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I'm more than a little concerned that this guy is a multiple NYT bestselling author and has made several films that grossed in excess of 10 mil USD.

What the fuck america?

I know they're not hollywood blockbusters. It's still a concern to see that he's taken seriously by an audience of at least a couple million people.

DesertFox- wrote:

Few conservatives seem to be taking it well. One guy bandying the "sInCe WhEn DoEs ThE mEdIa DeCiDe?" route keeps sharing screenshots from sources that haven't called Pennsylvania yet as if that proves anything. He had also shared how AOC calling to hold people accountable clearly means sending all Trump supporters to the gulag. A coworkers brother has made like $500 worth of bets with his friends about who will be president on Inauguration Day. I understand many have not been invested in an election before and lost, but the undignified, slow-motion stages of grief is secondhand embarrassing to watch.

It really is amazing, isn't it. Even people who you can normally have intelligent conversations with on other topics get swept up in the Republican misinformation and spin machine. Like you've been to college ffs, at least read between the lines. And stop falsely inflating your victimhood so much that your misery becomes real in your own head.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

Few conservatives seem to be taking it well. One guy bandying the "sInCe WhEn DoEs ThE mEdIa DeCiDe?" route keeps sharing screenshots from sources that haven't called Pennsylvania yet as if that proves anything. He had also shared how AOC calling to hold people accountable clearly means sending all Trump supporters to the gulag. A coworkers brother has made like $500 worth of bets with his friends about who will be president on Inauguration Day. I understand many have not been invested in an election before and lost, but the undignified, slow-motion stages of grief is secondhand embarrassing to watch.

It really is amazing, isn't it. Even people who you can normally have intelligent conversations with on other topics get swept up in the Republican misinformation and spin machine. Like you've been to college ffs, at least read between the lines. And stop falsely inflating your victimhood so much that your misery becomes real in your own head.

i bet jay, on the other hand, is already telling people he was ‘never a trump supporter’ and has pivoted to some niche independent candidate already.

uziq wrote:

i bet jay, on the other hand, is already telling people he was ‘never a trump supporter’ and has pivoted to some niche independent candidate already.

Has he ever come out in support of a goofy libertarian candidate, or is he a libertarian-in-name-only?

I for one am glad they booted Gary johnson from being their nominee

Last edited by RTHKI (2020-11-10 13:19:07)

Well they can keep up the charade but december 14th the electoral college votes. It should be over by then. If through some magical BS they really push it they might be able to delay and frustrate until the senate confirms the vote in january, after which the Trump administration either leaves their posts voluntarily or will have to be removed by force. Either way, this whole clown showing will last another 2 months tops.

What's worrisome is the fact that Trump will remain an overpowering voice in the republican party and he may well be there to run again 4 years from now. The poison he's spreading in the democratic system is just setting up the entire country for a moment of reckoning as well. I still can hardly believe 70 million people figured that 4 years of this incompetent narcissist wasn't enough.

Larssen wrote:

The poison he's spreading in the democratic system is just setting up the entire country for a moment of reckoning as well. I still can hardly believe 70 million people figured that 4 years of this incompetent narcissist wasn't enough.

"God isn't done with President Trump."

"Own the libs."

"Keep America Great, No More Bullsh*t!"

RTHKI wrote:

Apparently good machine operators who accept ~17/hr and maybe 80hr weeks are hard to find.

I've been at a company where people have worked odd 100hrs. The boss threw his life into it so everyone else had to as well. Came from a company where he threw his life into that as well, but having been mistreated there and then let go was a little more congenial and forgiving at his own business. Still, the man would get agitated if they left their work phone off … on time off. Not like we were a medic company or anything.

Biden has been added to the dart board of a conservative friend's place, along with other cutouts of random Dem faces he gets in flyers. He's one of the ones who styles himself an Irish Catholic (probably a big boondock saints fan), but is neither. Four years of moping are ahead for this guy.

I wrote "Irish Catholic" in small print on the Biden pic.

If Trump runs again in 2024 I wonder where all the people will be who had said Biden was too old? Also, Make America Great Again Again?

As someone who voted (mostly) Republican up until the first half of Obama's first term, it will be such a relief for me to close the chapter on Trump regardless of the people who consider me a traitor for it, or an ex-RINO convert to socialist liberalism or whatever. America is so wack sometimes.

RTHKI wrote:

twitter keeps him leashed

That would help. This regressive, authoritarian, ultra nationalist anti-intellectualism needs to be confronted. Easiest way to do it is to start regulating social media.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Biden has been added to the dart board of a conservative friend's place, along with other cutouts of random Dem faces he gets in flyers. He's one of the ones who styles himself an Irish Catholic (probably a big boondock saints fan), but is neither. Four years of moping are ahead for this guy.

I wrote "Irish Catholic" in small print on the Biden pic.

If Trump runs again in 2024 I wonder where all the people will be who had said Biden was too old? Also, Make America Great Again Again?

As someone who voted (mostly) Republican up until the first half of Obama's first term, it will be such a relief for me to close the chapter on Trump regardless of the people who consider me a traitor for it, or an ex-RINO convert to socialist liberalism or whatever. America is so wack sometimes.

I bet your friend has a bunch of sedevacantist ideas.

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Twitter is going to ban him after he leaves office. I don't think we need social media regulation.

The issue is not whether or not twitter is going to ban him, but to prevent the sway of this type of "politics" on any platform ever again.

It's infuriating that all he has to do is imply election fraud and 70% of the republican electorate becomes convinced that there must have been election fraud and that this must be thoroughly investigated. No need for reasonable doubt or any sort of proof for that matter, just keep repeating the same accusation over and over and it'll manifest itself as a truth in people's minds sooner or later. And if fraud isn't found, it must be corrupt democrat judges and politicians hiding the fraud. The longer this drags on, the more the conspiracy grows. In the meantime Trump will argue that he must remain president until 'it is conclusively proven' that there wasn't any fraud.

Now I have some faith in the US democratic systems but this is a step by step playbook approach for how countries are plunged into dictatorship. Just look at how Xi Jinping purged the entire CCP of his political opponents by trumping up (ha) corruption charges against them all. Doesn't matter if they're fake, all he has to do is make people believe it's real. Just let loose a constant barrage of conspiracies and accusations of criminality on your opponent, let social media amplify the message et voila. Machiavelli would have a field day with Trump: in this life, terrible people who don't have a moral or ethical compass are very likely to get their way.

It's naïve to think giving the state control over social media censorship will lead away from fascism and towards a Social Justice utopia. Looking over the course of American history from the 50-20's it is pretty clear that "the fundamental truths that undergird society" has changed over time.