anyway.
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But DJing takes the greatest skill and talent - according to you.uziq wrote:
song iz bad and mash-up is the lowest form of music.
Still not sure why you have to piss on everything you don't personally like as you reee away to your painful drone, its as if you have a complex of some kind.
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i've never said anywhere DJ'ing 'takes the greatest skill and talent'. i said it's different from production.
move along.
move along.
And I thought they just put records on.DJs select songs and beatmatch them together, creating transitions and interesting segues or conjunctions/disjunctions. they craft a 'narrative' using a widely curated set of music.
this is what a DJ does. notice the v a r i a t i o n and the actual human e f f o r t in mixing the songs together, ensuring they're blending, keeping them in time, cutting and reversing, etc.
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yes, is it a fundamentally different activity to producing. DJ'ing takes practice, craft, deep musical knowledge, and the ability to read a crowd.Dilbert_X wrote:
And I thought they just put records on.DJs select songs and beatmatch them together, creating transitions and interesting segues or conjunctions/disjunctions. they craft a 'narrative' using a widely curated set of music.
this is what a DJ does. notice the v a r i a t i o n and the actual human e f f o r t in mixing the songs together, ensuring they're blending, keeping them in time, cutting and reversing, etc.
where did i say it was 'the best and most difficult thing ever'?
you are so fucking asinine for a grown adult.
And producing a good mashup doesn't, OK.uziq wrote:
DJ'ing takes practice, craft, deep musical knowledge, and the ability to read a crowd.
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I love DnB for car music but I was listening to this while driving to work in snow a couple weeks back and it was bliss
Mistabishi was a DnB artist known for premixing DJ sets. Later he was dropped after he was very vocal about Trump and such. Coincidence?Dilbert_X wrote:
And producing a good mashup doesn't, OK.uziq wrote:
DJ'ing takes practice, craft, deep musical knowledge, and the ability to read a crowd.
Do QAnon have a position on mashups?
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correct.Dilbert_X wrote:
And producing a good mashup doesn't, OK.uziq wrote:
DJ'ing takes practice, craft, deep musical knowledge, and the ability to read a crowd.
do you know anything about music production? when’s the last time you opened ableton, reason or logic? go on.
you are also, once again, completely missing my point. i don’t think composing music or producing involves the same skill sets as DJ’ing. i am not saying that DJ’ing requires consummately more of the above skills. jesus fucking CHRIST learn how to read you moron.
why would someone sat in front of a computer need to know ‘how to read a crowd’? the responsive, adaptive, improvisational aspect of DJ’ing is totally irrelevant in production. likewise, DJ’s don’t spend hours tuning a kick drum or EQ’ing a snare, or humming melodies to themselves. they’re NOT THE SAME TYPE OF ACTIVITY!
the number of artists who are both great producers and DJs are very small. both take huge amounts of practice to get very good at - and they don’t necessarily lend themselves together that well. a great DJ and a great selector can essentially be an anorak who has been in record stores all his/her life, acquiring a deep knowledge; they won’t be able to sit down in a studio and compose a fucking song. likewise, some of the most gifted composers or technical producers can’t DJ, perhaps don’t even particularly have a wide knowledge of music outside of their own, or perhaps just don’t perform live very well, don’t have the practice and comfort necessary to weave together music for 3-4 hours and know how to entertain a crowd.
the fact this distinction has to be made to you, to larssen, is really not good a good look for you. these are not secretive, hieratic processes. music producers and DJ’s have had their separate roles for a very long time. both figures are at least 50 years old at this point.
‘i thought they put records on’, i think you’re rather narrowly thinking of radio DJ’s. you know, who don’t mix continuously between tracks because they have to stop
to, er, present radio. a different skill set again. nobody in this thread has been talking about radio presenters you hopeless old goon.
So why do you have a need to piss on mashups?
