learned something".
however, once again polling was pretty massively wrong. people who were hoping for 4-5% lead and an inarguable victory have been badly found wanting. even with a democrat president you're still in for 4 years of grinding deadlock in congress.
i would have thought that the ineptitude and casual scandal of 4 years of trump would have given biden a comfortable lead. especially in this final act, with trump catching covid himself out of sheer recklessness and blurting his way through it. but nuuup. it's actually been insanely fucking close.
i would have thought that the ineptitude and casual scandal of 4 years of trump would have given biden a comfortable lead. especially in this final act, with trump catching covid himself out of sheer recklessness and blurting his way through it. but nuuup. it's actually been insanely fucking close.
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I suppose many of the polling counts just don't have enough penetration in rural, remote and/or poorer communities. OR there's a lot of people not willing to share their voting preference, disproportionately Trump voters.
In either case it just leaves you with a sense of disbelief to see so many people cheerfully egging on a pathological lying PoS to be their president. If Trump were actually competent enough or had more time, he would systematically dismantle the democracy until nothing would be left but a bureaucracy and political class consisting totally and only of people with unquestionable loyalty to him personally. Apart from the mountain of evidence pointing out the man's gross incompetence in everything, it's unbelievable to see so many people stare into a path to dictatorship and loving it.
In either case it just leaves you with a sense of disbelief to see so many people cheerfully egging on a pathological lying PoS to be their president. If Trump were actually competent enough or had more time, he would systematically dismantle the democracy until nothing would be left but a bureaucracy and political class consisting totally and only of people with unquestionable loyalty to him personally. Apart from the mountain of evidence pointing out the man's gross incompetence in everything, it's unbelievable to see so many people stare into a path to dictatorship and loving it.
Pretty hard to poll rednecks if'n they don't have phones.
And how the fuck did Britain elect Johnson?
The political classes and the plutocrats have failed the people, we need something else.
And how the fuck did Britain elect Johnson?
The political classes and the plutocrats have failed the people, we need something else.
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The people are failing themselves. In the information age it is easier than ever to inform yourself, but emotional and political preferences are strongly guiding the vast majority to consume only that which confirms their own preconceived notions and self-image.
Which Dilbert, ironically also applies to your views on race and culture...
Which Dilbert, ironically also applies to your views on race and culture...
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as i said above passim, the culprit is the new online 'information' ecology. conspiracy theory, hate speech and polarizing rhetoric are the norm. huge social media sites and 'news' aggregators like facebook have effectively been operating in the same sphere as journalism/publishing for the last decade, but without any of the laws or regulations that are applied to newspapers and news sources. they've been beholden to no one except their business model.
i seriously believe that unaccountable social media tech giants have perverted and poisoned public discourse.
i seriously believe that unaccountable social media tech giants have perverted and poisoned public discourse.
Rednecks vote red any that isn't hard to predict. Dems just don't vote.
They don't want guns taken away cause city folk can't stop shooting each other
They don't want another shutdown when there's only been 5 cases and the only person who died was 70.
They don't want california policies like banning all non electric vehicles sales by x year.
Abortion
Defunding the police
They know he's n ass and sure plenty love it but others deal with it cause theyre a one issue voter.
They don't want guns taken away cause city folk can't stop shooting each other
They don't want another shutdown when there's only been 5 cases and the only person who died was 70.
They don't want california policies like banning all non electric vehicles sales by x year.
Abortion
Defunding the police
They know he's n ass and sure plenty love it but others deal with it cause theyre a one issue voter.
Georgia has been on 99% counted for 12 hours or so