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I was going along with his outpouring of emotion until he brought up making the Muslims feel safe.

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i would have thought that a native american jewish ophthalmologist with several continents' worth of miscegenated blood would know better than to encourage and abet ethno-nationalists.

uziq wrote:

i would have thought that a native american jewish ophthalmologist with several continents' worth of miscegenated blood would know better than to encourage and abet ethno-nationalists.

If you take a DNA test, let us know if you have any leprechaun blood. You might be entitled to a pot of gold!

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

uziq wrote:

i would have thought that a native american jewish ophthalmologist with several continents' worth of miscegenated blood would know better than to encourage and abet ethno-nationalists.

If you take a DNA test, let us know if you have any leprechaun blood. You might be entitled to a pot of gold!

Wow, we just elect our only second Irish president and you are already making leprechaun jokes. Why do you hate the Irish?

uziq wrote:

https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1325154115173879814

the dawn of a new era.

Trumper there might go home to stew and cook up abduction plots, or forward "clever" 10th party Republican memes to his college student relatives. Probably something about AOC and Biden hating white men. Guessing he isn't fun to have to deal with when dinner becomes political.

And before Larssen comes in chiding indelicacy, I wonder what a blue collar's reaction would be if someone walked in on his job and asked if he was doing real or fake plumbing.

https://twitter.com/mattsheffield/statu … 93313?s=21

very good thread.

Biden is 78. I don't expect him to make it through his first term.

As democrats are having a big ol' party it's worth looking into the twitterverse to see the reactions on the other end of the spectrum. It is not pretty. I've alluded several times to the notion that there is a possibility things could escalate beyond simple tweets and angry slogans.

The good news is that the US doesn't hit the check boxes in most of the commonly recognised patterns found in countries that descend into organised violence. The bad news is that it does hit at least two: (1) a discernible strong process of othering/narcissism over the years with increased use of extremely hostile language, specifically violent language & metaphors, and (2) widespread availability of weaponry. Add to these issues a number of known extremist groups and the dynamic of left behind, monoethnic, conservative & isolated rural communities, which do provide fertile breeding ground for potential domestic terrorism.

Of course I'm not jumping the gun here and am reasonably optimistic all will remain quiet up to, throughout and beyond the transition but these factors are hard to ignore. Trump's reaction and outreach towards his fanatical base is key; if he goes out kicking and screaming, that signal will be picked up on. The transition period especially is sensitive. Disclaimer here as I can't mark this as 'likely' at all and wouldn't want to be some doomsayer (would need to research much more for a start) but it does strike me as possible some lone wolves or small groups really do act on the 'heads on pikes' and 'war' rhetoric.

I think there might be one or two Trump inspired attacks but I don't expect mass and persistent violence. I also think that it a mass casualty attack by some Trump people against perceived Biden supporters would do a lot of tire people of Trump's persistence.

Ultimately, fighting a conflict takes sacrifice that only a few people are really willing to go through with and those people are almost always losers who will inspire few others to follow in their foot steps. Give it a little awhile and you will have people claiming they never supported Trump or always thought he was bad. Then they will vote Republican again in 2024 and it will be like this whole thing never happened. Don Draper's "It will shock you how much it never happened" applies here.

re old:

Larssen wrote:

The people are failing themselves. In the information age it is easier than ever to inform yourself, but emotional and political preferences are strongly guiding the vast majority to consume only that which confirms their own preconceived notions and self-image.

Which Dilbert, ironically also applies to your views on race and culture...

Voting and politics in the US isn't always straightforward. The pamphlets are incomplete, uninformative, and sometimes wrong. The measures and such on the actual voting sheet are often ill-described and up to the ears in misleading language. If you actually want to "do a research, noob," beyond just cracking open your favorite "progressive guide" or "conservative guide," it could take the entirety of a weekend just separating the wheat from the chaff beyond what pittance you're given. I open like 150+ different links every time: articles, endorsements, guides, fulltexts, etc. I don't think that's very common here, no boast.

I would hazard that it isn't very encouraged. You're supposed to just vote on party lines alone, or people will call you an idiot.

That said, I only voted for one Republican (I think state-level).

e: It's super useful being able to vote from home. I don't have to rifle through a phonebook of garbage seeing who or what is up. I can just check my ballot and take my time.

Honestly I probably have more Irish than whatever 0.03% you've got going on from your DNA report. Haven't felt the urge to bomb anyone though. Only in video games.

I know it is in the interest of the country for Biden voters to be gracious in victory and work towards lowering the temperature but can we yell at Trump supporters on the internet at least?