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i just said they’re very low effort, very unimaginative, and a gimmick. they were very popular in the 2000s. know why? because new music software was available that made it trivially easy to mash-up songs together.
it’s called a time-stretching algorithm. they became very viable and widespread tech for consumer-level laptops (and music production DAWs) in the 2000s. it is SO easy now to find two songs, have the harebrained idea to mix them together, and throw them onto two tracks in software. the software will match them in time perfectly, the algorithm will even retain their pitch and key so they don’t sound distorted (the algorithms are incredibly granular), and play them perfectly together. all a producer has to do is trim and automate some volume levels, cut a bit out here and there, et voila.
once again i’ll ask you: when’s the last time you opened music production software? let me know. this is a highly interesting argument to be having.
it’s called a time-stretching algorithm. they became very viable and widespread tech for consumer-level laptops (and music production DAWs) in the 2000s. it is SO easy now to find two songs, have the harebrained idea to mix them together, and throw them onto two tracks in software. the software will match them in time perfectly, the algorithm will even retain their pitch and key so they don’t sound distorted (the algorithms are incredibly granular), and play them perfectly together. all a producer has to do is trim and automate some volume levels, cut a bit out here and there, et voila.
once again i’ll ask you: when’s the last time you opened music production software? let me know. this is a highly interesting argument to be having.
oh look, a 10-minute tutorial from 2011.
it's almost like i know exactly what i'm talking about, and you have no FUCKING clue.
so if it takes '10-15 minutes' to do, as i said to pochsy in a post about 13 laborious, unnecessary posts ago, one would think they better be doing something strikingly bold and interesting with it, at least. there better be some pay-off, right? some point to it? oh, wait, pochsy's example mixed together the best-selling rap artist of last year with one of the most well-known electronic tunes of all time? wow, amazing. revelatory. i'm so glad this producer decided to click+drag two incredibly obvious, overplayed tunes together into a DAW. thank you sir, 10/10!
it's almost like i know exactly what i'm talking about, and you have no FUCKING clue.
so if it takes '10-15 minutes' to do, as i said to pochsy in a post about 13 laborious, unnecessary posts ago, one would think they better be doing something strikingly bold and interesting with it, at least. there better be some pay-off, right? some point to it? oh, wait, pochsy's example mixed together the best-selling rap artist of last year with one of the most well-known electronic tunes of all time? wow, amazing. revelatory. i'm so glad this producer decided to click+drag two incredibly obvious, overplayed tunes together into a DAW. thank you sir, 10/10!
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felix K and his label is some of my favourite drum n bass nowadays.RTHKI wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgER4sAhxzc
I love DnB for car music but I was listening to this while driving to work in snow a couple weeks back and it was bliss
special mention to this guy from bristol too.
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- SuperJail Warden
- Gone Forever
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I like Joy Division/New Order
i saw them live at an outdoor show in bristol pre-corona. good fun.
good movie in that video, too, a classic.
good movie in that video, too, a classic.
There was a lot of great music that came out of the post-punk scene.
mtb commented on that first youtube videouziq wrote:
felix K and his label is some of my favourite drum n bass nowadays.RTHKI wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgER4sAhxzc
I love DnB for car music but I was listening to this while driving to work in snow a couple weeks back and it was bliss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tevyQKNhKaI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f4LWQlaYlw
special mention to this guy from bristol too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmJRP5sKn0Y
yeah he was quite in the know
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I like the last one. Forgot about Instra:mental.
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And how hard is it to produce your, um,music.uziq wrote:
oh look, a 10-minute tutorial from 2011.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67SVYuxooBg
it's almost like i know exactly what i'm talking about, and you have no FUCKING clue.
so if it takes '10-15 minutes' to do, as i said to pochsy in a post about 13 laborious, unnecessary posts ago, one would think they better be doing something strikingly bold and interesting with it, at least. there better be some pay-off, right? some point to it? oh, wait, pochsy's example mixed together the best-selling rap artist of last year with one of the most well-known electronic tunes of all time? wow, amazing. revelatory. i'm so glad this producer decided to click+drag two incredibly obvious, overplayed tunes together into a DAW. thank you sir, 10/10!
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That's kind of cool though. I'd expect to hear something like it in a Tron game of the older style.