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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Yeah that really is a reason to vet your videos before you use them to promote your channel. Selling youtube subscriptions with the death of a 13 year old.

I have a lot of questions. Why was he walking around in the dark with an armed thug? How did the gun he was carrying get to that spot on the other side of the fence? Why is the footage so blurry?

Less click bait video answers some of your questions.

https://youtu.be/8dUBC0q-Gsw

The cops instantly rendered aid to the kid after he was shot which is a low bar to clear yet something a lot of cops seem to fail to do.

I know people like KJ will not be happy unless the cop goes to prison. As for me, I could live with saying the shooting was not justified but instead call it something like 'a really tragic accident'. Then pay out money to the family, and transfer or early retire the cop.

This is definitely more of a tragic accident than the lady cop from Reno 911 mistaking a glock for a taser.

That's a more useful, if still difficult video. There's stuff that's not completely clear to me. Did he still have the gun when he was shot? How did it end up over there? Did it fly out of his hand after he was shot? This comes muddled on the tarnished wake of someone in a police department recently reaffirming that "yes, we did use plants," and I couldn't tell beyond a shadow of a doubt if the thing pointed out in his hand was indeed gun.

If it was, then it's his own bad judgment for arming himself and running around with a crook at night, bad luck for running into the police, and the crook's for trying to cultivate a child soldier or whatever. I think I've proven that I'm no defender of the cops, but stuff like being in imminent danger of being stabbed, or shots already having been fired, pull it into a grey zone where you cannot put the responsibility solely on police being Violent People.

Recently Maryland police shot a white teen who had an airsoft gun and a toy knife, reported on nbc here.

Brief search for a conservative blogger's take on white kid being killed by cops here. For a good time, also check the comments.

Not a call for police procedure to be reevaluated. Just an attack on BLM and libruls.

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — Body camera video from Colorado Springs police officers shows the moments officers used a Taser on a Marine veteran in his daughter’s hospital room after refusing to hand over personal property to officers who failed to present a warrant, according to court documents.

In April of 2019, Carl Anderson Jr.’s daughter was flown to UC Health Memorial Hospital in Colorado Springs. Andersen says his fiancée accidentally hit his daughter with a vehicle while pulling out of the driveway.

“Charlotte walked into the side of the vehicle as the car was moving and got knocked over,” Andersen said.

The parents rushed to the hospital and were at their daughter’s bedside when several officers from the Colorado Springs Police Department entered the pediatrics ICU room.

Body camera video shows an officer reach toward Andersen.

“Excuse me, you cannot grab anything from my pockets,” Andersen can be heard saying in the video.

“Just give us the phone and we will be done,” an officer said.

Police were trying to confiscate the parents' phones as evidence to investigate how Charlotte was hurt.

“They never presented a warrant or any paperwork saying that they had the authority to take my personal property,” Andersen said.

During the encounter, Andersen refused to comply with police orders, and an officer steps behind him. Moments later, an officer uses a Taser on Andersen. A second Taser is deployed seconds later and officers arrest him.

David Lane, Andersen’s attorney, claims there was no reasonable suspicion or probable cause for the violent interaction.

“They were not arresting C.J. [Andersen] — they were not arresting anyone — so police have absolutely no right to demand personal property from anyone absent a warrant,” Lane said.

On July 13, 2020, Andersen filed a complaint against the City of Colorado Springs, Teller County and the officers involved in the interaction. The lawsuit claims the officers used violent force and unlawfully arrested Andersen without probable cause or suspicion that he had committed any crime while unarmed.

Andersen, a combat veteran, served in Afghanistan and says he highly respects law enforcement but feels officers crossed the line.

“One of them [officer] already had a Taser drawn and attempted to reach in my pocket to grab the cell phones,” Andersen said. “I feel anger; disappointment in the people who were supposed to be there to protect and serve us.”

He says he wants the officers involved fired and held accountable for their actions.

“What they did was wrong. They made the wrong decision,” Andersen said.

Lane says the officers involved were not disciplined for their actions.

“They need to be prosecuted,” Lane said. “A felony assault is what they did. They committed a crime, they should be doing some time.”

Andersen was charged for resisting arrest and obstructing a peace officer. Both charges were dropped.

Lane says no charges were filed against the parents for Charlotte’s injury. Charlotte made a full recovery from the accident.

Denver7 reached out to the Colorado Springs Police Department and the Teller County Sheriff’s Office. A spokesperson with each department says they can’t comment on ongoing litigation.

A spokesperson with the Colorado Springs Police Department did clarify that a complaint was not filed with the police department following the incident.